Kicked out for no SSN.

[PayrollHRGuy]

New York for one, I believe.

Cite?

 

[quincy]

Cite?

Pretty easy to find recent stories with a simple Google search, but I can post links to the housing laws later if you wish. Massachusetts and California are two other states with recent stories about this.

And here is a link to the federal law:

https://www.equalhousing.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/2012-Immigration-Status-FAQ.pdf

 

[Zigner]

Pretty easy to find recent stories with a simple Google search, but I can post links to the housing laws later if you wish. Massachusetts and California are two other states with recent stories about this.

And here is a link to the federal law:

https://www.equalhousing.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/2012-Immigration-Status-FAQ.pdf

It's not quite so clear-cut. The LL wouldn't be reporting this to ICE as a form of retaliation. Furthermore, the OP offered the information, as opposed to the LL asking for it.

EDIT: I could be wrong on the second point - that was just my interpretation of it.

 

[quincy]

First, here are links to New York’s human rights law and story about landlords/tenant rights:

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/cchr/downloads/pdf/publications//immigration-guidance.pdf

https://www.thecity.nyc/2021/3/3/22312129/

Zigner, I believe the landlord’s purpose in making a report about a tenant to ICE (or threatening to) is looked at in determining if the landlord violated fair housing or discrimination laws.

A reminder, though: This thread is about Florida.

 

[Zigner]

Zigner, I believe the landlord’s purpose in making a report about a tenant to ICE (or threatening to) is looked at in determining if the landlord violated fair housing or discrimination laws.

Yes - that's what I said. If the purpose isn't as a way to get the tenant out (or otherwise retaliate), then the purpose doesn't violate fair housing or discrimination laws. Proving intent (for either side) may prove difficult.

 

[quincy]

Yes - that's what I said. If the purpose isn't as a way to get the tenant out (or otherwise retaliate), then the purpose doesn't violate fair housing or discrimination laws. Proving intent (for either side) may prove difficult.

What needs to be looked at is the way a state’s human rights laws or civil rights laws or Immigrant Tenant Protection Act (in California) (or similar state laws) are worded. Some state laws make it illegal to inquire about immigration status (directly or indirectly) or act against a tenant based on immigration status - echoing federal housing laws and federal discrimination laws.

Retaliation does not need to be a factor.

 

[Zigner]

What needs to be looked at is the way a state’s human rights laws or civil rights laws or Immigrant Tenant Protection Act (in California) (or similar state laws) are worded. Some state laws make it illegal to inquire about immigration status (directly or indirectly) or act against a tenant based on immigration status - echoing federal housing laws and federal discrimination laws.

Retaliation does not need to be a factor.

Ok, but the OP isn't in CA (or a similar state). The OP is in Florida. Does Florida state law address this matter?

 

[quincy]

Ok, but the OP isn't in CA (or a similar state). The OP is in Florida. Does Florida state law address this matter?

Federal law addresses it. I don’t know if Florida has a specific immigrant protection/human rights/civil rights state law similar to the ones found in many other states, though. It does not appear to.

Here is a link to Florida’s ACLU on immigrant rights:

https://www.aclufl.org/en/campaigns/take-action-protect-immigrants-florida

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

Pretty easy to find recent stories with a simple Google search, but I can post links to the housing laws later if you wish. Massachusetts and California are two other states with recent stories about this.

And here is a link to the federal law:

https://www.equalhousing.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/2012-Immigration-Status-FAQ.pdf

It must not be "pretty easy" or I assume you would have done it. You show me one law that says a LL can't report a suspected crime, not in retaliation, and I'll like every comment you make on this board for a week.

 

[quincy]

It must not be "pretty easy" or I assume you would have done it. You show me one law that says a LL can't report a suspected crime, not in retaliation, and I'll like every comment you make on this board for a week.

I will take my response to your question about New York law off the board instead of hijacking any further this thread about Florida law and HectorK’s concerns.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

I posted my original comment as a warning to the OP bit to get your comment. If the LL simply desires to not rent to undocumented immigrants there is no law local, state, or federal that would stand up to 1st amendment scrutiny.

It would be no different from a LL that didn't want to rent to those that use illegal drugs on the premises if they reported the illegal activity.

 

[LdiJ]

Pretty easy to find recent stories with a simple Google search, but I can post links to the housing laws later if you wish. Massachusetts and California are two other states with recent stories about this.

And here is a link to the federal law:

https://www.equalhousing.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/2012-Immigration-Status-FAQ.pdf

I also know lots of people who were here on temporary visas, business visas or other types of visas who were able to rent appartments with no problem, and they didn't have SSNs. It is true that most of the rentals were six months or less, but nevertheless, they were able to rent. None of them had SSNs.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

I also know lots of people who were here on temporary visas, business visas or other types of visas who were able to rent appartments with no problem, and they didn't have SSNs. It is true that most of the rentals were six months or less, but nevertheless, they were able to rent. None of them had SSNs.

Because they showed or could have shown their passport and visa to the LL.

 

[LdiJ]

Because they showed or could have shown their passport and visa to the LL.

No, the landlord never even asked.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

No, the landlord never even asked.

And then it is safe to assume that he never asked anyone for their information. Or was this tenancy set up before they visited?