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Z3R0

Active Member
the original topic was closed see the following link

https://forum.freeadvice.com/threads/permission.659931/page-2

as a continuance to my questions

I contacted the people who hold the Einstein copyright and they said the quote i was requesting is not a genuine Einstein quote, but i did a little research and a webpage called wikiquote says that that particular quote is under the deputed quotes that someone said he said it, and that the details were vague how he(the person who said he said it)told it) so it is not solid proof, what about this can i use this anyways but reference this as deputed or may have said, do i need to recontact the Einstein permissions ask again, do they care about something they dont claim

Q2 i meant using the word inner child in my book as a part of a chapter not it being the name of the book, does the word inner child have copyrights for using it to describe things in the book (you had mentioned before that it didn't i just wanted to clarify how its used)

3 i read the knight webpage about limiting legal risk, it seems to imply that i can have opinions and state them just dont put false facts,
 
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quincy

Senior Member
the original topic was closed see the following link

https://forum.freeadvice.com/threads/permission.659931/page-2

as a continuance to my questions

I contacted the people who hold the Einstein copyright and they said the quote i was requesting is not a genuine Einstein quote, but i did a little research and a webpage called wikiquote says that that particular quote is under the deputed quotes that someone said he said it, and that the details were vague how he(the person who said he said it)told it) so it is not solid proof, what about this can i use this anyways but reference this as deputed or may have said, do i need to recontact the Einstein permissions ask again, do they care about something they dont claim

Q2 i meant using the word inner child in my book as a part of a chapter not it being the name of the book, does the word inner child have copyrights for using it to describe things in the book (you had mentioned before that it didn't i just wanted to clarify how its used)

3 i read the knight webpage about limiting legal risk, it seems to imply that i can have opinions and state them just dont put false facts,
A1. You should contact the Einstein website previously provided to get information on any quotes attributed to Einstein. When in doubt, request written permission to use the material.

A2. You can check https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-database to see if “inner child” is being used as a trademark. I see nothing offhand, however, that would preclude your use of the words in the way you say you wish to use them.

A3. You can express your opinions. You should not state or imply any false facts when expressing your opinions, if these false facts can be harmful to someone’s reputation.

You should have your manuscript personally reviewed by a publishing law professional in your area, to better determine if your writing infringes on anyone else’s rights or otherwise could spawn a lawsuit over its contents.
 

Z3R0

Active Member
i have a few more questions

Q1 the king james bible copy right seems to be owned by the queen of england and seems to imply that they will always own it., does this apply to the united states, or is the king james bible considered public domain in the usa but not in england?1600s published https://www.cambridge.org/bibles/about/rights-and-permissions/rights-and-permissions-kjv

Q2 on my permissions page do i need to include permissions statements for bible translations that are considered public domain (i used several translations) and just do the newer ones only? here is a webpage that included examples of public domain ones http://www.deeperrevelationbooks.org/authors/PermissionsAcronymBibleVersions.pdf

Q3 i have 3 definitions in my book it seems that they require written permission to use their definitions , but you said in an earlier forum chat that facts are not copyrightable, can i just reword the definitions in my own words and simply, and not have to seek permission, being these are facts.

i found this dictionary that may be free for use https://wordnet.princeton.edu/license-and-commercial-use
 

FlyingRon

Senior Member
The protection of the KJV in England is NOT copyright. Copyright would have expired long ago. It's under royal prerogative (otherwise known as "It's good to be the King"). It has no bearing outside the UK sphere of influence. It doesn't even extend necessarily to all of the commonwealth states.

Other modern versions are very much protected by copyright. What you have to put in your permission statements is entirely up to the person granting licenses.

I have no idea what you're getting at in Q3. Definitions are facts. Facts are not protected by copyright. The expression of that fact may be. So if you're cutting stuff out of a copyright protected dictionary, you'll generally need permission to use verbatim.
 

quincy

Senior Member
i have a few more questions

Q1 the king james bible copy right seems to be owned by the queen of england and seems to imply that they will always own it., does this apply to the united states, or is the king james bible considered public domain in the usa but not in england?1600s published https://www.cambridge.org/bibles/about/rights-and-permissions/rights-and-permissions-kjv

Q2 on my permissions page do i need to include permissions statements for bible translations that are considered public domain (i used several translations) and just do the newer ones only? here is a webpage that included examples of public domain ones http://www.deeperrevelationbooks.org/authors/PermissionsAcronymBibleVersions.pdf

Q3 i have 3 definitions in my book it seems that they require written permission to use their definitions , but you said in an earlier forum chat that facts are not copyrightable, can i just reword the definitions in my own words and simply, and not have to seek permission, being these are facts.

i found this dictionary that may be free for use https://wordnet.princeton.edu/license-and-commercial-use
You should follow the instructions given to acquire permission to use any material still copyright-protected. You should attribute to the copyright holder any works you use in your own publication.

I read over the information provided in your links and it seems pretty clear what you need to do. You can contact any rights-holder directly if you have any questions about whether permission is required for your specific uses, however.

I am happy to see that you are researching copyright permissions before plunging ahead with publication. That is something many writers fail to do - and this failure can come at a hefty cost.
 
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Z3R0

Active Member
1 thanks ron for the kjv answer, but quincy what do you think about the kjv its says on the cambridge page that in united kingdom

2 i know the modern versions will need statements according to their instructions on their webpages, but the ones that are clearly public domain this site says you do http://www.deeperrevelationbooks.org/authors/PermissionsAcronymBibleVersions.pdf but is that just their opinion, this is not any official source just a 3rd party

3 im wondering if i define a definition in my own words (which may have strong similarities) without an example, can i get around having to ask permission, im trying to make this more simple than complicated
 

Z3R0

Active Member
Q4 another issue im haveing is when sending permission requests via email there are several that are not responding at all for months
 

quincy

Senior Member
1 thanks ron for the kjv answer, but quincy what do you think about the kjv its says on the cambridge page that in united kingdom

2 i know the modern versions will need statements according to their instructions on their webpages, but the ones that are clearly public domain this site says you do http://www.deeperrevelationbooks.org/authors/PermissionsAcronymBibleVersions.pdf but is that just their opinion, this is not any official source just a 3rd party

3 im wondering if i define a definition in my own words (which may have strong similarities) without an example, can i get around having to ask permission, im trying to make this more simple than complicated
First, for question number 3, if you are writing out the definition of a word, you should reword a dictionary definition rather than take a definition verbatim from any dictionary. It is how the definition is expressed that can be offered copyright protection (e.g., from Webster’s New World Dictionary, a “church” is a building set apart or consecrated for public worship, esp. one for Christian worship). Facts (e.g., a “church” is a place of worship) would not be protectable.

For question number 3, sending formal letters is better than sending emails. If there is no response to your request for permission, you should not use the copyright-protected material.

For questions number one and two, your source says to attribute scriptures marked KJV as being taken from the “KING JAMES VERSION (KJV): KING JAMES VERSION, public domain.” That seems to me to be a good attribution.
 

Z3R0

Active Member
Q5-2 i also ran across similar names to my book name but not exactly just like this

Q2 but is it manditory to put permission page statments for public domain items, can i not put one for those, being it isnt copyrighted
 

quincy

Senior Member
What you printed off is a list of federally registered trademarks that use the words “inner child.” What that essentially means is that you can use the words “inner” and “child” and “inner child” in your book if your use of the words do not infringe on the rights of any of those entities that are using “inner child” as part of their trademarks.

You cannot open up the same or similar business using the same name that is registered to another business without the possibility of infringing on the trademark holder’s rights. You need to avoid confusing consumers into thinking you are the business holding the registered trademark.

As I said earlier, it does not appear to me that your proposed use of “inner child” as a chapter heading would infringe on any trademark holder’s rights. You can confirm this with an IP attorney in your area.
 

zddoodah

Active Member
Q1 the king james bible copy right seems to be owned by the queen of england and seems to imply that they will always own it., does this apply to the united states, or is the king james bible considered public domain in the usa but not in england?1600s published
I don't have the slightest idea about English copyright law, but no work created prior to 1922 is protected by copyright in the U.S.

Q2 on my permissions page do i need to include permissions statements for bible translations that are considered public domain (i used several translations) and just do the newer ones only? here is a webpage that included examples of public domain ones
I don't know what you mean by "permissions page" or "permissions [sic?] statements," but you are free to use works in the public domain as you wish.

i have 3 definitions in my book it seems that they require written permission to use their definitions
What does the bolded mean ("it seems"?), and what is the antecedent of "their."

Q4 another issue im haveing is when sending permission requests via email there are several that are not responding at all for months
Bummer, but there's no question here.

Q5 here is results for inner child in your trademark database
Whose trademark database? Are you talking about the USPTO?

what does this mean for me for useing it as one small chapter in my book that discusses it, its not my book name just a chapter name
No one here could possibly know, but it's awfully unlikely that a chapter title in a book could infringe a trademark.

Q5-2 i also ran across similar names to my book name but not exactly just like this
Again, there's no question here.

Q2 but is it manditory to put permission page statments for public domain items, can i not put one for those, being it isnt copyrighted
See above.
 

quincy

Senior Member
A correction to what Doodah posted: In the U.S., public domain materials are currently those works published in 1924 and before. More works will enter the public domain in January, 2021 and every year thereafter.

You posted in your original post a link to your previous thread (thanks!) and here is a link to your first thread where more questions on your book were addressed:
https://forum.freeadvice.com/threads/new-full-book.658557/

One additional note: Your questions have been clear.
 
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Z3R0

Active Member
I don't know what you mean by "permissions page" or "permissions [sic?] statements," but you are free to use works in the public domain as you wish.
ok thanks, what do you think quincy can i just skip using putting these(public domain items) on my permission page(a page designated for permission statements in my book at the beginning)
What does the bolded mean ("it seems"?), and what is the antecedent of "their."
a few of the translations of dictionary's permission pages i looked at like oxford and one other i dont remember the name at the moment
Whose trademark database? Are you talking about the USPTO?
the link is at the beggining of this discussion
 

quincy

Senior Member
ok thanks, what do you think quincy can i just skip using putting these(public domain items) on my permission page(a page designated for permission statements in my book at the beginning)

a few of the translations of dictionary's permission pages i looked at like oxford and one other i dont remember the name at the moment

the link is at the beggining of this discussion
I recommend you list all of your sources, whether the work is in the public domain or not.

You can accredit your sources in a preface, in a bibliography, on an acknowledgment page, in footnotes.
 

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