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LdiJ

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I know the message was read at 1:11 PM yesterday LOL I saw the read stamp. We really need to be able to use OFW, but I doubt it will get ordered, so we won't use it. I'm definitely mentally prepared, myself, but the thing that, excuse my language, sucks, is kiddo won't be, but what else can I do? I can't keep her home her entire life because I'm afraid of how Dad's scenes will affect her. I mean, one of the main reasons I left was because he had us isolated. Not going to let him do that from afar.
One thing that definitely COULD happen, if you don't allow him to control you from afar and let him take you to court for doing things that are completely reasonable for you to do on your time, is that the judge could see that dad absolutely is unreasonable, and may eventually give you sole legal custody. I have seen that happen a lot.
 


not2cleverRed

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One thing that definitely COULD happen, if you don't allow him to control you from afar and let him take you to court for doing things that are completely reasonable for you to do on your time, is that the judge could see that dad absolutely is unreasonable, and may eventually give you sole legal custody. I have seen that happen a lot.
The thing is, she has to be prepared - because depending on the court, it can take years to get to that point.
 

breezymom

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Well, apparently registration is tomorrow and a week from tomorrow. Since there is limited space (especially since I am just barely above the income level), we are going tomorrow. Really, I think a couple of days would be plenty of time for him to phone the office and speak to someone, or to ask me something if need be, and respond to me.

I think I'm going to take BP's option and just not bring it up again and enroll her. It's not required, not a major educational decision over all, and if I can't place her in a flippin daycare, it's at least an option to get her daily group-setting interaction with other kids her age. I really don't see what's bad about it or what he can even argue about what's bad for her about it, aside from he would most likely say something like, "I don't want MY daughter around *those* kids," meaning any minority or lower-income type of families, which, honestly, once she's enrolled in school, he doesn't have much of a choice unless he wants her home schooled, especially with the way our district will shortly be combining schools.

And I know once I hit submit on this post, I'm going to re-read it and think what a butt I sound like and how unfair it sounds, but really, lately I've been going with more immediate, logical thoughts about what's best for her, not what's best for him and/or to keep the peace, especially since keeping the peace is utterly impossible with someone who can only agree on disagreeing.

I'm sure he'll get his way when we go to court, anyway. If I sound sour, it's because court is in less than three weeks and my faith anymore is exceedingly low after everything that's gone on. I damn myself constantly for allowing myself to be manipulated and controlled but I also know this amazing little one would be an entirely different person if I'd never gotten pregnant with him. I could never be more proud of our kiddo or feel the love for anyone in my life as much as I do for her, and not a day goes by when I don't tell and show her so.

And no, I honestly can't see the sole legal coming through, even after the day when he will probably be escorted off school property for one of his famous scenes that I'm sure, according to him, he didn't make.

So sorry for sounding so bitter, but sometimes it just has to come out.
 

tuffbrk

Senior Member
Awww Breezy....I can't stand to "see" you so disheartened. You gotta hang in there and try your best to keep positive. Giving up gives him the upper hand and frankly, he doesn't deserve that satisfaction. You left, you moved on, you've stood up for yourself, you stand up for the lil one - feeling down and blue and bitter about Family court is absolutely understandable. I hope you can keep the bitterness to a minimum though. Otherwise, your ex truly does win. And you're the winner, not him. Don't ever forget that.
 

breezymom

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Awww Breezy....I can't stand to "see" you so disheartened. You gotta hang in there and try your best to keep positive. Giving up gives him the upper hand and frankly, he doesn't deserve that satisfaction. You left, you moved on, you've stood up for yourself, you stand up for the lil one - feeling down and blue and bitter about Family court is absolutely understandable. I hope you can keep the bitterness to a minimum though. Otherwise, your ex truly does win. And you're the winner, not him. Don't ever forget that.
Sorry...it was just a venting night last night and I'd never stop standing up for kiddo, aside from what the court won't allow me to do for her. I feel trapped, somewhat, by the system. Going back 5 times for the same petition because of mainly his rambling and him being allowed to testify when he is supposed to be testifying witnesses, along with it being forgotten that the last date was our day certain...it's nuts. Why we can't just do what we're supposed to do when we're supposed to do it is beyond me, but then again, I'm a rules follower and I like just getting to the point. Part of the problem is that choosing the most important erratic behaviors to prove a pattern still leaves far too much reading for the judge because there were SO many things. And with each situation, of course, he was the victim or it didn't happen, according to him. I just can't fathom anyone believing that so many occurrences were everyone else's fault.
 

LdiJ

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Sorry...it was just a venting night last night and I'd never stop standing up for kiddo, aside from what the court won't allow me to do for her. I feel trapped, somewhat, by the system. Going back 5 times for the same petition because of mainly his rambling and him being allowed to testify when he is supposed to be testifying witnesses, along with it being forgotten that the last date was our day certain...it's nuts. Why we can't just do what we're supposed to do when we're supposed to do it is beyond me, but then again, I'm a rules follower and I like just getting to the point. Part of the problem is that choosing the most important erratic behaviors to prove a pattern still leaves far too much reading for the judge because there were SO many things. And with each situation, of course, he was the victim or it didn't happen, according to him. I just can't fathom anyone believing that so many occurrences were everyone else's fault.
Unfortunately there are a large number of people in the world who are like that. Sometimes its learned behavior because one of their parents was either that way or indulged them to the point that they never learned "cause and effect", and sometimes they are just wired wrong. Children need real consequences for their actions so that they grasp the concept of cause and effect. Adults need real consequences too. Unfortunately family law is not designed to deal with people like your ex...at least not in the short term.
 

breezymom

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Long story short: Kiddo left with no bruise on her back last Monday (Neighbor as a witness, since she had to take her to the potty right before the exchange on the 14th).

Kiddo came home with a weird bruise on her back from Dad's.


I took a photo of it because I knew Dad would start making accusations if it weren't gone when she went back.

Dad said nothing about the bruise. I figured Kiddo just fell or got it doing a summersault or during WWE play with Daddy that she keeps trying to engage my parents and I in.

Dad was rather annoyed dropping Kiddo off two weeks ago, but did not say why.

A couple days later when I was trying to get Kiddo to poop on the potty, she tells me, "Daddy won't let me poopy on the potty. He doesn't like me anymore. I spit on him."


So I had a chat with Kiddo about how it's disrespectful to spit on people and how it spreads germs. I figured that was why he was annoyed. Sunday of this week and today Kiddo repeated the same thing, exactly the same wording to me. I don't understand what one thing has to do with the other or why she is saying it.


Dad was a no-show that following Saturday with no word for an hour after pick up.

The bruise started out kind of light, so the photo is not the best. Over the period of the two weeks, the bruise got darker and was shaped as if she fell against a coil or something.


I just kind of kept an eye on it. It has not gone away, still, as of today.


Dad rambled through about three different topics and changed this weekend's visitation.


Then I told him I had a chat with Kiddo (trying to show him I'm CO-parenting with him) about the fact that she said she spit on him. He said it never happened. He then said he didn't remember that. He then said something else about it not happening and went straight into the "not a big deal" bruise on her back.


And I had said yes, I noticed it and had documented it since she left without one and returned with one and said I figured she just fell against something. He tried to say it came from here and he said "WE are documenting it also." I'm not sure who "we" is, whether it's his mother or his girlfriend and him or all three.

He then says, TO Kiddo, "I'm sorry I know you want to stay with Daddy, but you can't. This ends soon." Then he mumbled something out the door.



I called pediatrics and brought Kiddo in so they could look at the bruise. I let them talk to her. They will be speaking with CPS. I'm not sure anything will come of it but I gave them most of the information above in another room away from Kiddo's ears.


Trying to weave that together so that it made a semblance of sense was hard, so I apologize. I don't get half of what he muttered about today, aside from the playing with our child's mind before he left.

Not sure what fun is coming up, but am sure I will post with a question or two.
 
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BL

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Long story short: Kiddo left with no bruise on her back last Monday (Neighbor as a witness, since she had to take her to the potty right before the exchange on the 14th).

Kiddo came home with a weird bruise on her back. I took a photo of it after we went and visited my neighbor once I picked up Kiddo. my neighbor also saw the bruise Kiddo returned home with. I had told my neighbor I was going to take a photo of it because I knew Dad would start making accusations. Dad said nothing about the bruise. I figured Kiddo just fell or got it doing a summersault or during WWE play with Daddy that she keeps trying to engage my parents and I in.

Dad was rather annoyed dropping Kiddo off two weeks ago, but did not say why.

A couple days later when I was trying to get Kiddo to poop on the potty, she tells me, "Daddy won't let me poopy on the potty. He doesn't like me anymore. I spit on him." So I had a chat with Kiddo about how it's disrespectful to spit on people and how it spreads germs. I figured that was why he was annoyed. Sunday of this week, Kiddo repeated the same thing, exactly the same wording to me. Kiddo also repeated the same thing today, at the doctors, to me after asking me for a pullup to poop in when I told her that I would much rather she went poopy on the potty. Three times over a couple of weeks, she's said the same exact thing. I'm not gathering how one correlates with the other, but that's what she keeps repeating.

Dad, first of all, had a summer cold and couldn't make it to the doctors' appointment, he told me an hour before the appointment.

That following Saturday after her over night was supposed to be the day visit. I even phoned Dad, since I knew he had power when I had seen he had been on facebook, and left a message because he hadn't answered the phone just making sure things were already after the storm and if he were going to pick up our daughter. I had checked it on my phone to see if he was going to try and reschedule because of the storm, but no messages. my neighbor had Kiddo at 9 AM and I picked her up at about 9:20 AM. Dad sent me a message at 10 AM, on Facebook, telling me he's sorry but he had a horrible eye infection, and that's why he wasn't picking her up.

The bruise started out kind of light, so the photo is not the best. Over the period of the two weeks, the bruise got darker and was shaped as if she fell against a coil or something. I just kind of kept an eye on it. It has not gone away, still, as of today. When Dad dropped off Kiddo today, he said, he would be talking with his sister about the "school situation" for Kiddo, then rambled into he had gotten an RV and was taking her sister on Saturday to the races in on a trip, asking if we could switch Kiddo's visit to Monday, instead, to which I agreed. Then I told him I had a chat with Kiddo (trying to show him I'm CO-parenting with him) about the fact that she said she spit on him. He said it never happened. He then said he didn't remember that. He then said something else about it not happening and went straight into the "not a big deal" bruise on her back. And I had said yes, I noticed it and had documented it since she left without one and returned with one and said I figured she just fell against something. He tried to say it came from here and he said "WE are documenting it also." I'm not sure who "we" is, whether it's his mother or his girlfriend and him or all three.

He then says, TO Kiddo, "I'm sorry I know you want to stay with Daddy, but you can't. This ends soon." Then he mumbled something out the door.

The "school situation" to which he is referring has to do with I asked him how he felt about her attending head start, possibly. I gave him all the information. He said nothing about it until today. I did the intake paperwork and she may not even get in due to the fact that I probably make too much. I told him she did not have to attend on the days she is with him. I am unsure he knows it is not formal schooling. I am unsure he even read what I sent him. I waited for his reply but got nothing until today. I am quite unsure what he feels he needs to discuss with his sister about our child's education and what control he thinks he may have over what school she attends, since by the time she actually does go to preschool, I am guessing the schools will be combined and there won't BE much choice. But we aren't even to that point. This was just something extra I thought would be good for her on the time when she is with me, but I thought I would include him.

He has yet to make an appointment with kiddo's therapist.

I called pediatrics and brought Kiddo in so they could look at the bruise. I let them talk to her. They will be speaking with CPS. I'm not sure anything will come of it but I gave them most of the information above in another room away from Kiddo's ears.

Trying to weave that together so that it made a semblance of sense was hard, so I apologize. I don't get half of what he muttered about today, aside from the playing with our child's mind before he left.

Not sure what fun is coming up, but am sure I will post with a question or two.
I read the first 2 sentences.

Ya want a sociaol site,find one. Ya want to PM members ,fine.

WHHAHHHHHH !!!!! Lylal.
 

breezymom

Member
I read the first 2 sentences.

Ya want a sociaol site,find one. Ya want to PM members ,fine.

WHHAHHHHHH !!!!! Lylal.
Really, I am unsure what the issue is here. If you don't wish to read it, that's your choice. You are a volunteer. Yes it is long. Those who know my history well know that's the way it goes with my ex: feast or famine.

No, I don't want a social site. That was a prep because I know that if CPS gets involved, I will have legal questions to go along with that.

But, really, I've never been snarky to anyone here, so I'm not sure why I got that response. Really. You don't have to read it, but I thank you for your reply.
 

BL

Senior Member
Really, I am unsure what the issue is here. If you don't wish to read it, that's your choice. You are a volunteer. Yes it is long. Those who know my history well know that's the way it goes with my ex: feast or famine.

No, I don't want a social site. That was a prep because I know that if CPS gets involved, I will have legal questions to go along with that.

But, really, I've never been snarky to anyone here, so I'm not sure why I got that response. Really. You don't have to read it, but I thank you for your reply.
And ??? With legal issues , one does repeatidy rant ,but keeps legally as breif as possible and to the legal points.Who cares about HX. I do not.
 

breezymom

Member
And ??? With legal issues , one does repeatidy rant ,but keeps legally as breif as possible and to the legal points.Who cares about HX. I do not.
Legal issues I am unsure how to handle:


Again, Dad publicly telling our child she won't be living with her mother very long and telling her that she wants to live with him.

Witness saying no bruise before she went two weeks ago. Dated photo of bruise when she returned.

Dad saying bruise was there before she came.

Dad highly annoyed at the world dropping off Kiddo, not mentioning a bruise, nor kiddo spitting on him.

Bruise still there.

Kid repeatedly saying Dad won't let her have a bowel movement in the toilet because she spit on him.

I tried to coparent and discussed with Kiddo why not to spit on people. Dad tells me it never happened three times all in different ways.

I took her to the doctor to document the bruise.

Doctor is calling CPS.
 

BL

Senior Member
Legal issues I am unsure how to handle:


Again, Dad publicly telling our child she won't be living with her mother very long and telling her that she wants to live with him.

Witness saying no bruise before she went two weeks ago. Dated photo of bruise when she returned.

Dad saying bruise was there before she came.

Dad highly annoyed at the world dropping off Kiddo, not mentioning a bruise, nor kiddo spitting on him.

Bruise still there.

Kid repeatedly saying Dad won't let her have a bowel movement in the toilet because she spit on him.

I tried to coparent and discussed with Kiddo why not to spit on people. Dad tells me it never happened three times all in different ways.

I took her to the doctor to document the bruise.

Doctor is calling CPS.
And. ?


Please. The beaaze may turn in to a storm against YOU. Your post post of amonomosisity ,not legally.
 

breezymom

Member
And. ?


Please. The beaaze may turn in to a storm against YOU. Your post post of amonomosisity ,not legally.
Ok nevermind. CPS getting involved isn't legal.

Violating the part of the court order that says, "Neither parent shall speak disparagingly about the other parent," isn't legal.

Violating the part of the court order that says, "Communication between both parties should only concern the child," isn't legal.
 
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