3 counts of Inducing panic

[cbg]

Okay, we'll get out the violins for you. But it will not change the law, or or the consequences of breaking it.

 

[danceswithwords]

i wasn't expecting it to...

 

[CSO286]

no, never had a car, all my friends except 1, my band that i worked hard to maintain, my parents suck, ones an ex-alchoholic thats all to familiar with everything im getting into, the other could give less a ****, I can't say ive had it any more rough than anyone else, but at the time, I almost killed myself...

So, you still had a close friend and parents who cared about you. Just sounds like you had a big fight with other friends.

You did not lose

literally everything a 17 year old can lose.

I had a classmate whose parents and younger sibling were killed in an auto accident in the spring of her junior year. She then had to relocate to relatives six states away. She lost everything a 17 year old can lose (you know, back before everyone could webcam and IM alllllll the time). Not you.

 

[danceswithwords]

i might as well have lost them. They don't care, they sit and laugh at me, To be honest, i might as well have just hung myself when i was going to before

 

[mistoffolees]

Yeah, i understand that, What if I was literally depressed, Had problems with everything at the time of happening. I mean I lost literally everything a 17 year old can lose.

Sorry, but that's not an excuse. You can't expect it to be OK that you committed a felony because you had a fight with your friends.

i might as well have lost them. They don't care, they sit and laugh at me, To be honest, i might as well have just hung myself when i was going to before

If you're serious, you need to call the suicide helpline.

Or stop being a drama queen.

 

[danceswithwords]

it wasn't about that, that happened after this, another fact is, it took them 4 months, and now ive been in processing for another month, i Don't care about my friends, and no im not afraid of dieing... and i guess i dont care if i get the 24 years, i was just wondering if thats an option... even as a juvenile

 

[Antigone*]

it wasn't about that, that happened after this, another fact is, it took them 4 months, and now ive been in processing for another month, i Don't care about my friends, and no im not afraid of dieing... and i guess i dont care if i get the 24 years, i was just wondering if thats an option... even as a juvenile

Hey, glass half full. You can probably get some very good writing lessons in your 6 x 9

 

[danceswithwords]

haha i guess it was a bad idea to even ask, either way i'm ****ed

 

[Zigner]

...you committed a felony...

Three of them.

 

[CSO286]

haha i guess it was a bad idea to even ask, either way i'm ****ed

You cna certainly throw yourself on the mercy of the court.

In the meantime, talk to your attorney and see what he/she thinks you may get. See if there's any way to plead it down...

Oh, and do get some treatment from a competent mental health care provider, hmm?

 

[cyjeff]

Op... most of us are parents and, therefore, immune to the "if you insist on punishing me for what I have actually done I will just kill myself" rant.

We were all 17 as well. My first love slept with my best friend on prom night. While it turned out they deserved each other, I didn't go out and commit several felonies to commemorate the occasion.

If you start playing this "I am suicidal" thing in court, be prepared to be spending the next 72 hours in a suicide watch....which will make jail look pretty good.

 

[stealth2]

In all honesty, no one can tell you what you may or may not get because we don't know what actually occurred. Your lawyer is the best person to ask, and he really IS the only one you should be discussing this with.

As for threatening suicide... It really puts people in a tough situation. No one wants to be the one who missed a sincere threat. But... there is also the risk of being "the child who cried wolf". If you're threatening it for attention or to get out of consequences of your actions... you may find that, when/if you are actually serious? No one will take notice. Sadly, that may also spill over to other kids who may be legitimately suicidal. How would you feel if people ignored a kid who really did commit suicide because you cried wolf one too many times?

 

[whyhope-com]

Inducing Panic appears to be abused law in Ohio

I was charged myself with Inducing Panic in Ohio due to what now felony convicted famous lawyer Scott W. Spencer had been harassing me, telling dozens of people, that I was a dangerous criminal out to kill his peers, and other lies plus evidence he fabricated to illegally win a 2001 Marion, Ohio, court case against me for the National Jaycees who he convinced that I was found guilty in criminal cases which he had made up to be popular.

Part of the inducing panic charge was my protesting being called a killer and I wrote about shooting from the hip. It turns out we have many cops who know very little about expressions and they feel their life is in danger if they hear anything new which sounds like a threat. However it is odd that lawmen can in effect induce panic and claim it was necessary as part of their job even if it was a stupid mistake like a 17 year old might make. So I do have complaints that the law is being abused.

If a person is charged with inducing panic as a result of being harassed, threatened, illegally blackmailed and/or handicaps and/or mental health problems then it seems reasonable that the charges be considered not valid. However I actually had my own lawyer email an admission that he lied to me, got me off by claiming that I was nuts, and knowingly ignored if I was a victim of crime myself. In fact this lawyer wrote that I should not claim that I was a victim of crime unless someone was convicted of a crime against me. So, by his logic, I should not report a possible crime unless the suspect was first convicted or some such mind blowing logic.

Getting a lawyer is reasonable but I suggest finding additional support to help warn you if your lawyer does not seem to be doing their job as required by law. Since many lawyers profit from problems with the legal system itself like dishonest cops, etc., you may discover that it is rare for a lawyer to honesty verify if you were a victim of illegal conduct by other people, etc. They make money no matter what happens. However they might make more money if they give you reasons to trust them versus my last lawyer who blew my mind emailing me that he was basically ineffective counsel.

On the positive side, I learned a lot about how the legal system actually works and trust myself more than I trust most lawyers. If only Lincoln was still alive and willing to be my lawyer. He may have had some issues himself but I will take a man willing to consider consequences over one who fails to verify facts like my last lawyer.

 

[Zigner]

I was charged myself with Inducing Panic in Ohio due to what now felony convicted famous lawyer Scott W. Spencer had been harassing me, telling dozens of people, that I was a dangerous criminal out to kill his peers, and other lies plus evidence he fabricated to illegally win a 2001 Marion, Ohio, court case against me for the National Jaycees who he convinced that I was found guilty in criminal cases which he had made up to be popular.

Part of the inducing panic charge was my protesting being called a killer and I wrote about shooting from the hip. It turns out we have many cops who know very little about expressions and they feel their life is in danger if they hear anything new which sounds like a threat. However it is odd that lawmen can in effect induce panic and claim it was necessary as part of their job even if it was a stupid mistake like a 17 year old might make. So I do have complaints that the law is being abused.

If a person is charged with inducing panic as a result of being harassed, threatened, illegally blackmailed and/or handicaps and/or mental health problems then it seems reasonable that the charges be considered not valid. However I actually had my own lawyer email an admission that he lied to me, got me off by claiming that I was nuts, and knowingly ignored if I was a victim of crime myself. In fact this lawyer wrote that I should not claim that I was a victim of crime unless someone was convicted of a crime against me. So, by his logic, I should not report a possible crime unless the suspect was first convicted or some such mind blowing logic.

Getting a lawyer is reasonable but I suggest finding additional support to help warn you if your lawyer does not seem to be doing their job as required by law. Since many lawyers profit from problems with the legal system itself like dishonest cops, etc., you may discover that it is rare for a lawyer to honesty verify if you were a victim of illegal conduct by other people, etc. They make money no matter what happens. However they might make more money if they give you reasons to trust them versus my last lawyer who blew my mind emailing me that he was basically ineffective counsel.

On the positive side, I learned a lot about how the legal system actually works and trust myself more than I trust most lawyers. If only Lincoln was still alive and willing to be my lawyer. He may have had some issues himself but I will take a man willing to consider consequences over one who fails to verify facts like my last lawyer.

This thread is nearly five years old. Please don't post years old threads.

 

[Silverplum]

Check cbg's post #16 on this page: she covered it.