Is this a threat?

[OHRoadwarrior]

If you are truly as intelligent as you claim, you would not be in this situation. If your probation officer were the only one not thinking the charge bogus, what prompted them to go into your school, interpret your statement, process you as principal, convict you as judge, then go back to their probation office, to make you report?

 

[eerelations]

A person can talk about whatever they want, that doesn't make them threatening simply because they did.

You are being extremely naive. Considering you're just a kid, I guess that shouldn't be a surprise.

Bottom line is, nothing illegal or even unethical has been done to you. Ergo, you have no legal recourse. And someday when you're a grownup, you'll understand this.

 

[Britanian11]

Your snotty attitude and laughably inflated sense of entitlement is only part of your problem.

My inflated sense of entitlement? How do I have an inflated sense of entitlement, I DID NOT commit a crime, therefore I should not have been placed on probation. What the school does is what the school does, but trying to tell me that I broke the law is another level. If YOU were placed in a circumstance where you did not commit a crime, but the law insists that you did, you would be a little more than agitated as well.

As for the snooping, I was just using that word to prove a point. She had no reason to be going through my files.

I can handle the school and their silly policies, like I have in the past for various reasons. But I am fighting a brick wall right now since they somehow believe what I said constitutes as a threat, it doesn't and that is why I am so frustrated. What I said did not even imply a threat toward the individual, and does not fit the description of a threat.

The other reason I am so frustrated is that ACTUAL crimes are committed daily and people get away with it. Chavis Carter case anyone?

 

[Silverplum]

My inflated sense of entitlement? How do I have an inflated sense of entitlement, I DID NOT commit a crime, therefore I should not have been placed on probation. What the school does is what the school does, but trying to tell me that I broke the law is another level. If YOU were placed in a circumstance where you did not commit a crime, but the law insists that you did, you would be a little more than agitated as well.

As for the snooping, I was just using that word to prove a point. She had no reason to be going through my files.

I can handle the school and their silly policies, like I have in the past for various reasons. But I am fighting a brick wall right now since they somehow believe what I said constitutes as a threat, it doesn't and that is why I am so frustrated. What I said did not even imply a threat toward the individual, and does not fit the description of a threat.

The other reason I am so frustrated is that ACTUAL crimes are committed daily and people get away with it. Chavis Carter case anyone?

I see you have learned nothing.

No one is interested in your Sad Tale Of Woe.

 

[Britanian11]

I see you have learned nothing.

No one is interested in your Sad Tale Of Woe.

No, I haven't learned anything because I don't understand what your getting at. Unless your trying to tell me that these people can do whatever they want just because they are adults, then I really don't understand what your point is. I haven't committed a crime, yet I am being treated as if I have. Who would not be upset by this? Are you trying to tell me that it doesn't matter if I committed a crime, they don't need a reason? That's bull****.

 

[Silverplum]

No, I haven't learned anything because I don't understand what your getting at. Unless your trying to tell me that these people can do whatever they want just because they are adults, then I really don't understand what your point is. I haven't committed a crime, yet I am being treated as if I have. Who would not be upset by this? Are you trying to tell me that it doesn't matter if I committed a crime, they don't need a reason? That's bull****.

No, you haven't learned anything because you haven't done the reading I assigned.

You haven't learned anything because your overinflated self doesn't think there is anything to learn.

Therefore, I won't bother with you. I don't waste my time on foolish children.

 

[Britanian11]

You say I'm the one with the overinflated self, but your just being a dick. No, I haven't read those reports but I can infer what they are about and why you want me to read them. If the teacher would have just said something, maybe the shooting wouldn't of happened. Boo-hoo.

How about instead of expecting me to learn a lesson from this situation, when there isn't one to learn you just tell me what your point is. Furthermore, don't call me a foolish child. I'm 17, and am not foolish. I simply know that I have no broken the law therefore I am being treated unfairly. That was my question in the first place, but this has derailed into you guys treating me like an idiot. Maybe when someone puts you in a situation like this, you'll understand.

 

[Silverplum]

You say I'm the one with the overinflated self, but your just being a dick.

Your writing is quite poor. Tone down your ego till you have something about which to be proud.

No, I haven't read those reports but I can infer what they are about and why you want me to read them. If the teacher would have just said something, maybe the shooting wouldn't of happened. Boo-hoo.

More poor writing. Tsk, tsk.

How about instead of expecting me to learn a lesson from this situation, when there isn't one to learn you just tell me what your point is.

Are you sure you even WENT to hi-skool?

Furthermore, don't call me a foolish child. I'm 17, and am not foolish.

That's for me ~ and other grownups ~ to judge, and it's easy as pie to see that you are, indeed, foolish.

I simply know that I have no broken the law therefore I am being treated unfairly.

FAILURE to read.
FAILURE to grasp what is written.
Tsk!

That was my question in the first place, but this has derailed into you guys treating me like an idiot. Maybe when someone puts you in a situation like this, you'll understand.

Stupid is, as stupid does.

Forrest Gump could catch a point more quickly than you, son. That's a shame.

 

[Britanian11]

I'm not sure why you think my writing is "quite poor", but that seems to a trend on the internet. Most people on the internet share that opinion, but none of my teachers point out why it is so poor. If it has something to do with "over inflated-self" I was simply quoting you, so I'm not what the problem here is. And the "hi-skool" thing was uncalled for. I read that sentence, and clearly I may be biased, but I don't see what makes my writing so poor to you. It is has anything to do with commas, then fine. I do use them a lot but that's just because of the way I speak.

I have read every post here, and all that I have gathered is that what I said does not meet the definition of a terroristic threat, but none of you seem to care. And don't call me stupid. I've always been in the top percentage of my schools, and if you think that I'm stupid you would certainly hate to see the rest of my school where some people can't even spell "bathroom". I haven't insulted you, and I don't why you feel the need to insult me, especially when you know nothing about me besides what I have written here.

Maybe Gump would grasp the point more easily than me, but I'm doing my damnedest to understand how you, or anyone else for that matter can think I am guilty of a crime. The only point I'm grasping so far is that you don't care if I broke the law or not.

 

[Eekamouse]

I live in Pennsylvania, for reference. Anyway, about 8 months ago I was talking with my Chem teacher at Lunch as I usually do. She asked me, after discussing my comments that "A school slashing would be more creative than a school shooting", if there was anyone I wanted dead. I named an individual that I did not like, but not really wanted dead, because it was the first name to come to mind.

Well, to cut it short this eventually lead to me being put on probation for the charge of "terroristic threats", and I insist that I have not committed a crime and everyone except my probation officer seems to agree with me. I assume that those of you here know a little bit more about the law than I do, and you will find that I am being treated unfairly. In fact, I was talking to a girl who was also on probation and she told me she was there for "harassment" after "going on Facebook and threatening to kill another girl and her entire family."

I am 17, am of mixed ethnicity have no history of drugs or violence or anything criminal, I am a good student and am extremely intelligent. Have I committed a crime, or is the law being stretched as far as it can possibly be stretched for the sake of stretching it?

Thanks.

So you don't see what you told your teacher as being a threat? Are you really that obtuse? Or just incredibly arrogant and dumb? And exactly how is it that a chem teacher was discussing with you your comments that a school slashing would be more creative than a school shooting? Was that in answer to one of your chem test questions? No? Then what were you two talking about that led up to your ridiculous statement?

 

[Britanian11]

So you don't see what you told your teacher as being a threat? Are you really that obtuse? Or just incredibly arrogant and dumb? And exactly how is it that a chem teacher was discussing with you your comments that a school slashing would be more creative than a school shooting? Was that in answer to one of your chem test questions? No? Then what were you two talking about that led up to your ridiculous statement?

No, I really don't believe what I said constitutes a threat. If I believed that what I did was wrong, why would I do it ad why would I be here looking for people who share my opinion? As for why we were talking about it, I was talking to my friend and it got a little loud. When people asked me what I was talking about I explained it would be more creative because it (to my knowledge) had never been done. The reason I can talk about these things is because a) I have no intention of carrying them out and b) I don't believe them to be a big deal.

 

[Zigner]

If I believed that what I did was wrong, why would I do it...

Because that's what foolish children do.

 

[Britanian11]

Because that's what foolish children do.

I am far beyond most people in my school in terms of maturity and intelligence. That is not my inflated ego, everyone who knows me will tell you that including my teachers and principals. And they tell me I'm a lot more intelligent than I think I am because I have low self-esteem. I'm not in and out of rehab for drugs, and I'm not going out to get wasted every Friday night. Believe what you will, but I did not say what I said because I believed it would cause me trouble.

 

[>Charlotte<]

No, I really don't believe what I said constitutes a threat.

In today's climate of ubiquitous school and workplace violence, if you truly don't understand that stating an opinion that a school slashing is better than a shooting, and then specifically naming someone "you want dead", you have issues that an Internet forum can't help.

Whether or not you can accept that your comments set off the correct red flags, the school and the courts are handling this appropriately and you are not going to find any legal recourse to get you out of this. If you want to keep whining that you're being treated unfairly, go right ahead. Doesn't change the facts.

I never threatened him, all I did was say that I wanted him dead.

You need psychiatric treatment.

 

[>Charlotte<]

I'm curious. What is your parents' opinion of this? Do they agree with you?