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15yo, soon to be 16yo brother from KY wants to live with us in CT.

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LdiJ

Senior Member
I turned to this forum for help, as I really didn't know what to do. THANK YOU to those that were genuinely helpful. For those of you who are just looking to make a joke out of a situation, and be disrespectful, you may want to consider your role on this forum. Maybe consider joining a teen chat room.
No one here has made a joke out of this situation at all. Everyone here has been attempting to stop you from getting yourself into potentially very serious trouble.

This is not a joking matter. You don't have any rights to the child and if you keep the child it is the equivalent of kidnapping.
 


dgasp

Junior Member
Oh, so now you transported a run-away across state lines. Fantastic
Not at all. She agreed to the visit, and was there when I picked him up. She even said goodbye to him, and to have a good time. Why is everyone so judgmental here? Just because she and I don't talk, doesn't mean that I didn't get her permission to drive all the way to KY to pick up my brother for a visit. That is all it was planned to be, was a visit. He then asked me to stay. He is now saying that if he has to go back there, that he is going to run away. I feel so helpless in making his life a good one, and all several of you can do is judge me?
 

TheGeekess

Keeper of the Kraken
Unfortunately, I didn't realize the living conditions were that bad, until we were able to spend some time with him. I just want what is best for him, and I really don't believe it is with her.
What you think/feel/believe has no basis in legal reality. You'd best be packing Brother up to return him home. :cool:
 

dgasp

Junior Member
No one here has made a joke out of this situation at all. Everyone here has been attempting to stop you from getting yourself into potentially very serious trouble.

This is not a joking matter. You don't have any rights to the child and if you keep the child it is the equivalent of kidnapping.
I was referring particular to the one calling me sackless for not calling my mother on my brothers behalf. The majority of your comments have been very helpful, and I appreciate what you have all said. We will be returning him, and trying to do this the proper way. I just didn't want to have to put him back in that situation, if he didn't have to.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Not at all. She agreed to the visit, and was there when I picked him up. She even said goodbye to him, and to have a good time. Why is everyone so judgmental here? Just because she and I don't talk, doesn't mean that I didn't get her permission to drive all the way to KY to pick up my brother for a visit. That is all it was planned to be, was a visit. He then asked me to stay. He is now saying that if he has to go back there, that he is going to run away. I feel so helpless in making his life a good one, and all several of you can do is judge me?
Then you misrepresented the situation. You said you haven't talked to her in years. You did talk to her if she agreed to the visit. Judging you? We are warning you that you can go to PRISON because you would be committing a felony -- and being across state lines can make it a federal crime. RETURN the child. You seem to refuse to be realistic and want to learn the law. You don't seem able to prove mom is unfit and you haven't mentioned dad. And you would need to serve them both and prove them both unfit in order to get to a best interests determination of whether your brother should be with you. And your brother is not showing the maturity necessary to have much weight given to his opinion.

As for threatening to run away, he can then end up being locked in juvenile detention for being incorrigible.
 

dgasp

Junior Member
If your brother is so mature and capable, why hasn't he given the dog a bath? Cleaned the house? Done something other than running away (which quite frankly can find him being placed in juvenile detention)? Why hasn't he acted mature? Why hasn't he been capable?
Are you serious? You are going to blame him for the living conditions he is in? He tries to take care of the dog. He has no money, nor will she give him any to buy the dog flea bath. He is the only one that cleans that house, makes dinner, if there is anything for him to make, and takes care of himself. Meanwhile, being told that he is the reason her life is ****, and that if he wasn't born her life would be better. She is a bipolar schizophrenic. She has issues...always has, which is why we don't speak. She used to be really good to him, and I assumed that hadn't changed. Now that I have gotten to spend some time with him, I realize that as he has gotten older, she is now doing to him, the same things she used to do to me. He doesn't want to go back, now that he realizes that we do not act that way. He is rightfully upset, and is acting out, by saying that he will run away. I don't understand why you would blame the victim in this situation. What is wrong with you?
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I'm sorry, but you apparently don't want legally accurate information. Instead, you want people to assist you in your criminal endeavor.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Are you serious? You are going to blame him for the living conditions he is in? He tries to take care of the dog. He has no money, nor will she give him any to buy the dog flea bath. He is the only one that cleans that house, makes dinner, if there is anything for him to make, and takes care of himself. Meanwhile, being told that he is the reason her life is ****, and that if he wasn't born her life would be better. She is a bipolar schizophrenic. She has issues...always has, which is why we don't speak. She used to be really good to him, and I assumed that hadn't changed. Now that I have gotten to spend some time with him, I realize that as he has gotten older, she is now doing to him, the same things she used to do to me. He doesn't want to go back, now that he realizes that we do not act that way. He is rightfully upset, and is acting out, by saying that he will run away. I don't understand why you would blame the victim in this situation. What is wrong with you?
I know the law and the court system. You don't. Threatening to runaway is a JUVENILE response. End of story. What is wrong with you? She has issues and yet she has managed to raise your brother without you being anywhere around and without checking in. She has managed to provide the basic necessities. She has managed to parent. Maybe not to your standards but guess what? She doesn't have to live up to your standards.
 
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Silverplum

Senior Member
Are you serious? You are going to blame him for the living conditions he is in? He tries to take care of the dog. He has no money, nor will she give him any to buy the dog flea bath. He is the only one that cleans that house, makes dinner, if there is anything for him to make, and takes care of himself. Meanwhile, being told that he is the reason her life is ****, and that if he wasn't born her life would be better. She is a bipolar schizophrenic. She has issues...always has, which is why we don't speak. She used to be really good to him, and I assumed that hadn't changed. Now that I have gotten to spend some time with him, I realize that as he has gotten older, she is now doing to him, the same things she used to do to me. He doesn't want to go back, now that he realizes that we do not act that way. He is rightfully upset, and is acting out, by saying that he will run away. I don't understand why you would blame the victim in this situation. What is wrong with you?
I don't understand why you are believing everything you hear from a 15 year old.
 

Eekamouse

Senior Member
And how much of this is him playing you two against each other? Didn't you go inside her house when you picked him up? Did you not notice the deplorable conditions?
 

dgasp

Junior Member
I know the law and the court system. You don't. Threatening to runaway is a JUVENILE response. End of story. What is wrong with you? She has issues and yet she has managed to raise your brother without you being anywhere around and without checking in. She has managed to provide the basic necessities. She has managed to parent. Maybe not to your standards but guess what? She doesn't have to live up to your standards.
I am trying here. I become very defensive, because he is my little brother, and I want him to have better than I had. She left CT, and ran to KY because she was having too many problems with DCF. I do not have the means to travel to KY to see him, as much as that pains me. His father is an over the road truck driver, and has very little to do with him. She has made it very difficult for him to see my brother, and does her best to turn my brother against him, and he hasn't fought that hard to correct it, either. He does pay child support, which is her only income, so I believe that is why she is trying to hold on to him. I still have contact with him, even though he isn't my biological father, and he doesn't have the means to take care of a child, and openly admits that. He has said that he wants me to take him, many times, because of the way that she is. I always assumed that he was just trying to be a vindictive ex-husband. I now see that maybe he was right.

Look, I have heard the advice of those that offered true advice. I am going to return him, and try to go through the proper channels.

If we try to file for guardianship, being that he is 15, will the courts take what he wants into consideration? Do I have to file for this is KY, or CT? I cannot afford a lawyer, can I do this myself by mail, or do I have to do this all in person, in KY? I need real help. I don't want to keep arguing with this forum, but I need actual, non-judgmental, real help.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I am trying here. I become very defensive, because he is my little brother, and I want him to have better than I had. She left CT, and ran to KY because she was having too many problems with DCF. I do not have the means to travel to KY to see him, as much as that pains me. His father is an over the road truck driver, and has very little to do with him. She has made it very difficult for him to see my brother, and does her best to turn my brother against him, and he hasn't fought that hard to correct it, either. He does pay child support, which is her only income, so I believe that is why she is trying to hold on to him. I still have contact with him, even though he isn't my biological father, and he doesn't have the means to take care of a child, and openly admits that. He has said that he wants me to take him, many times, because of the way that she is. I always assumed that he was just trying to be a vindictive ex-husband. I now see that maybe he was right.

Look, I have heard the advice of those that offered true advice. I am going to return him, and try to go through the proper channels.

If we try to file for guardianship, being that he is 15, will the courts take what he wants into consideration? Do I have to file for this is KY, or CT? I cannot afford a lawyer, can I do this myself by mail, or do I have to do this all in person, in KY? I need real help. I don't want to keep arguing with this forum, but I need actual, non-judgmental, real help.
Again, you are committing a criminal act. Return the child to his mother.
 

dgasp

Junior Member
And how much of this is him playing you two against each other? Didn't you go inside her house when you picked him up? Did you not notice the deplorable conditions?
I didn't go in. She and I do not get along. We don't speak, and what communication we do have is by text only. We literally drove 12 hours, picked him up, and turned right back around to CT. I do know that we had to treat our cat, because he suddenly did have fleas, and I believe it came from my brothers bag, (although I wont tell him that, since I do not want to make him feel badly.) And I did see their dog. It can barely walk and parts of his ears are missing and raw.
 

Silverplum

Senior Member
I am trying here. I become very defensive, because he is my little brother, and I want him to have better than I had. She left CT, and ran to KY because she was having too many problems with DCF. I do not have the means to travel to KY to see him, as much as that pains me. His father is an over the road truck driver, and has very little to do with him. She has made it very difficult for him to see my brother, and does her best to turn my brother against him, and he hasn't fought that hard to correct it, either. He does pay child support, which is her only income, so I believe that is why she is trying to hold on to him. I still have contact with him, even though he isn't my biological father, and he doesn't have the means to take care of a child, and openly admits that. He has said that he wants me to take him, many times, because of the way that she is. I always assumed that he was just trying to be a vindictive ex-husband. I now see that maybe he was right.

Look, I have heard the advice of those that offered true advice. I am going to return him, and try to go through the proper channels.

If we try to file for guardianship, being that he is 15, will the courts take what he wants into consideration? Do I have to file for this is KY, or CT? I cannot afford a lawyer, can I do this myself by mail, or do I have to do this all in person, in KY? I need real help. I don't want to keep arguing with this forum, but I need actual, non-judgmental, real help.
I don't know why you're so freaked out, nor calling the nice volunteer advisors "judgemental." :rolleyes:

You've been told: it's a KY case. See here: http://www.kyjustice.org/node/1235

If you were a judge, do you think you would give custody to a person via mail?
 

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