CPS and US Constitution and Declaration of Independence

[ReignBoots]

Your "friend" does have a right to free association under the 1st amendment (I believe decided by NAACP v. Alabama).

Your "friend" can associate with murderers, child rapists, and known drug dealers.

The Court or officers of the Court can determine whether the 'friends' choices present harm or potential harm to the minor child involved.

Then it comes down to your "friend's" choice.

I concur with the other posters. If you are truly a friend, and she has been warned that associating with you could have ramifications on her relationship with her child, then as her friend, you should probably get lost.

 

[cyberspook]

The legal answer is: stay the heck out of the way of CPS, and she should do exactly what they tell her to, and cross her t's and dot her i's, too. Your meddling into this is being a horrible "friend". Stay away!

I am not meddling. CPS is meddling. And I don't run away from people that are clearly wrong. I don't care if it's CPS or the Gangbangers up the street. In this case about the classification...

 

[Proserpina]

Well, it would appear that your entire premise is flawed...

http://tinyurl.com/NY-adultery


But even if that was not the case, this is not about Mom. It's really not about you.

It's about the welfare of a child who, it would appear, has a parent who is not exactly showing good judgment of late.

Oh, and you're a married marine? You might have bigger fish to fry

 

[cyberspook]

Your "friend" does have a right to free association under the 1st amendment (I believe decided by NAACP v. Alabama).

Your "friend" can associate with murderers, child rapists, and known drug dealers.

The Court or officers of the Court can determine whether the 'friends' choices present harm or potential harm to the minor child involved.

Then it comes down to your "friend's" choice.

I concur with the other posters. If you are truly a friend, and she has been warned that associating with you could have ramifications on her relationship with her child, then as her friend, you should probably get lost.

I plan on "getting lost" for a while untill I can set a clear and legal case for us to still be friends. Thank you for the precedence, that is clear legal advice. However as I said in my first post. I do not need personal advice. I can call The CONTACT help line for that..

Thank you all for your wonderful words of wisdom...

 

[LdiJ]

I plan on "getting lost" for a while untill I can set a clear and legal case for us to still be friends. Thank you for the precedence, that is clear legal advice. However as I said in my first post. I do not need personal advice. I can call The CONTACT help line for that..

Thank you all for your wonderful words of wisdom...

I am concerned that you really do not understand what kind of risk you might put your friend under. CPS has a great deal of power and can separate a parent and child for long periods of time, even when they do not really have the legal right to do so.

Standing on principles is all good and well, but if it means that your friend and her child might end up separated for a significant amount of time, its not worth it. It would be unfair to the child to stand on your principles, even if you think that the law is 100% in your favor.

 

[stealth2]

I am not meddling. CPS is meddling. And I don't run away from people that are clearly wrong. I don't care if it's CPS or the Gangbangers up the street. In this case about the classification...

It is clear that you don't really care all that much about your friend OR her kids. Just about yourself. Hopefully, she is not so foolish as to choose to stand with you rather than her kids. If she does? The kids are likely better off...

 

[DownTime]

I am not meddling. CPS is meddling. And I don't run away from people that are clearly wrong. I don't care if it's CPS or the Gangbangers up the street. In this case about the classification...

No, you are meddling, if you choose to go all grade school and see her and the kids anyway. Your opinion of the investigator is moot. Your interaction with the kids is moot. You're just a family friend.

The investigator, let's just go ahead and even call him "God", or "Mr. God", already took the kids and laid down how to get them back, yes? Until a judge says they are wrong, well...they are still God.

Once the case is resolved, you all can go back to hanging out at the monkey bars and pursuing your happiness all you want.

 

[ecmst12]

You know the declaration of independence is not a law, right?

 

[commentator]

Quote: "I don't run away from people that are clearly wrong. I don't care if it's CPS or the Gangbangers up the street."

So even if it's a police officer, or an officer of the court, this OP only plans to obey laws he agrees with. I am beginning to agree with Mr.God at CPS.

 

[Proserpina]

Quote: "I don't run away from people that are clearly wrong. I don't care if it's CPS or the Gangbangers up the street."

So even if it's a police officer, or an officer of the court, this OP only plans to obey laws he agrees with. I am beginning to agree with Mr.God at CPS.

And the really, really fun part about all of that?

It's not even his legal business!

 

[sandyclaus]

I'm thinking the fact that CPS has taken the child has everything to do with the fact that mom has allowed the abusive boyfriend to move back in, despite the fact that there is an existing order of protection against him. If the child was also a victim of that abuse, then by allowing the boyfriend back to stay, she placed her own needs above the need to protect her child.

There is no amount of happiness that outweighs the duty of a mother to protect her child. The role of a parent is not always a pleasant one, and we are all too often called to make sacrifices in our personal lives in order to protect our children.

I agree with the other posters here. Mom needs to get her priorities straight before she is allowed to get her child back. And if OP seems to think HE should be one of those priorities, then he is sadly mistaken.

 

[mustangapril]

Another Marine cheating.....surprise, surprise.

 

[Proserpina]

Another Marine cheating.....surprise, surprise.

Bitter, much?