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Pholy

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Florida

I rented a self-storage unit for just over a year. Few things happened during the month of the move out (I'll try to make this as short as possible).

I had some used oil in the unit and the container started to leak unbeknown to me. It appearently crept into the other unit next to mine. I got a call from an unknown number and didn't answer it. It was the storage unit calling to tell me what happened. Thankfully I was already on my way there and was just 5 minutes away when I got the message. When I got there, they had cut my lock but hadn't even lifted my door up. I saw the oil spill and talked to the other storage unit owner and apologized. They weren't even upset, actually they were joking "if this is the worst thing that happens today, it's a good day". Nothing got damaged. I was charged the maximum fee of $100 for the cleanup. The owners son cleaned it up and was irate at me. As I was cleaning up my unit, he mentioned to the other units owner "the more angry we act, the more we can charge for cleanup". WOW.

Anyways, I was actually there to start moving out of my unit and the majority of my things were moved out that day. I spoke with the owner several days later when I came back to get the rest of my things. I apologized to him again and told him I was moving out. He said that as long as I clean up the residue that he wouldn't charge me a move-out fee. I went over the floor three times to ensure it was cleaned. I still got charged $50 clean up fee.

We had a few emails back and forth. He said that they had to degrease it and the whole floor needed new paint. In an earlier email he said that he repaints the floor each time they flip a unit. But it sounded like I was being charged to repaint the floor even though he says he was going to do it anyways. He also cut my access off to the unit earlier than my contract was (I went back to see the unit as he charged me the move-out fee before my contract was up and I couldn't even access it!). I asked him about this several times in a couple emails and he never would answer me. He just always kept saying "if this was any other storage company they would charge you $500". Yea.. right. There were some other shady stuff he did, but you get the gist.

Anyways, sorry for the rant. My main question here is the contract I signed stated the following:

"I (We) do hereby authorize Storage Unlimited to charge my credit card on file for monthly storage fee. I (We) acknowledge that the originator of these transactions to my (our) credit card must comply with the provisions of US Law."

I authorized him to charge my credit card for my monthly storage fee - not anything else (including the two cleaning fees he charged). Now the cleaning fees are in the contract, so not much I can do there. But did he illegal charge my credit card as I never gave him an authorization to charge anything to it other than my monthly rent? From how I'm seeing this is he should have sent me a bill/invoice for the cleaning charges, not automatically charge my CC.

Thoughts?
 


Pholy

Junior Member
Pay the $50 and move on...sheesh...I mean, really, SHEESH!
$150..... but it's really just about the morals this guy had. I didn't really get into all of it, but this guy was a complete a--hole to me for several weeks. I'm sure I'm being petty about it, but I'm okay with that after how I got treated by him.
 

adjusterjack

Senior Member
$150..... but it's really just about the morals this guy had. I didn't really get into all of it, but this guy was a complete a--hole to me for several weeks. I'm sure I'm being petty about it, but I'm okay with that after how I got treated by him.
Has nothing to do with morals.

You authorized the monthly charges to your credit card. That was a big mistake.

An argument can be made that the clean up and move out fees are part of your "monthly" charges and you can argue otherwise. If you want to argue that in front of a judge be my guest.

Or you can see if your credit card company will do a charge back for you. Just understand that a successful charge back doesn't mean you don't owe the money.
 

Pholy

Junior Member
Has nothing to do with morals.

You authorized the monthly charges to your credit card. That was a big mistake.

An argument can be made that the clean up and move out fees are part of your "monthly" charges and you can argue otherwise. If you want to argue that in front of a judge be my guest.

Or you can see if your credit card company will do a charge back for you. Just understand that a successful charge back doesn't mean you don't owe the money.
Thanks for the response. The only reason why I feel like the cleaning charges aren't part of the monthly charges are they didn't happen 1) each month 2) they weren't added onto the monthly rent (they were two separate charges mid month)

I was debating on contacting the CC company about a charge-back just because of this guy and the way he acted in my last month, lied to my face, cut off my access before the contract expired, ect. I did sign the contract stating I'd pay any cleaning fee, so if he does mail me a bill for it I know I'll have to pay. I feel he wasn't authorized to charge my credit card other than the normal monthly rent.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Thanks for the response. The only reason why I feel like the cleaning charges aren't part of the monthly charges are they didn't happen 1) each month 2) they weren't added onto the monthly rent (they were two separate charges mid month)

I was debating on contacting the CC company about a charge-back just because of this guy and the way he acted in my last month, lied to my face, cut off my access before the contract expired, ect. I did sign the contract stating I'd pay any cleaning fee, so if he does mail me a bill for it I know I'll have to pay. I feel he wasn't authorized to charge my credit card other than the normal monthly rent.
In other words, you KNOW you need to pay it, but you just want to jerk him around.

As I said above, move on.
 

Eekamouse

Senior Member
Thanks for the response. The only reason why I feel like the cleaning charges aren't part of the monthly charges are they didn't happen 1) each month 2) they weren't added onto the monthly rent (they were two separate charges mid month)

I was debating on contacting the CC company about a charge-back just because of this guy and the way he acted in my last month, lied to my face, cut off my access before the contract expired, ect. I did sign the contract stating I'd pay any cleaning fee, so if he does mail me a bill for it I know I'll have to pay. I feel he wasn't authorized to charge my credit card other than the normal monthly rent.
He was smart to charge your card for the fees you incurred. It's obvious you would have stiffed him if he had left it up to you. You're extremely lucky he didn't charge you more for storing oil in your unit (a big no-no). I would have charged you the maximum amount allowable for that. Quit complaining and be glad you got off lightly.
 

Pholy

Junior Member
He was smart to charge your card for the fees you incurred. It's obvious you would have stiffed him if he had left it up to you. You're extremely lucky he didn't charge you more for storing oil in your unit (a big no-no). I would have charged you the maximum amount allowable for that. Quit complaining and be glad you got off lightly.
My question is if the charge was legal. I only authorized him for monthly payments, nothing more. He can send a bill for the cleaning.

He knew I had oil in there. I was actually working out of my unit (and so was another guy next to me (as a cabinet builder), he actually advertises you can work out of your unit). I had a motorcycle savage business. He knew there was left over oil, gas, along with new oil, WD40, brake cleaner, ect. the stuff that any motorcycle/car business would have. I told him up front what I was doing and he was fine with that. He actually mentioned that another person had a unit there a few months before and did the same thing before they went to a different city. We were outside city limits which is why I'm sure it was legal, or at he didn't care about. Again, like I said, he was sketchy.

I paid him every month, on time. When he told me the charge of the cleanup 2 weeks before I left, I said "okay". That's when he said I wouldn't charge you for a move-out. Well, he charged me again on move-out. He cut my access off to my unit before my contract ended. So yea, if he wouldn't have done that extra charge he said he wouldn't have done, I wouldn't be here right now.

I came here asking if he was legally entitled to charge a fee to my CC that I didn't sign off for. Was this a legal charge or not? I never authorized him to charge my CC other than a monthly rental charge. He charged my card for two separate cleaning fees that I never authorized him to do. Had he sent me a bill in the mail, that's different.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I came here asking if he was legally entitled to charge a fee to my CC that I didn't sign off for. Was this a legal charge or not? I never authorized him to charge my CC other than a monthly rental charge. He charged my card for two separate cleaning fees that I never authorized him to do. Had he sent me a bill in the mail, that's different.
Your question is moot. You owed the money, now the money is paid. Move along now...
 

Pholy

Junior Member
Your question is moot. You owed the money, now the money is paid. Move along now...
I can see you're from California; I can understand where you come from because of that sense.

Lets go ahead and talk about the laws broke from the legal aspect. I did not authorize him to charge my CC other than my monthly rent. He charged my CC twice for something other than the monthly rent. Was that legal or not? I think not.
 

Pholy

Junior Member
Your question is moot. You owed the money, now the money is paid. Move along now...
And I'd just like to point out that he cut off the access to the gate system to me before my contract was up. Along with several others lies. He violated way more of the contract than just the CC signage. And I feel like I'm not the first.... or the last..
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
And I'd just like to point out that he cut off the access to the gate system to me before my contract was up. Along with several others lies. He violated way more of the contract than just the CC signage. And I feel like I'm not the first.... or the last..
Feel free to contact a lawyer and start a class action suit with all the others that you "think" may be out there.

Have a nice week end...be safe. :)
 

Pholy

Junior Member
Feel free to contact a lawyer and start a class action suit with all the others that you "think" may be out there.

Have a nice week end...be safe. :)
Okay.. Okay... I may have went a bit overboard there. haha.

But can we just get back to the original question... if I signed a contract stating I'd pay my monthly rental payment of my storage unit and then he charges a different payment (in this case, a cleaning charge) to my CC. Is that legal or not?

I know I'm not talking to lawyers right now, but dam, I'm hearing everything but the question I'm asking. Then again, I'm not hearing I'm wrong.
 

Pholy

Junior Member
May I recommend a hearing aid?
From what I'm reading everyone is just saying to suck it up over the small amount of money and that I know I have to pay it anyways, so what's the point of fighting it, ect ect.
I'm not reading that what he did was legal.
 

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