are wyoming 1st degree rape laws gender neutral

[quincy]

I am counting on you, Blue, to start another senior thread if this thread gets out of hand.

 

[Just Blue]

I am counting on you, Blue, to start another senior thread if this thread gets out of hand.

I was a good girl ...

 

[stealth2]

In how many states are you planning to be raped?

Interesting. MY question was going to be "in how many states are you planning to rape someone?"

 

[Just Blue]

Interesting. MY question was going to be "in how many states are you planning to rape someone?"

VERY good point!!

 

[stealth2]

VERY good point!!

Although, having read the other thread, I need to point out - trans* individuals are more likely to be victims of sexual violence than to perpetrate it.

 

[gryndor]

I'm wondering what happens if OP finds a state where the wording of rape law is NOT gender neutral, and is in some way construed as unequal or discriminatory... could this be the research to find grounds for a lawsuit? In the same vein as the ADA warriors?

 

[Taxing Matters]

I'm wondering what happens if OP finds a state where the wording of rape law is NOT gender neutral, and is in some way construed as unequal or discriminatory... could this be the research to find grounds for a lawsuit? In the same vein as the ADA warriors?

No, but it would provide a potential defense to the rapist charged with the crime. So I don't see why the OP is asking this line of questions unless, perhaps, he either wants to rape someone and hope that he can avoid prosecution by claiming the rape statute is unconstitutional or wants to avoid a state where if he is raped the attacker would avoid prosecution by getting the statute held unconstitutional. Either way, the fixation on this is a bit odd.

 

[not2cleverRed]

Although, having read the other thread, I need to point out - trans* individuals are more likely to be victims of sexual violence than to perpetrate it.

I find this statement particularly odd: "I am transgender(and have autism and ocd) and i am offten jeluis of cisgender women. I want to find out if I get raped by a cisgender women ... will there be any law that protects me."

OP is at once "jealous" of cisgender women, and yet lives in fear that cisgender women will rape them. I do not know if OP's fear of ciswomen rapists is credible, but the jealousy of ciswomen coupled with OP's admitted difficulties with social cues might contribute to OP's problems.

The laws themselves are neutral on the subject. There may be an issue of how individuals in law enforcement perceive the credibility of a report, and how an individual prosecutor deals with such a case. In the case of a person with autism, depending where on the spectrum they are, they might have difficulty presenting themselves credibly.

 

[cbg]

There is also the fact that while I do not deny either that female rapists exists or that there are more male victims than are reported, basic biology would suggest that the OP's odds of being raped by a woman in any state are considerably lower than they may believe.

 

[justalayman]

No, but it would provide a potential defense to the rapist charged with the crime. So I don't see why the OP is asking this line of questions unless, perhaps, he either wants to rape someone and hope that he can avoid prosecution by claiming the rape statute is unconstitutional or wants to avoid a state where if he is raped the attacker would avoid prosecution by getting the statute held unconstitutional. Either way, the fixation on this is a bit odd.

A bit odd? I would say it borders on a perverse fascination.

 

[justalayman]

Hold on a dang minute. I’m old. All the gender stuff is confusing but when I looked up cisgender I find this

Cisgender (sometimes cissexual, often abbreviated to simply cis) is a term for people whose gender identity matches the sex that they were assigned at birth. For example, someone who identifies as a woman and was assigned female at birth is a cisgender woman.

So somebody made up a term to describe (and don’t crucify me for this term but it’s the best word I can think of at the moment) a normal person?

Wtf?

 

[stealth2]

Dude.... are you saying trans people are abnormal? (warning: tread carefully.)

 

[Just Blue]

Hold on a dang minute. I’m old. All the gender stuff is confusing but when I looked up cisgender I find this



So somebody made up a term to describe (and don’t crucify me for this term but it’s the best word I can think of at the moment) a hetrosexual person?

Wtf?

 

[quincy]

Dude.... are you saying trans people are abnormal? (warning: tread carefully.)

I think justalayman was trying not to offend but could not find the right word to say what he wanted to say. I think sometimes offense is taken where none was intended.

Educating the uninformed is better than blaming them for their ignorance.

As an aside but on the same note: Not everyone who calls a mom a "birth mom" means disrespect when using that term as a descriptor.

 

[justalayman]

Dude.... are you saying trans people are abnormal? (warning: tread carefully.)

As I said, it was the best word at the moment. I could write 12 pages trying to explain what I mean in an effort to avoid offending y’all but I figured my crew would accept the term with explanation. Don’t shoot me over the word. Just explain why anybody felt they need to create a word for a situation where a physical male identifies as a male and same for female.

That has been accepted as the (oh God, here we go again) “norm” for millennia