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[CJane]

You all like Drama?

I'm kinda beginning to think you do.

1 father should not take child to work with him.
A. I bring her to work where grandma picks her up for daycare, 3 years the court ordered drop offs at this location.

The court ordered for drop offs/exchanges to take place at your place of employment? Where do you work?

4 father is not to violate court order letting child watch adult TV
A. there is no such order. Mother said Family guy comes on and admits that father ask child to leave the room, but child can still hear the show. Mother claims Child knows the theme song perfectly, as we do sing the song together before I ask her to go play abcmouse.com before the show starts. Child has never seen a R rated show to date, and im picky about what she watches but not anal.

There's nothing at all in the order about appropriate television, or "ratings" or anything?

I don't particularly care if you let your kid watch Family Guy. But really... with a show like that? Letting kiddo HEAR isn't that far off from letting kiddo WATCH it. It's pretty verbally raunchy.

5 father is to stop talking about court to the child
A. Child asked me if I won in court, I told her both your mommy and daddy won and that we are not supposed to talk about court. Child knows i'm in court as she goes with me to file documents. No details are ever spoken

"No details are ever spoken" isn't good enough, IMO. Kiddo shouldn't be going with you to file documents. And "we are not supposed to talk about court" is a silly way to approach it. Makes it sound scary and boogeymany. How about "Court's not for kids, it's between the grown ups, so it's not for you to worry about"?

6 Father is to stop telling child to keep secrets
A. I told her we are not supposed to talk about court stuff with anyone. It works so she doesn't bring it up in home and ask questions. Mother supplied a email where I told mother child knows we are in court because she files papers with me. The court order for no secrets from other parent and not to talk about court was recent and in march per mediation. No details of court have ever been told to the child, and I never told her not to tell her mom, just we don't talk about it.

You ARE telling the child to keep secrets. Your kiddo isn't old enough to be parsing definitions as you are. Saying "we don't talk about court", when you TAKE HER WITH YOU to file documents AT COURT is the same thing, in her brain, as "don't tell anyone you went to court with me". You can't see that?

I don't think this even qualifies for ex parte, but ill be there in a suit and ready to go

I don't think it does either. But I think you're both being petty and silly.

 

[outhouse]

The court ordered for drop offs/exchanges to take place at your place of employment? Where do you work?

Car dealership where the child is provided with her own office with a PC with educational links in her own favorites file, And supervision by father at all times.

She is not allowed by my work to be there while on shift other then short visits.

Again this is mother #1 leading emergency in her motion.

There's nothing at all in the order about appropriate television, or "ratings" or anything?

Not yet.

I don't particularly care if you let your kid watch Family Guy. But really... with a show like that? Letting kiddo HEAR isn't that far off from letting kiddo WATCH it. It's pretty verbally raunchy.

Mother claims child can hear it, not me. "learn to read" I try and have her doing something else so she is distracted while im watching any of my shows.

This is pretty rare, and ive stated already, she doesnt watch it and im picky about what she does watch.

Pretty hard to avoid PG ratings on television as 90% of shows hold this rating, I do the best I can which is better then most.

"No details are ever spoken" isn't good enough, IMO. Kiddo shouldn't be going with you to file documents. And "we are not supposed to talk about court" is a silly way to approach it. Makes it sound scary and boogeymany. How about "Court's not for kids, it's between the grown ups, so it's not for you to worry about"?

yes mommy and daddy both won, sounds spooky, come on. Your splitting hairs here, but I do like what you have stated.


The order states not to talk about court matters, the child brought it up, I did not, and no matters of the Court were talked about.



The whole point of a order like this is not to bring the child into the argument, and I successfully have done that.

You ARE telling the child to keep secrets. Your kiddo isn't old enough to be parsing definitions as you are. Saying "we don't talk about court", when you TAKE HER WITH YOU to file documents AT COURT is the same thing, in her brain, as "don't tell anyone you went to court with me". You can't see that?

I see it, but you don't read well or understand.

She brought it up, and I told her we don't talk about that.

She went to court with me to file papers, and I don't see any issue with that, ever been in the waiting room, there are always children there? I don't always have daycare. Not only that I have been in court for more then half of the childs life.

I never told her not to tell anyone she we went to court nor did I imply that I did. Simply "lets not talk about court"


Not only that, this ruling just happened my last court date, after 3.5 years of court. It was not in place when we went to court.

I don't think it does either. But I think you're both being petty and silly.

Your personal opinion of me is not relevant, your bias to me has always been obvious.

 

[MedusasRevenge]

C
Mother claims child can hear it, not me. "learn to read" I try and have her doing something else so she is distracted while im watching any of my shows.

This is pretty rare, and ive stated already, she doesnt watch it and im picky about what she does watch.

Pretty hard to avoid PG ratings on television as 90% of shows hold this rating, I do the best I can which is better then most.

DVR, TIVO, Hopper are all wonderful tools. So are DVDs.

 

[outhouse]

DVR, TIVO, Hopper are all wonderful tools. So are DVDs.

Thank you

I do use such.

It is a double edged sword though. I find sponge bob and the like worse for a child then some shows, and she at almost 7 is to young for science shows or other G rated educational programs.


The TV is in no way child friendly, I try and do my best to limit this time.

 

[outhouse]

I would also like to point out that every single issue described by mother was brought up and discussed in detail in mediation.

Less, the do not talk about court matters, or keeping secrets from the other parent.

The mother simply does not like the mediators findings, and is seeking to relitigate inanely hoping for a different outcome.

 

[MedusasRevenge]

Thank you

I do use such.

It is a double edged sword though. I find sponge bob and the like worse for a child then some shows, and she at almost 7 is to young for science shows or other G rated educational programs.


The TV is in no way child friendly, I try and do my best to limit this time.

Too young for science or G-rated educational shows??? At SEVEN? I beg to differ. You may have to look for them (yes, there are Animal Planet, DIscovery, etc. shows that may not be appropriate), but they are there and can be easily DVRd for viewing at a later date/time. OR... You could DVR "your" shows to watch after she is in bed.

 

[outhouse]

Too young for science or G-rated educational shows??? At SEVEN? I beg to differ. You may have to look for them (yes, there are Animal Planet, DIscovery, etc. shows that may not be appropriate), but they are there and can be easily DVRd for viewing at a later date/time. OR... You could DVR "your" shows to watch after she is in bed.

After bed time is when I do get to watch "my" tv, and most are on DVR.


She wont watch Animal planet or Discovery. They are always on because they are my favorites.


I know G rated shows are out there, but they are the minority.

She watches quite a bit of Disney though.


I think the point to the ratings is fine and I use them as they are intended.

 

[Ladyback1]

Too young for science or G-rated educational shows??? At SEVEN? I beg to differ. You may have to look for them (yes, there are Animal Planet, DIscovery, etc. shows that may not be appropriate), but they are there and can be easily DVRd for viewing at a later date/time. OR... You could DVR "your" shows to watch after she is in bed.

^^^^^^^

agreed.

 

[Rushia]

Sheesh, I must be doing something wrong then. My TV pretty much sits on History, Discovery and the like. I even let my 6 year old watch it.

 

[MedusasRevenge]

Sheesh, I must be doing something wrong then. My TV pretty much sits on History, Discovery and the like. I even let my 6 year old watch it.

My youngest practically lived on Animal Planet. Used to love having lunch with Grandpa, watching the animals. <shrug>

 

[CJane]

And my 7 year old's favorite movie is Zombieland. Really, I couldn't care less what OP allows the child to watch in his home. However, Mom seems to think there's something in the order relating to appropriate entertainment, so it's worth OP thinking about.

I also think OP backpedals a lot. HE stated that they "sing the song" before he sends her out of the room to play abcmouse.com (which, IMO, is crapducation software). Then he said that no, MOM said that kiddo can hear it. Then he said that child is in bed when he watches TV, because it's all DVR'd. Then he says kiddo is distracted while he watches TV.

I knew my life got less complicated when I shut down the cable and internet at home. I just hadn't ever had such a clear picture of HOW it became simpler. No more looking for something on the computer to distract the kids so they'd leave me alone to watch TV. No more assessing educational software/websites for actual quality so they could babysit the kids for me. It's been awesome.

 

[outhouse]

And my 7 year old's favorite movie is Zombieland. Really, I couldn't care less what OP allows the child to watch in his home. However, Mom seems to think there's something in the order relating to appropriate entertainment, so it's worth OP thinking about.

I also think OP backpedals a lot. HE stated that they "sing the song" before he sends her out of the room to play abcmouse.com (which, IMO, is crapducation software). Then he said that no, MOM said that kiddo can hear it. Then he said that child is in bed when he watches TV, because it's all DVR'd. Then he says kiddo is distracted while he watches TV.

I knew my life got less complicated when I shut down the cable and internet at home. I just hadn't ever had such a clear picture of HOW it became simpler. No more looking for something on the computer to distract the kids so they'd leave me alone to watch TV. No more assessing educational software/websites for actual quality so they could babysit the kids for me. It's been awesome.

That I agree with. And I do think about it. Thank you


The mother is using anything she can as a excuse to re-litigate period. This Family guy stuff was brought up in mediation and addressed. The mother simply didn't like what the mediator ruled, and wants a judge to hear it, hoping for a different outcome.


As far as Family guy goes, there is no backpeddling, its just the way it looks when throwing in details not known to posters here I find relevant.

Im not perfect, and Im sure some parents can have TV time where their children only see G rated TV. But I do keep an eye on what kiddo is doing and turn shows off or have her do something else.

Abcmouse has helped her reading, and she was in the top of her class, and it is better then most of what is on TV.

 

[TinkerBelleLuvr]

And what you choose to let your children view or not view is PARENTING STYLE. We are entitled to our differences.

 

[outhouse]

And what you choose to let your children view or not view is PARENTING STYLE. We are entitled to our differences.

True

And of all the things mother brought up, this one the judge completely ignored.

 

[outhouse]

Alright just walked in the door from Court.

Judge tossed it out.


He did let Mother bring up her concerns. Mainly we delt with "child at work" and "vacation days"


Judge stated there were no change in circumstances, and did comment that the mediation report warns against continued litigation and the possible negative effect it might have on the child.

He also warned, that the court may view one parent as unfriendly if we dont work things out.




On the way out of the building Mother and her new Husband, said you think this is over but its not, its not over!


There is no finish in sight