1 ecstasy pill

[BigMouthWino]

Don't you have to wait until arraignment?

Perhaps that is their policy. But if you go sit in their lobby and it is clear you're not going anywhere some PD is going to come out and see you.

I implore you to PLEASE print this entire thread when you go and ask if what you are doing online is helping or hurting your case. You won't take our word for it - please take theirs.

 

[7654]

I don't know what to tell you...You're story didn't sound like the cops ripped the place apart to find this...It sounded like it was drugs in open view of anyone and the cop just saw it....I don't think the right argument for you to make is that it 'was dirty so we didn't just throw it there when the cops showed up' I think the argument has to be that it was 'not in plan sight and the police had no reasonable cause for search' But i don't even know if that is a valid argument....YOU NEED A LAWYER

But i do know, you aren't going to get anywhere by saying the pill was old and dirty...Now don't get me wrong, i'm not anti-drugs, there is a time and a place for everything....But, you aren't going to find a Judge like me, your judge isn't going to think that some drug addict is going to make sure all his pills are clean and fresh before taking. That argument is just not viable

Hmm. Ok. Well he didn't see it until he stuck his head under the table.
I'm not a drug addict. I'm pretty sure you can't get addicted to ecstasy anyway - not physically. As far as I know.

 

[BigMouthWino]

No. Wait. We weren't high on drugs.

Sure and you can believe that a jury of 12 people that are too dumb to get out of jury duty are going to believe that kids your age that are drinking illegally weren't high on illegal substances - RIGHT? You seem inclined to believe in the stupidity of others - what makes you think you're going to get jurors as smart as you are?

 

[BigMouthWino]

Hmm. Ok. Well he didn't see it until he stuck his head under the table.
I'm not a drug addict. I'm pretty sure you can't get addicted to ecstasy anyway - not physically. As far as I know.

Well there is what they call the "honeymoon" phase. Then later on you "lose the magic," but what do i know?

 

[longislandguy]

lol, why is this guy arguing with everyone?? Dude, i don't care if it was your pill or not, i don't care if you went home after and smoked meth and drove into an old folks home and started stealing their walkers....It doesn't make any difference to me....What you need to find is the best argument to convince a room of 12 morons that you're not guilty....the 'dirty pill' method just isn't going to work....You can't even convince a handful of internet forum users that that is valid

What else do you got?

 

[7654]

Sure and you can believe that a jury of 12 people that are too dumb to get out of jury duty are going to believe that kids your age that are drinking illegally weren't high on illegal substances - RIGHT? You seem inclined to believe in the stupidity of others - what makes you think you're going to get jurors as smart as you are?

Well if the cops want to lie about us being under the influence.....don't they call that perjury or something? Wouldn't cops be advised against it? Would a cop really risk their career to nail 3 kids for 1 ecstasy pill?

Gosh, how would I counter that claim....HMMMM.

You're right, I should keep some secrets.

Perhaps that is their policy. But if you go sit in their lobby and it is clear you're not going anywhere some PD is going to come out and see you. .

You really think? Ok. Thanks.

 

[7654]

Well there is what they call the "honeymoon" phase. Then later on you "lose the magic," but what do i know?

**************..I don't know, BigMouthWino, what DO you know??

 

[BigMouthWino]

You really think? Ok. Thanks.

Yes. 100%. You're welcome. Get there early and plan to stay late.

 

[7654]

lol, why is this guy arguing with everyone?? Dude, i don't care if it was your pill or not, i don't care if you went home after and smoked meth and drove into an old folks home and started stealing their walkers....It doesn't make any difference to me....What you need to find is the best argument to convince a room of 12 morons that you're not guilty....the 'dirty pill' method just isn't going to work....You can't even convince a handful of internet forum users that that is valid

What else do you got?

Nothing better than stories about stealing walkers from old folks.

 

[TigerD]

...What you need to find is the best argument to convince a room of 12 morons that you're not guilty...

I have been fortunate enough to observe jury selection in more than 20 trials in various capacities, including assisting attorneys during voir dire. This slighting view of juries is wrong at best and terribly offense at the worst.

Juries tend to take their duties seriously and are generally very good at reaching conclusions on the evidence presented. Bad juries are more a function of bad attorneys.

DC

 

[justalayman]

I have been fortunate enough to observe jury selection in more than 20 trials in various capacities, including assisting attorneys during voir dire. This slighting view of juries is wrong at best and terribly offense at the worst.

Juries tend to take their duties seriously and are generally very good at reaching conclusions on the evidence presented. Bad juries are more a function of bad attorneys.

DC

while the joke longislandguy tossed out describes some jurors feelings, personally, I would love to set on a jury. I was called one time many many years ago and was dismissed during voir dire went home, and have never been called again. I was pissed. It was a federal civil court and it was an interesting case as well.

as well, attorney's don't want morons on the jury. It makes the attorney's job incredibly difficult. The morons are going to get dismissed early on in the process... and no, that is not why I got dismissed. I had some personal experience that caused one of the lawyers (don't know which side's lawyer) concern that I may be biased. The funny thing about that experience is it could have been a benefit or detriment to either sides case depending on how I felt about it.

 

[7654]

That pill was tested and was not ecstasy.

Surprised!

Not surprised.


I knew that pill looked ridiculous.

Oh and by 'pill' I mean candy. Fine police work. Maybe we can argue that the beer was something completely different too?

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

Isn't the jury a group of 12 peers who listen extensively then vote on which lawyer lied best?

You got lucky. Congrats

I have been fortunate enough to observe jury selection in more than 20 trials in various capacities, including assisting attorneys during voir dire. This slighting view of juries is wrong at best and terribly offense at the worst.

Juries tend to take their duties seriously and are generally very good at reaching conclusions on the evidence presented. Bad juries are more a function of bad attorneys.

DC

 

[7654]

Isn't the jury a group of 12 peers who listen extensively then vote on which lawyer lied best?

You got lucky. Congrats

I don't know if I would call it "lucky" to end up with an arrest record including ecstasy when it was really candy and I don't even do ecstasy anyway.

Perhaps some better training in drug identification might be a good idea...

 

[justalayman]

I don't know if I would call it "lucky" to end up with an arrest record including ecstasy when it was really candy and I don't even do ecstasy anyway.

Perhaps some better training in drug identification might be a good idea...

or maybe you don't break the law and hang around with those that do and you won't be seen with such suspicion.


how's that MIP thing going for ya?