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10 year old warrant.... Can it be cleared w/o jail?

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cyberfreak95

Junior Member
Obnoxious1 said:
You are correct that life is not black and white. Everything you posted after that is none of your business.

The debt you owe for taxes is not the debt you owe society for your crime. You would owe the tax debt no matter your criminal history :rolleyes:

The whole 'mistake' thing is a crop of crap. It's good that you have gotten your life together especially after a rough start but a rough start is not an excuse and running is never a solution. Doing better for yourself now does not undo what you have already done.

You can't blame me for the way your life has gone I have never contributed anything to your misery or your bad choices. If you want the respect that you are working to achieve then take what you have coming and get it over with.
I do not blame anyone for my past. My post certainly got off topic as I do not seek any respect. Everyone is entiltled to their own opinion, and if you think that throwing people in jail is the answer, regardless of circumstance then it's your right.

I have everything I need in my life and I don't need anyone's forgiveness for what I have done. I did what I had to do and nothing anyone says could ever change that. If I can't just pay a fine and take care of it then it will just have to stay the way it is. All I wanted to do was take my kids to Disney World without being arrested. I guess I will just go to Disney Land instead.
 


cyberfreak95

Junior Member
cyberfreak95 said:
I do not blame anyone for my past. My post certainly got off topic as I do not seek any respect. Everyone is entiltled to their own opinion, and if you think that throwing people in jail is the answer, regardless of circumstance then it's your right.

I have everything I need in my life and I don't need anyone's forgiveness for what I have done. I did what I had to do and nothing anyone says could ever change that. If I can't just pay a fine and take care of it then it will just have to stay the way it is. All I wanted to do was take my kids to Disney World without being arrested. I guess I will just go to Disney Land instead.

Oh and I should add that my point with the taxes is, if I get put in jail I would loose my job I will NO LONGER BE PAYING THEM, but instead the state would be paying to keep me in jail.
 

parrotmom

Member
I myself have never been in trouble with the law, for any kind of reason. Not even a traffic violation....BUT, my husband..from Michigan...left behind some unfinished business there when he moved to Florida. He spoke to his employer, worked it out with them for time off...and went back to Michigan to face the music like a man. He's always said that's the best move he ever made. Kind of like a "free" feeling.

Just wanted to quickly tell you his story and a happy ending. He came back to Florida job still intact...went on and we got married and have 2 beautiful children. It may not be as bad as your making it out to be.
 
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Obnoxious1

Guest
What do you think would happen to our society if we let the criminals decide their punishment? Suppose we let them pick and chose from what was ordered and just pretend it isn't any big deal?

Is that the world you want your children to grow up in?
 

parrotmom

Member
vivarantthang said:
Somehow I think Florida has bigger fish to fry though these days with all of these damn pedifiles kidnapping and killing children down there, and since these are felons walking around who have commited hanous crimes to children before, they are walking around scott free supposing to be on parole. .

That's it in a nutshell...you have no idea if your not from Florida lol.

I just bought this house 1 year ago in May...did all the sex offender research before I bought, nothing to worry about....then. Well, do the search now and there are too many to worry about. It really sucks now compared to when I grew up. We played outside without our parents having to keep us under their thumb....now, my kids don't go outside AT ALL unless my husband or myself are available to go with them. That's what upsets me.....over an acre and a half, don't have to worry about traffic, but have to worry about who's going to hop my fence to get at my kids.

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this post.
 
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Obnoxious1

Guest
parrotmom said:
That's it in a nutshell...you have no idea if your not from Florida lol.

I just bought this house 1 year ago in May...did all the sex offender research before I bought, nothing to worry about....then. Well, do the search now and there are too many to worry about. It really sucks now compared to when I grew up. We played outside without our parents having to keep us under their thumb....now, my kids don't go outside AT ALL unless my husband or myself are available to go with them. That's what upsets me.....over an acre and a half, don't have to worry about traffic, but have to worry about who's going to hop my fence to get at my kids.

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this post.
Do you think that situation is going to improve by ignoring crime?
 

parrotmom

Member
Obnoxious1 said:
Do you think that situation is going to improve by ignoring crime?

Of course it's not....I'm last the last person to ignore a crime. The Chief of Police is #1 on my Nextel lol.

This guy has got to either..
1. Just come to Florida and turn himself in...and/or
2. Get good long distance or buy a calling card and start calling to find out the answers to his questions.

Man, if you have a country wide warrant, one of these days if or when you get pulled over again, the cop may not say "you have a warrant for your arrest in Florida, you should take care of it", he may say, "let's take care of it now", then what?
 

cyberfreak95

Junior Member
parrotmom said:
Of course it's not....I'm last the last person to ignore a crime. The Chief of Police is #1 on my Nextel lol.

This guy has got to either..
1. Just come to Florida and turn himself in...and/or
2. Get good long distance or buy a calling card and start calling to find out the answers to his questions.

Man, if you have a country wide warrant, one of these days if or when you get pulled over again, the cop may not say "you have a warrant for your arrest in Florida, you should take care of it", he may say, "let's take care of it now", then what?
That thought has occurred to me, but in the future I will be better financially poised to deal with it. Right now I don't really want to spend 10k on a lawyer, but once the kids are older and our house is paid off in a few years it will be easier to deal with, plus if jail time is a requirement I can just do it - where right now it would really hurt my family and career.
 

Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
cyberfreak95 said:
There is a warrant out, and every time I get pulled over the police officer kindly tells me "You have a warrant for your arrest in FL, you should really get that taken care of".

Florida obviously does not want to extradite me, but from the way they casually said it they made it sound like I could fill out a form, pay some money, and all would be better.

I know I did a bad thing 10 years ago, and to this point all I have seen is conjecture. Does anyone actually KNOW the law in FL?

They were initially going to let me go with some community service and a fine but being the dumb kid I was I thought it would be better to leave. I really don't see how justice would be served by throwing a hard working tax payer in jail, instead of allowing me to clear it up through other means.

Plus, if I just stay away from FL I will be fine - but I am trying to find out how I can get this fixed without throwing my life away.

I figure if I just get a high priced lawyer they can probably take care of it for me, but I though if it was as simple as a fine I could do it myself.

Every time you get pulled over???? :rolleyes:
 
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Obnoxious1

Guest
Obnoxious1 said:
What do you think would happen to our society if we let the criminals decide their punishment? Suppose we let them pick and chose from what was ordered and just pretend it isn't any big deal?

Is that the world you want your children to grow up in?
I'm just curious why you ignored this?
 

cyberfreak95

Junior Member
--PARIDISE-- said:
Every time you get pulled over???? :rolleyes:

Yeah, yeah well I didn't say I was a SAINT and it has been 10 years :D

But, I have lived in several different states (not because of this, because of my job) and I have been pulled over at least once in each and the police always told me the same thing. Interestingly enough, they were always VERY polite about it. One officer even asked me to get out of the car so the people in the car wouldn't hear him tell me about the warrant.

That's why I don't think this is that big of a deal, I figure if they thought it was bad they wouldn't be so polite.

It doesn't show up on background checks (standard ones anyway - obviously law enforcement can see it) and the only time I ever hear about it is when I get pulled over, and once the officer didn't even mention it!
 

cyberfreak95

Junior Member
Obnoxious1 said:
What do you think would happen to our society if we let the criminals decide their punishment? Suppose we let them pick and chose from what was ordered and just pretend it isn't any big deal?

Is that the world you want your children to grow up in?
Well, our legal system would fail. I am not asking that the state just forget about the crime, I am asking for something that would benefit everyone. The original sentence was $600 and 80 hours of community service. If they told me that's all I had to do to clear it up, I would do it (assuming I can do the community service where I live now). If they told me I had to triple that, I would do it.

My point is just throwing me in jail would be a tremendous waste of money and resources to the state, and by not having me picked up they are obviously saying that it's not worth their money. Doesn't it make more sense to do something where society gets repaid and I don't have to throw away what I have worked for?
 
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Obnoxious1

Guest
cyberfreak95 said:
Well, our legal system would fail. I am not asking that the state just forget about the crime, I am asking for something that would benefit everyone. The original sentence was $600 and 80 hours of community service. If they told me that's all I had to do to clear it up, I would do it (assuming I can do the community service where I live now). If they told me I had to triple that, I would do it.

My point is just throwing me in jail would be a tremendous waste of money and resources to the state, and by not having me picked up they are obviously saying that it's not worth their money. Doesn't it make more sense to do something where society gets repaid and I don't have to throw away what I have worked for?
Your post doesn't sit well with me because you still aren't seeing it. If we don't stiffen the punishments when people run what would keep everyone from running?

I do understand that you don't want to go to jail, I wouldn't want to either. Would you allow a pedophile to dictate his or her own proper punishment? Suppose that person runs, would you think it was pretty cool that they will not be punished any more? I'm wondering if you don't see it because you don't think your crime too bad?

You talked of this not being a convenient time for you but did you consider the timing of the person who you robbed? Maybe they would have been okay with your actions if you had waited until their house was paid off or their children were grown. Why should you deserve a courtesy that you were unwilling to show?

It isn't anything personal with me, I don't know you at at all I just get slightly annoyed by criminals who justify their crimes and why they feel they should not be punished.
 

cyberfreak95

Junior Member
Obnoxious1 said:
Your post doesn't sit well with me because you still aren't seeing it. If we don't stiffen the punishments when people run what would keep everyone from running?

I do understand that you don't want to go to jail, I wouldn't want to either. Would you allow a pedophile to dictate his or her own proper punishment? Suppose that person runs, would you think it was pretty cool that they will not be punished any more? I'm wondering if you don't see it because you don't think your crime too bad?

You talked of this not being a convenient time for you but did you consider the timing of the person who you robbed? Maybe they would have been okay with your actions if you had waited until their house was paid off or their children were grown. Why should you deserve a courtesy that you were unwilling to show?

It isn't anything personal with me, I don't know you at at all I just get slightly annoyed by criminals who justify their crimes and why they feel they should not be punished.
I understand. Well, the crime WASN'T that bad. I can't believe you would compare a shoplifter to a child molester (you are saying that a crime is a crime no matter what the crime right?). Well, all crimes are NOT equal. Some deserve harsh punishment and some don't. The person I robbed got everything back and then didn't even bother to show at the deposition. They didn't care. Now if I went in there with a gun blazing, I could understand.
 
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Obnoxious1

Guest
cyberfreak95 said:
I understand. Well, the crime WASN'T that bad. I can't believe you would compare a shoplifter to a child molester (you are saying that a crime is a crime no matter what the crime right?). Well, all crimes are NOT equal. Some deserve harsh punishment and some don't. The person I robbed got everything back and then didn't even bother to show at the deposition. They didn't care. Now if I went in there with a gun blazing, I could understand.
I wasn't comparing the crime, I was asking you why you think you should be able to ignore your punishment until it is convenient for you. I doubt that you would look at any other criminal and say that you understand them fleeing from justice because the timing is bad or it might upset their life.

You committed a crime and what you received was a light punishment. Instead of doing the right thing then you decided to not be bothered with it.

When is it a good time to go to jail? What crimes should we allow criminals to dictate their own punishment? Why are you so special that the rules should not apply to you?

You keep saying that you would IF...if only it was easy, if only it was convenient, if only they would punish you in a way that doesn't disrupt your life. Do you really understand what you are asking of society?
 

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