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Proserpina

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agreed, proving may be difficult however she was with other people and that can be proven, as well as her decision to "see" other people.

we were married in march of 2009. we were "together" as i percieved for a few years earlier.

she decided to see other people in July 2011 a week after we "separated". and by separated i mean her saying, " i wanna see other people".

her status is i think, temp gc. on lies of course. she went to her friends to acquire affidavits to "prove" her marriage is legit.

thank you for replying


The bad news:

Fraud is not an option here. You were married for over two years, and even though she started "stepping" out on the marriage shortly thereafter, so do many other unhappy people.

Her conditional gc is not based on lies from what you've said. Not provable, anyway. So again, forget that route. And it wasn't "her" marriage - it was "YOUR" marriage too and as such, those affidavits were obtained on your behalf too. You benefited from those.

Before I go further could you answer the other questions please?

As in, what exactly you filed? Did you attend the interview together?
 


stealth2

Under the Radar Member
another question, and i hope it is not silly or out of legal scope; we adopted a dog together and i wish to retain full cistody of her, is this an issue i need to be concerned about?
Custody is about children, not pets. Pets are a property issue. Offer your wife something else in exchange for keeping the dog.
 

plasma boy

Junior Member
getting more confused

The bad news:

Fraud is not an option here. You were married for over two years, and even though she started "stepping" out on the marriage shortly thereafter, so do many other unhappy people.

Her conditional gc is not based on lies from what you've said. Not provable, anyway. So again, forget that route. And it wasn't "her" marriage - it was "YOUR" marriage too and as such, those affidavits were obtained on your behalf too. You benefited from those.

Before I go further could you answer the other questions please?

As in, what exactly you filed? Did you attend the interview together?
why is fraud not an option when that is exactly what it seems to be?
we did go to the interview together.
"stepping" out, as you put it, wasn't part of the agreement. i agreed to be faithful and stick around. she only concerns herself about herself.
i benifited? sorry, but i do not see how. in any way. quite the contrary actually. quite the contrary.
 

plasma boy

Junior Member
Custody is about children, not pets. Pets are a property issue. Offer your wife something else in exchange for keeping the dog.
you are kidding right?
offer her something else? what like an anurism?
i paid for everyting in the relationship. i will not be offereing her anything for my dog, that i paid for and support.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
you are kidding right?
offer her something else? what like an anurism?
i paid for everyting in the relationship. i will not be offereing her anything for my dog, that i paid for and support.
Are you in for an awakening at court. Your wife is entitled to HALF the marital assets (anything accrued since the date of marriage until the date of divorce) and half the debt.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
why is fraud not an option when that is exactly what it seems to be?
You were together for several years before being married and you were married for over two years. She was (as far as you know) faithful until a week AFTER the separation. This is not fraud...this is simply a failed marriage.
 

plasma boy

Junior Member
You were together for several years before being married and you were married for over two years. She was (as far as you know) faithful until a week AFTER the separation. This is not fraud...this is simply a failed marriage.
there was no "separation".
she just started seeing other people.

yes, perhaps i am in for a rude awakening, i haven't experienced anything like this, which i why i promised i would never get married in the first place. but she said it was the only way she could remain stateside, so i caved.
yes, as soon as she got her job and gc renewed, she started being unfaithful. and how is that not a violation of vows?
it seems i was correct, no intelligent reason what so ever, for a man to get married, as you are all proving that to be the case.

i married her to be with her, not so she get papers and jam.

:(
 

plasma boy

Junior Member
You were together for several years before being married and you were married for over two years. She was (as far as you know) faithful until a week AFTER the separation. This is not fraud...this is simply a failed marriage.
this not 'simply a failed marriage'. sorry zinger, that is far from what it is.
it is a successful endeavor for her, as she got what she wanted.
a failed venture for me, as i am not with the person i wanted to be with, but married to her and she is with other people.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
this not 'simply a failed marriage'. sorry zinger, that is far from what it is.
it is a successful endeavor for her, as she got what she wanted.
a failed venture for me, as i am not with the person i wanted to be with, but married to her and she is with other people.
Maybe she's just not that in to you any more...do a Google search for the percentage of successful marriages and you will see that your situation (a failed marriage) is far from unique.
 

plasma boy

Junior Member
Maybe she's just not that in to you any more...do a Google search for the percentage of successful marriages and you will see that your situation (a failed marriage) is far from unique.
i am quite aware of marriage statistics, and still wonder why people marry in the first place.
she may not be into me any more as you put it, but are we now choosing when we law applies arbitrarily?
so, is cheating illegal?
is convincing someone into marrying another for documents appropriate?
is remaining married to them soley to gain citizenship all good in your eyes?
 
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Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
li am quite aware of marriage statistics, and still wonder why people marry in the first place.
she may not be into me any more as you put it, but are we now choosing when we law applies arbitrarily?
so, is cheating illegal?
is convincing someone into marrying another for documents appropriate?
is remaining married to them soley to gain citizenship all good in your eyes?
You were with the gal for over 5 years and married for over 2 of those years. It does not appear to be a fraudulent marriage. One would need to PROVE that it was, and you haven't been very successful in proving that here...
 

plasma boy

Junior Member
You were with the gal for over 5 years and married for over 2 of those years. It does not appear to be a fraudulent marriage. One would need to PROVE that it was, and you haven't been very successful in proving that here...
fair enough.

what would be proof?
 

Bali Hai

Senior Member
there was no "separation".
she just started seeing other people.

yes, perhaps i am in for a rude awakening, i haven't experienced anything like this, which i why i promised i would never get married in the first place.

That was the most important promise that you ever broke.

but she said it was the only way she could remain stateside, so i caved.

Your fault, not hers.

yes, as soon as she got her job and gc renewed, she started being unfaithful. and how is that not a violation of vows?
it seems i was correct, no intelligent reason what so ever, for a man to get married, as you are all proving that to be the case.i married her to be with her, not so she get papers and jam.

:(
You knew that and did it anyway.
 
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