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CCN1000

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They recommend those ages because, at least in the US, an 11 or 12 year-old is less likely to be sexually active than a 16 year-old. A teen at any age can still be be vaccinated (even if they are having sex), but it is possible that they may already have been exposed at that point. Prevention means getting them vaccinated early.

I once read a statistic that over 90% of adult women have HPV.

My teen son has been vaccinated, even though HPV doesn't affect boys the same way it affects girls. At some point, he might have a wife and maybe even daughters. If we can eliminate or significantly reduce cervical cancer with a shot, we have done our part.
Are you a Doctor? A Researcher? God?.. Your OPINIONS do not belong on legal advise forums. The correct answer to my question, is NO I am not in contempt, she IS!! I choose to take a proactive choice with my life and the life of my children. USE PROTECTION and you won't have to worry about ANY STD. I assume your children also eat at all of the fast food chains because you are to lazy to educate them on healthy eating.
 


Proserpina

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Doctors recommend brushing your teeth. Failure of mom to enforce this could, by the same logic being used here, be considered contempt of the court order. I will stand by my post. Bacteria can get into the gums and potentially cause a brain infection. This will happen at a rate much faster than the future potential of OP's daughters potentially getting cancer from one of the few strains of HPV these injections might prevent. Also noteworthy is if they already have these strains from contact, getting the shots provides no usefulness at all.


Cites please. Back up your claims.

We'll wait.
 

Proserpina

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Are you a Doctor? A Researcher? God?.. Your OPINIONS do not belong on legal advise forums. The correct answer to my question, is NO I am not in contempt, she IS!! I choose to take a proactive choice with my life and the life of my children. USE PROTECTION and you won't have to worry about ANY STD. I assume your children also eat at all of the fast food chains because you are to lazy to educate them on healthy eating.


And you think YOUR opinions do belong?

Interesting.

Q4P.
 

ecmst12

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HPV is transmitted by skin-to-skin contact, using condoms may not protect sufficiently. Getting the vaccine does not mean you don't need to use condoms as well, but it protects the skin areas that condoms don't cover.

Boys can't get cervical cancer but they can still contract and transmit the virus, which means they can give it to their partners. And either gender can get genital warts.

Using protection does NOT mean you don't have to worry about any STD. Not by a long shot. I hope you are not teaching your children that little bit of fiction.
 

OHRoadwarrior

Senior Member
Cites please. Back up your claims.

We'll wait.
You mean doctors do not recommend brushing your teeth and bacteria does not infect your gums and cannot travel to your brain? Haven't you ever been to a dentist? As soon as I start backing it up from numerous web sites, you will then claim I am promoting those web sites in violation of TOS and report me. I suggest you use a search engine.

You really don't like to admit when you are wrong Pro.
 
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TinkerBelleLuvr

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How does the court view your custody? Joint Legal? Joint Physical? You mentioned 50/50 at one point. What is the time share for the children?
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
You mean doctors do not recommend brushing your teeth and bacteria does not infect your gums and cannot travel to your brain? Haven't you ever been to a dentist?

I'm just going to Q4P.

Read your posts again. Come on - I know you can read. I know that you can comprehend.

Try.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
You mean doctors do not recommend brushing your teeth and bacteria does not infect your gums and cannot travel to your brain? Haven't you ever been to a dentist? As soon as I start backing it up from numerous web sites, you will then claim I am promoting those web sites in violation of TOS and report me. I suggest you use a search engine.

You really don't like to admit when you are wrong Pro.


Oh you edited?

Cute. :cool:
 

ecmst12

Senior Member
I have never heard of not brushing your teeth leading to an infection in the brain. The body is just not that poorly designed. The only way that *might* be possible is in a severely immunocompromised patient. You are just making stuff up.
 

OHRoadwarrior

Senior Member
I have never heard of not brushing your teeth leading to an infection in the brain. The body is just not that poorly designed. The only way that *might* be possible is in a severely immunocompromised patient. You are just making stuff up.
Blood infections from gum disease can actually kill you. That is why dentist sometimes give an antibiotic, prior to dealing with severely abscessed teeth. Don't you people go to dentists or do you not ask questions, when you do?

Here is a quick cite of the issue, I did not link the site due to TOS, but it has the authors name.

Periodontal Disease As A Risk Factor For Systemic Disease

By Laura Minsk, DMD

It is well known that periodontal (gum) diseases are a series of bacterial infections that destroy the gum tissue and bone that support the teeth. Left untreated, periodontal disease can lead to tooth loss. What is commonly not thought of is how this oral infection can also affect the rest of the body.

An infection in the mouth can affect the overall health and have serious systemic (general body) manifestations. Like other infections, the bacterial cells that cause periodontal disease, or their toxic products, can enter the blood system and affect other organs.

Research studies indicate that periodontal infections can affect the overall health and that periodontal disease is a risk factor for many health problems.
Bacteremia

Bacteremia is an infection caused by infectious organisms in the blood system. The bacteria that cause periodontal disease can enter the blood system through cuts in the gum provoked by normal chewing or brushing habits.

The bacteria can also enter the blood system directly through the infected gum tissue in a periodontal pocket. The more infected the gums are, the more likely bacteria are to enter the blood system. These bacteria can travel and infect other organs. The best way to prevent bacteremia caused by oral bacteria is by maintaining oral health.
 
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ajkroy

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Are you a Doctor? A Researcher? God?.. Your OPINIONS do not belong on legal advise forums. The correct answer to my question, is NO I am not in contempt, she IS!! I choose to take a proactive choice with my life and the life of my children. USE PROTECTION and you won't have to worry about ANY STD. I assume your children also eat at all of the fast food chains because you are to lazy to educate them on healthy eating.
I was explaining to you why the recommended age (recommended by healthcare professionals, let us not forget) is so young...but that it isn't always futile to vaccinate an older child.

In addition to this being my field of expertise, I am a parent with a child in a similar age bracket and I thought you might benefit from my perspective. You don't get to decide who responds to your threads, but your rudeness and unwarranted insults have been noted.
 

OHRoadwarrior

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Actually CCN1000, on the other side of the spectrum, "protection", meaning condoms, really are about as successful at preventing HPV and other STD transmissions as they are at preventing pregnancy. My spouse is a chemist and tested condoms for years. A few years ago, the US gov't accepted a lower standard of condom (higher failure rate) from China to be sold in the US. 1 out of 4 condoms failing, is about the accepted rate in the US. This means if you have sex with a condom 4 times, you have a good chance of possibly becoming pregnant. STD's are also transferred orally, as well as by sex organs. How many people have you ever heard that slip on a condom for oral sex. From a logical standpoint, abstaining from sex is the most likely method of avoiding STD's. The problem grows exponentially with the number of partners you or a partner of yours has had. Here is a CDC link on the subject targeting the number of people at 50% who will have an STD at some time in their life. This number could potentially be somewhat understated because the presence of genital warts caused by some forms of HPV is, too my understanding, the only way of knowing a male has come in contact with it.

http://www.cdc.gov/hpv/
 

nextwife

Senior Member
They have received all other vaccines. I do not agree with this one due to the drug not being out of clinical trials for very long. There are NO long term study data to find out if this causes any birth defects or other types of cancer related issues. I think that teaching kids that they should be preventative is better. It will not protect against other STD's, so teaching them how to protect themselves is better than teaching them, that there is a shot for everything (because there is not)
So you don't expect your daughter's to have sex when they marry? You think the rsik of possible unknown side affects are WORSE than the risk of cancer? Cervical cancer frequently KILLS.
 
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