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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? New York and California

My wife got an e-mail from her ex-husband stating for several reasons that if we step a foot on US soil, we will be arrested and held until court. We currently live in Germany and are planning to move back to the States to live for awhile.

He says we committed fraud on my son's birth certificate, which we technically did, I guess. They were in the process of a divorce, I put my name on the birth certificate because I'm the biological father. My wife lived in California with me and her ex-husband in New York. My wife technically lied and said she was single. She was advised to do this by nurses she talked to. They said it's not really an issue. I know taking legal advise from a nurse is not a good idea, but we figured they deal with this a lot and it would be okay. Either her husband or nobody should be listed on the birth certificate, apparently. He doesn't want to claim legal rights to our child, which I know he can if he wants, but he won't because he knows it's not his.

The rest of the things he claims are false. These are:

He says he "investigated" our case and said he spoke to someone in my family that told him they seen my wife abuse my child and that they think she shouldn't have custody. This is a fabricated lie! I don't even know why or how he thought this one up. He said he reported her to the CPS. Can I find out if he really did this?

He says my wife left the country to run away from credit card debt, to apply for a new visa to rid herself of the debt connected to her "old" Social Security Number. I'm assuming he's making this up because he's mad they're contacting him about her debt, which they shouldn't be doing because it's a private debt. Anyway, his claim is false because it's not logical. The only reason she had to file for a new immigrant visa is because we stayed outside the country for over a year, making her status void. And she will retain her Social Security Number and debt with her new status.

So he says he contacted Homeland Security and the National Guard about her crimes. Do you really think we will be arrested at all? This of course scares me because we will have our 2 year old son, and I don't want him taken away. Everything he's claiming is bull****. Should we worry? By the way, he is a police officer, but he's not a very smart one.

Thanks in advance!
 


Just Blue

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? New York and California

My wife got an e-mail from her ex-husband stating for several reasons that if we step a foot on US soil, we will be arrested and held until court. We currently live in Germany and are planning to move back to the States to live for awhile.

He says we committed fraud on my son's birth certificate, which we technically did, I guess. They were in the process of a divorce, I put my name on the birth certificate because I'm the biological father. My wife lived in California with me and her ex-husband in New York. My wife technically lied and said she was single. She was advised to do this by nurses she talked to. They said it's not really an issue. I know taking legal advise from a nurse is not a good idea, but we figured they deal with this a lot and it would be okay. Either her husband or nobody should be listed on the birth certificate, apparently. He doesn't want to claim legal rights to our child, which I know he can if he wants, but he won't because he knows it's not his.

The rest of the things he claims are false. These are:

He says he "investigated" our case and said he spoke to someone in my family that told him they seen my wife abuse my child and that they think she shouldn't have custody. This is a fabricated lie! I don't even know why or how he thought this one up. He said he reported her to the CPS. Can I find out if he really did this?

He says my wife left the country to run away from credit card debt, to apply for a new visa to rid herself of the debt connected to her "old" Social Security Number. I'm assuming he's making this up because he's mad they're contacting him about her debt, which they shouldn't be doing because it's a private debt. Anyway, his claim is false because it's not logical. The only reason she had to file for a new immigrant visa is because we stayed outside the country for over a year, making her status void. And she will retain her Social Security Number and debt with her new status.

So he says he contacted Homeland Security and the National Guard about her crimes. Do you really think we will be arrested at all? This of course scares me because we will have our 2 year old son, and I don't want him taken away. Everything he's claiming is bull****. Should we worry? By the way, he is a police officer, but he's not a very smart one.

Thanks in advance!
Hire an attorney to assist...as you should have when the child was born.
 

OHRoadwarrior

Senior Member
Lying on Federal government documents is enough to qualify for a permanent ban. Lying on state gov't documents could be considered crimes of moral turpitude. You both need lawyers if you are heading this way. The child could potentially be taken from you both as non citizens if you are deported.
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
https://forum.freeadvice.com/divorce-separation-annulment-36/putting-biological-father-birth-certificate-before-divorce-final-600363.html#post3210271
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Lying on Federal government documents is enough to qualify for a permanent ban. Lying on state gov't documents could be considered crimes of moral turpitude. You both need lawyers if you are heading this way. The child could potentially be taken from you both as non citizens if you are deported.
This is completely incorrect. Not even remotely accurate.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
This is completely incorrect. Not even remotely accurate.


In fact, the chances of that happening are greater than me becoming the next President of the United States

Not. Gonna. Happen.


And frankly, I think the ex is full of it. He's doing it for no other reason than to get a rise out of Mom.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? New York and California

My wife got an e-mail from her ex-husband stating for several reasons that if we step a foot on US soil, we will be arrested and held until court. We currently live in Germany and are planning to move back to the States to live for awhile.

He says we committed fraud on my son's birth certificate, which we technically did, I guess. They were in the process of a divorce, I put my name on the birth certificate because I'm the biological father. My wife lived in California with me and her ex-husband in New York. My wife technically lied and said she was single. She was advised to do this by nurses she talked to. They said it's not really an issue. I know taking legal advise from a nurse is not a good idea, but we figured they deal with this a lot and it would be okay. Either her husband or nobody should be listed on the birth certificate, apparently. He doesn't want to claim legal rights to our child, which I know he can if he wants, but he won't because he knows it's not his.

The rest of the things he claims are false. These are:

He says he "investigated" our case and said he spoke to someone in my family that told him they seen my wife abuse my child and that they think she shouldn't have custody. This is a fabricated lie! I don't even know why or how he thought this one up. He said he reported her to the CPS. Can I find out if he really did this?

He says my wife left the country to run away from credit card debt, to apply for a new visa to rid herself of the debt connected to her "old" Social Security Number. I'm assuming he's making this up because he's mad they're contacting him about her debt, which they shouldn't be doing because it's a private debt. Anyway, his claim is false because it's not logical. The only reason she had to file for a new immigrant visa is because we stayed outside the country for over a year, making her status void. And she will retain her Social Security Number and debt with her new status.

So he says he contacted Homeland Security and the National Guard about her crimes. Do you really think we will be arrested at all? This of course scares me because we will have our 2 year old son, and I don't want him taken away. Everything he's claiming is bull****. Should we worry? By the way, he is a police officer, but he's not a very smart one.

Thanks in advance!


There are so many holes in the ex's "story" that I can't even begin to count 'em.

Seriously - quit worrying. That's NOT how this stuff works AT ALL.
 

dave33

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? New York and California

My wife got an e-mail from her ex-husband stating for several reasons that if we step a foot on US soil, we will be arrested and held until court. We currently live in Germany and are planning to move back to the States to live for awhile.

He says we committed fraud on my son's birth certificate, which we technically did, I guess. They were in the process of a divorce, I put my name on the birth certificate because I'm the biological father. My wife lived in California with me and her ex-husband in New York. My wife technically lied and said she was single. She was advised to do this by nurses she talked to. They said it's not really an issue. I know taking legal advise from a nurse is not a good idea, but we figured they deal with this a lot and it would be okay. Either her husband or nobody should be listed on the birth certificate, apparently. He doesn't want to claim legal rights to our child, which I know he can if he wants, but he won't because he knows it's not his.

The rest of the things he claims are false. These are:

He says he "investigated" our case and said he spoke to someone in my family that told him they seen my wife abuse my child and that they think she shouldn't have custody. This is a fabricated lie! I don't even know why or how he thought this one up. He said he reported her to the CPS. Can I find out if he really did this?

He says my wife left the country to run away from credit card debt, to apply for a new visa to rid herself of the debt connected to her "old" Social Security Number. I'm assuming he's making this up because he's mad they're contacting him about her debt, which they shouldn't be doing because it's a private debt. Anyway, his claim is false because it's not logical. The only reason she had to file for a new immigrant visa is because we stayed outside the country for over a year, making her status void. And she will retain her Social Security Number and debt with her new status.

So he says he contacted Homeland Security and the National Guard about her crimes. Do you really think we will be arrested at all? This of course scares me because we will have our 2 year old son, and I don't want him taken away. Everything he's claiming is bull****. Should we worry? By the way, he is a police officer, but he's not a very smart one.

Thanks in advance!
Homeland security and especially the National Guard would have nothing to do with these issues. The ex. is pulling your leg.
 

Isis1

Senior Member
OP, your wife's ex just lifted my spirits. i have seen stupid people in my day....but dang. that was HILARIOUS.

i'm not laughing at you by any means. but that is the best crock of shut i have seen all year.


you will NOT be arrested. but you can e-mail him back and tell him that I said he's an idiot?
 

OHRoadwarrior

Senior Member
This is completely incorrect. Not even remotely accurate.
Without wasting all my time digging through the immigration code and other Federal law, this is sufficient to prove you again have you lips flapping and fingers typing with no basis of fact to back you up. It applies to all immigration forms. For example, lying about the child you are removing from the country and birth certificate fraud to obtain a passport. This of course after filing a fraudulent state document in CA.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/fiance-marriage-visa-book/chapter4-10.html

Further, they can expect a visit from these people.:rolleyes: The crimes are good for 10 years and $250,000 in fines possibly.

http://www.state.gov/m/ds/investigat/
 
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Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Just for the record - the only person that filed an improper AOP was the mother. Marital status of the person signing the form as the father doesn't matter.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
Without wasting all my time digging through the immigration code and other Federal law, this is sufficient to prove you again have you lips flapping and fingers typing with no basis of fact to back you up. It applies to all immigration forms. For example, lying about the child you are removing from the country and birth certificate fraud to obtain a passport. This of course after filing a fraudulent state document in CA.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/fiance-marriage-visa-book/chapter4-10.html



Where was a fiance visa ever discussed? (hint: it wasn't)

The National Guard won't be arresting anyone. The child will not be removed from the non-citizen parents.

Period. Even if.

You really don't want to keep arguing this. Seriously.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Where was a fiance visa ever discussed? (hint: it wasn't)

The National Guard won't be arresting anyone. The child will not be removed from the non-citizen parents.

Period. Even if.

You really don't want to keep arguing this. Seriously.
On top of that, you can tell from the OP's English that he is not foreign...even if he grew up in Germany and spoke perfect English it would be British English not American English...AND if OP's wife was originally from Germany she was obviously married to another American first, and therefore didn't come to the US as OP's fiancée. Heck if the OP was in the US long enough to have perfect American English he certainly didn't come to the US as his wife's fiancé. Heck, they could easily both be American citizens for all we know.
 

OHRoadwarrior

Senior Member
It pertains to substance of the article regarding submission of false information to the gov't, not specifically the fiance visa. Are you a bit off today?


Where was a fiance visa ever discussed? (hint: it wasn't)

The National Guard won't be arresting anyone. The child will not be removed from the non-citizen parents.

Period. Even if.

You really don't want to keep arguing this. Seriously.
 

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