CPS workers committing perjury and conspired to remove children...

[TJ007]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Michigan

Back story: I am a mother to 5 girls, 2 are grown with children and 3 are minors. Daughter 1 does not live with me, has 3 children and Daughter 2 lives with me has 1 child. I have sole legal and physical custody of daughters 3, 4 and 5. We were the victims of an attempted home invasion. Two perpetrators broke a window alerting us to them. Daughter 2, her boyfriend and I defended the home resulting in 1 perpetrator sent to the hospital. The other perpetrator was handled by my dog. The perpetrators were friends of a girl who refused to accept daughter 2 and her boyfriend did not want to be friends any longer. This was due to the girl causing problems in their relationship. This girl has never been to my home and went to school with daughter 1. The girl was angry her plan did not go well so she made a false complaint to CPS. This is what brought a lying cps social worker to my home.

In the complaint the girl included daughter 1's children claiming they are always at my home since she did not know where daughter 1 lived. Cps worker goes to daughter 1's home first then my home. The cps worker was told what happened and the caller has never been to our homes. The first visit the cps worker was appropriate,seen my home and confirmed the complaint was untrue as regards to my home. This cps worker then kept coming to my home every four to five days. I knew she was up to something so she was not allowed into my home any longer. The worker had police come with her in an attempt to intimidate and everything and she was still told to get a warrant. Cps worker tries to open a case on daughter 2 and I claiming frivolous things such as budgeting and improper supervision of the children. We attended a team decision meeting in opposition. We were threatened of course, but did not sign anything at that time. A week later the CPS worker comes to my home with parent agency agreements. I told her we would like to consult counsel first before signing anything. The parent agency agreements were very different than what was discussed in the team meeting. All the sudden my home was an issue. Daughter 2 and I refused to sign to false things and decided to go to court. I was not concerned because I could prove everything to be false. This CPS worker did not know an agency service worker always came to my home for daughter 2's boyfriend due to him being voluntary foster care. My home was where his supervision service worker could always find him.

A week before the preliminary hearing Daughter 1 was hospitalized and I was caring for her 3 children with a power of attorney in place. Daughter 1 was trying to refuse medication clearly stated in her medical records to be fatal. A social worker of the hospital claims her to be refusing treatment in a complaint to cps. Cps worker B goes to see daughter 1 at the hospital. Daughter 1 tells cps worker its non of her business where her children are. Cps worker B files to remove daughter 1's children claiming she left them in improper care the next day. Daughter 1 or myself was never notified of this preliminary hearing. That evening cps worker B came to my home with an officer to get daughter 1's 3 children with a removal order. Daughter 2 and my preliminary hearing was the next day and the lies were unbelievable. In my county we are not allowed to defend or present evidence in a preliminary hearing. My children and daughter 2's child were removed. From here a magnitude of violations happened.

The Result: I pushed for trial and challenged the cps petition. After 3 days of testimony cps withdrew their petition. Cps worker B committed perjury on the stand. Daughter 2's boyfriends service worker testified on my behalf and was fired from the service agency immediately after. The cps worker for my case and daughter 2's case admitted to the prosecutor she lied, however she was not disposed on the stand before cps pulled the petition. My children and daughter 2's child were immediately returned. Daughter 1's case was dismissed at the next hearing and her children returned. Seven children effected and denied their homes for 3 months. Three mothers denied their children for 3 months. Conspiracy and perjury can be easily proven. I give great respect and thanks to our court appointed attorneys.

Currently we are looking for an attorney to handle a lawsuit, but we all want more than that. We all want justice, charges of these two cps workers to hold them accountable for their actions. They swore to these petitions committing perjury and broken more laws than I can mention in a short time.

Question: Who do we approach for criminal charges of the two cps workers? The state police? FBI? We have already attempted to have them sanctioned in the same family court. Thank you for your time!

 

[Ohiogal]

The CPS workers are NOT going to be charged criminally.

 

[LdiJ]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Michigan

Back story: I am a mother to 5 girls, 2 are grown with children and 3 are minors. Daughter 1 does not live with me, has 3 children and Daughter 2 lives with me has 1 child. I have sole legal and physical custody of daughters 3, 4 and 5. We were the victims of an attempted home invasion. Two perpetrators broke a window alerting us to them. Daughter 2, her boyfriend and I defended the home resulting in 1 perpetrator sent to the hospital. The other perpetrator was handled by my dog. The perpetrators were friends of a girl who refused to accept daughter 2 and her boyfriend did not want to be friends any longer. This was due to the girl causing problems in their relationship. This girl has never been to my home and went to school with daughter 1. The girl was angry her plan did not go well so she made a false complaint to CPS. This is what brought a lying cps social worker to my home.

In the complaint the girl included daughter 1's children claiming they are always at my home since she did not know where daughter 1 lived. Cps worker goes to daughter 1's home first then my home. The cps worker was told what happened and the caller has never been to our homes. The first visit the cps worker was appropriate,seen my home and confirmed the complaint was untrue as regards to my home. This cps worker then kept coming to my home every four to five days. I knew she was up to something so she was not allowed into my home any longer. The worker had police come with her in an attempt to intimidate and everything and she was still told to get a warrant. Cps worker tries to open a case on daughter 2 and I claiming frivolous things such as budgeting and improper supervision of the children. We attended a team decision meeting in opposition. We were threatened of course, but did not sign anything at that time. A week later the CPS worker comes to my home with parent agency agreements. I told her we would like to consult counsel first before signing anything. The parent agency agreements were very different than what was discussed in the team meeting. All the sudden my home was an issue. Daughter 2 and I refused to sign to false things and decided to go to court. I was not concerned because I could prove everything to be false. This CPS worker did not know an agency service worker always came to my home for daughter 2's boyfriend due to him being voluntary foster care. My home was where his supervision service worker could always find him.

A week before the preliminary hearing Daughter 1 was hospitalized and I was caring for her 3 children with a power of attorney in place. Daughter 1 was trying to refuse medication clearly stated in her medical records to be fatal. A social worker of the hospital claims her to be refusing treatment in a complaint to cps. Cps worker B goes to see daughter 1 at the hospital. Daughter 1 tells cps worker its non of her business where her children are. Cps worker B files to remove daughter 1's children claiming she left them in improper care the next day. Daughter 1 or myself was never notified of this preliminary hearing. That evening cps worker B came to my home with an officer to get daughter 1's 3 children with a removal order. Daughter 2 and my preliminary hearing was the next day and the lies were unbelievable. In my county we are not allowed to defend or present evidence in a preliminary hearing. My children and daughter 2's child were removed. From here a magnitude of violations happened.

The Result: I pushed for trial and challenged the cps petition. After 3 days of testimony cps withdrew their petition. Cps worker B committed perjury on the stand. Daughter 2's boyfriends service worker testified on my behalf and was fired from the service agency immediately after. The cps worker for my case and daughter 2's case admitted to the prosecutor she lied, however she was not disposed on the stand before cps pulled the petition. My children and daughter 2's child were immediately returned. Daughter 1's case was dismissed at the next hearing and her children returned. Seven children effected and denied their homes for 3 months. Three mothers denied their children for 3 months. Conspiracy and perjury can be easily proven. I give great respect and thanks to our court appointed attorneys.

Currently we are looking for an attorney to handle a lawsuit, but we all want more than that. We all want justice, charges of these two cps workers to hold them accountable for their actions. They swore to these petitions committing perjury and broken more laws than I can mention in a short time.

Question: Who do we approach for criminal charges of the two cps workers? The state police? FBI? We have already attempted to have them sanctioned in the same family court. Thank you for your time!

You would have to speak to the DA. They are the ones that could file charges. The social worker who testified for you should speak to the Department of Labor.

 

[Ohiogal]

You would have to speak to the DA. They are the ones that could file charges. The social worker who testified for you should speak to the Department of Labor.

The prosecuting attorney represents CSB. Think about that for a moment.

Perjury was not committed because there is no evidence that the worker committed it. She didn't say one story on the stand (because she didn't testify) and another in a sworn writing.

Not to mention CSB and their employees have qualified immunity.

 

[LdiJ]

The prosecuting attorney represents CSB. Think about that for a moment.

Perjury was not committed because there is no evidence that the worker committed it. She didn't say one story on the stand (because she didn't testify) and another in a sworn writing.

Not to mention CSB and their employees have qualified immunity.

I wasn't commenting on the chances of success. I was simply telling her who could file charges. The whole thing is appalling.

 

[stealth2]

How old are daughter 2 and her b/f? And their child (assuming it is their child...)? I can't help but wonder if that is where part of the problem lies, since he is apparently a minor (voluntary foster care)...

 

[TJ007]

The CPS workers are NOT going to be charged criminally.

You might be right, but the child protection law does state penalties for deliberate acts of falsehoods done by a social worker. It does not state who imposes those penalties. When there is a will, there is a way. I have the will and I will find the way!

 

[TJ007]

The social worker who testified for you should speak to the Department of Labor.

I am trying to convince the service worker to file a whistle-blower suit.

 

[TJ007]

The prosecuting attorney represents CSB. Think about that for a moment.

Perjury was not committed because there is no evidence that the worker committed it. She didn't say one story on the stand (because she didn't testify) and another in a sworn writing.

Not to mention CSB and their employees have qualified immunity.

Right we cant go to the prosecuting attorney in our county because they represent cps.
The cps worker testified at the preliminary hearing and swore it to be true as well as the petition to be true. Cps worker B sold this worker out on the stand. The petition states social worker B said this and that, but only confirmed she stated half of what was claimed. Original social worker also claimed an officer said things he did not confirm. The cps worker kept amending her petition and it also does not match up with her investigation reports.
From what I have researched cps does not have complete qualified immunity when it comes to malicious deliberate acts.

 

[gam]

Right we cant go to the prosecuting attorney in our county because they represent cps.
The cps worker testified at the preliminary hearing and swore it to be true as well as the petition to be true. Cps worker B sold this worker out on the stand. The petition states social worker B said this and that, but only confirmed she stated half of what was claimed. Original social worker also claimed an officer said things he did not confirm. The cps worker kept amending her petition and it also does not match up with her investigation reports.
From what I have researched cps does not have complete qualified immunity when it comes to malicious deliberate acts.

I don't know if you have read through the following or if there is any helpful information for you but try this
http://www.mfia.state.mi.us/olmweb/ex/Mobile/PSM/PSM%20Mobile.pdf

Once you put up a fight with CPS in Michigan, you end up often with them doing as they have done in your case. Actually been in a similar situation, were my daughter lived in my home with her child and I still had my 16 year old son in my home. Once I had enough and tried to use my rights, the threats started and a case was also opened on me.

I also work in a behavioral health hospital, and CPS is in on a regular basis. Anytime a parent refuses anything, they start the threats and they follow through on them often making up stuff. If as a worker we overhear them and their threats when someone tries to use their rights, we have to call our staff social worker to come get involved to make sure the patients(minor children)rights are not trampled on.

It's really simple in Michigan, you have rights, but if you attempt to use those rights, CPS tramples all over you.

CPS spends so much time on BS cases, that the true cases of abuse and neglect are not investigated properly, they truly stink in Michigan. I've not dealt first hand with a case that has gone as far as yours, so I don't know of who you turn to, to go after the CPS worker. The state's Attorney Generals office oversees all Prosecuting Offices, while they represent the CPS worker, they might be able to provide you some direction. Perhaps one of your state representatives could also point you in some direction.

 

[TJ007]

How old are daughter 2 and her b/f? And their child (assuming it is their child...)? I can't help but wonder if that is where part of the problem lies, since he is apparently a minor (voluntary foster care)...

Daughter 2 and her boyfriend are 19 and their son is 1. In Michigan we have a youth in transition program for foster children aging out for ages 18-21. Its a program set up for independent living. They are great young adults and parents and were trying to rid a bad influence from their lives.

 

[Proserpina]

All I can say is this:

Someone, somewhere, is not understanding the legal realities.

And I predict this thread will go about 5 pages.

OP, you really need to get an attorney involved. You're researching, that's true, but you're nowhere near fully equipped to handle this mess.

 

[TJ007]

All I can say is this:

Someone, somewhere, is not understanding the legal realities.

And I predict this thread will go about 5 pages.

OP, you really need to get an attorney involved. You're researching, that's true, but you're nowhere near fully equipped to handle this mess.

You are right, i'm not fully equipped on my own. I have an attorney on my side as far as trying to get these workers sanctioned. We attempted that in the family court but I think we did not use the correct case law or court. I'm an outside the box thinker and will be that one person to make a difference. I do understand the legal realities. We have laws and i'm looking to have them enforced. it would be sad if I sat by while another family is done the same way without making an effort. I would really like the 2 cps workers fired, but that's not likely to happen.

 

[Proserpina]

You are right, i'm not fully equipped on my own. I have an attorney on my side as far as trying to get these workers sanctioned. We attempted that in the family court but I think we did not use the correct case law or court. I'm an outside the box thinker and will be that one person to make a difference. I do understand the legal realities. We have laws and i'm looking to have them enforced. it would be sad if I sat by while another family is done the same way without making an effort. I would really like the 2 cps workers fired, but that's not likely to happen.

Thank you for not exploding on me there - sometimes the OP starts attacking the respondents.

Now, that's out of the day. I'm not convinced that you know how and when a "whistle blower" case is appropriate, and you're talking about sanctions which - for the most part - are irrelevant to the matter.

(It's also often very difficult to win - moreso when you're going pro se)

I know you are angry and offended and yes, outraged. I do understand that. But being realistic is essential. Get thee to an attorney asap.

 

[TJ007]

Thank you for not exploding on me there - sometimes the OP starts attacking the respondents.

Now, that's out of the day. I'm not convinced that you know how and when a "whistle blower" case is appropriate, and you're talking about sanctions which - for the most part - are irrelevant to the matter.

(It's also often very difficult to win - moreso when you're going pro se)

I know you are angry and offended and yes, outraged. I do understand that. But being realistic is essential. Get thee to an attorney asap.

Your welcome!
I do understand we need attorneys and we do have one on our side willing to help go after the cps workers. The attorney filed on behalf of 7 of us mothers in an attempt to impose sanctions on the cps workers in the same family court. I got the idea of "whistle blower" from the attorney. I come here with a little knowledge and have spoken to attorneys. I am getting the files ready for lawsuits in detail with evidence. I love the groundwork of evidence collection and making it easy for an attorney to present. I am realistic and know something can be done to these cps workers because the child protection law states penalties for knowingly committing malicious deliberate acts by a cps worker. I need to find out whom imposes those penalties and how.