awol iraqi freedom veteran

[Let the DJ try]

Yellowcard - A.w.o.l. lyrics



Maybe it's not over yet
Somewhere inside him there must be some
New dream awaiting to topple the rest
When he finds himself
Feeling alive yet alone
Maybe the best he can get is still out of his
reach

Ran from the life that he hates
Hoping to find some new beginning
Abandoned the future they gave and
Took away knowing what they would say

Destined to rise above all of the
Simplified answers they gave him
Back there when surrounded by
Love he could not make sense
Of feeling alive yet alone
Maybe the best he can get is
Simply burned by fate

Yet he knows he's the champion of the planet
But he's told he was wrong for somehow deciding
to...

 

[misledyouth]

PARADISE: Im getting a general discharge, dude! Wonder how long it will be until I get it upgraded? You have recieved an E for effort in your flame attempt. A valiant try though I must say. Try wording your responses into well organized arguments insted of poorly written accusations on what you think my future holds. I guarantee (and obviously proven) I am quite more intelligent than some random jackass you try to defame on these message boards. I'm done responding to your idiotic comments/ideas. Consider yourself owned and ignored. Thanks for wasting your time!

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

(QUOTE)Consider yourself owned and ignored.(QUOTE)

I must warn you I have very high standards and must decline your offer of owning me.

I do however look forward to you ignoring me.

 

[Jillian483]

Yes

You are awol plain and simple. When you either turn yourself in or are arrested you will be court martialed. You will be put in prison immediately. your best bet is to tell them that you wigged out and left. I don't really know what else you are asking. Were you asking if you were awol? Yes you were. What are your chances? I hate to break it to you bud but you chose a really bad time to go awol. This is a time of war and your job in the army is specifically for the purpose of fighting. Call the VA hospital and explain your situation to them. You WILL lose your courtmartial. The only thing that I can think of that might help you is do some extensive research into mental disorders and make like you have one. this however would be quite spineless and I think you should just stand up for your actions. You know what? I am a girl and I went to Irag, Saudi AND Afganistan. I saw people dying. **** I saw some really bad stuff there. Hell yeah I have really bad nightmares. Sure I am certain that I will probably have them for the rest of my life. Yeah it sucked being there. You wanna know what the difference was between you and me? I have a pair. I am one out of thousands of people that have been over there. I joined b4 sept 11. I had no warning what I was getting myself into. Oh well it was my job... I signed on the dotted line... and I delt with the consenquences of my decisions. Goddamn, I don't have enough fingers and toes on my body to tell you how many times I wanted to just get the hell out but I decided to not be a pussy. They will find you no matter if it is today next year or when you are 60 and by god I hope you get what is coming to you.

 

[Jillian483]

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Oh and another thing.. don't discrase the word by calling yourself a veteran. The word you were looking for was deserter or spinless twit.

 

[Jillian483]

holy ****

I am going to tear this apart one step at a time....
AWOLSCOUT: "here i am and always be a hero to my family and county oh yeah and most of the cops around here know im awol having a civilian record like mine helps you"
Oh yeah, you seem really proud about being a hero! When the **** were you a hero? You were UP for a bronze medal. You DID NOT get it. Maybe the people saw that you were spinless and decided it would be better served to someone who cared.
AWOLSCOUT: "....the army cares for their VOLUNTEER soldiers"
Yeah well it means nothing to be a volunteer to just back out when your country needs you the most. In my opinion you should have stopped being such a pussy. It is called a mental disorder for a reason. You can overcome it, you just didn't want to. You would rather go and hide.

And to MISLEDYOUTH: Real combat huh? Yeah I was in real combat. If I could have gotten out there and fought I would have done it. Hell even with that said, I have been shot 2x and am sure that I killed a fair share of prople when I shot back. You HAD fellow soldiers but you gave them up when you went awol. You are nothing.

You know, my sister and I both post under this name and I am sad to say that she might have gotten shafted a bit in the military but you know what she at least stood there and took her punshment like a real soldier instead of running away. Even so, there are a lot of people that are out there every day busting their ass and living up to the word HERO. Don't ever think that if you go awol that you are a hero because OH POOR YOU had to go fight for your own country. I don't want to hear it. Go get some cheese for your whine. If you are stupid enough to post here then you had better be ready to take some heat for your stupid actions. You won't get any tears from me. I am proud to have served my country and if I haden't gotten cancer I would still be out there serving my country.

 

[lvn4ever]

awol iraqi veteran

Jillian483- i loved your comments, which carry WEIGHT because you were there and you did the job. Thanks.

All who have been following my posts re: "my" AWOL soldier. He turned himself into his assigned unit approx. 3 weeks ago after 4 months of hiding under a rock, eating ramen and hot dogs and generally living the life of the dog he is. The overzealous MPs shipped him to a central PCF to be outprocessed immediately. When JAG at his post heard, they were furious because they were ALL in favor of a courts martial. He got a nice high and tight at the PCF,did all his paper work and left there today with a fabulous DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE to frame and display proudly in his den. There were no outstanding aggravating circumstances. I say this to make the point that not everyone who goes AWOL, turns themselves in, etc etc, leaves with a slap on the wrist. If he had turned himself in on a reg. duty day, JAG would've smoked his behind with a courts martial. As it stands, he didn't get an admin or general discharge, as some posters and GI Hotline promise.but the REAL DEAL. To those who might read this who are considering goin AWOL, figure out another way to solve the problem! Its not a cakewalk. AWOL is generally for those who don't have the huevos and determinations to settle a problem by any means EXCEPT running away.

For the record, while I have read several stories on this site about AWOLS getting admin discharges etc, I can tell you about 1/2 as many stories to the contrary...soldiers being made to complete their contracts, being sent to courts martials, or being discharged with OTH. What I am all in favour of is telling the WHOLE STORY....

Going AWOL is NOTHING but trouble...if not today, then later in your life. If you are AWOL for political reasons, read something by Mahatma Ghandi or Nelson Mandala, two guys who didn't believe in the system and were really willing to stand up for what they believed was right. Neither of them fled their country......I shake my head when some of you say you are so brave and righteous and smart. Check these two men out as yardsticks of how to change a system. These guys were giants...which would make you, by comparison.......?

 

[Jillian483]

Jillian483- i loved your comments, which carry WEIGHT because you were there and you did the job. Thanks.

All who have been following my posts re: "my" AWOL soldier. He turned himself into his assigned unit approx. 3 weeks ago after 4 months of hiding under a rock, eating ramen and hot dogs and generally living the life of the dog he is. The overzealous MPs shipped him to a central PCF to be outprocessed immediately. When JAG at his post heard, they were furious because they were ALL in favor of a courts martial. He got a nice high and tight at the PCF,did all his paper work and left there today with a fabulous DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE to frame and display proudly in his den. There were no outstanding aggravating circumstances. I say this to make the point that not everyone who goes AWOL, turns themselves in, etc etc, leaves with a slap on the wrist. If he had turned himself in on a reg. duty day, JAG would've smoked his behind with a courts martial. As it stands, he didn't get an admin or general discharge, as some posters and GI Hotline promise.but the REAL DEAL. To those who might read this who are considering goin AWOL, figure out another way to solve the problem! Its not a cakewalk. AWOL is generally for those who don't have the huevos and determinations to settle a problem by any means EXCEPT running away.

For the record, while I have read several stories on this site about AWOLS getting admin discharges etc, I can tell you about 1/2 as many stories to the contrary...soldiers being made to complete their contracts, being sent to courts martials, or being discharged with OTH. What I am all in favour of is telling the WHOLE STORY....

Going AWOL is NOTHING but trouble...if not today, then later in your life. If you are AWOL for political reasons, read something by Mahatma Ghandi or Nelson Mandala, two guys who didn't believe in the system and were really willing to stand up for what they believed was right. Neither of them fled their country......I shake my head when some of you say you are so brave and righteous and smart. Check these two men out as yardsticks of how to change a system. These guys were giants...which would make you, by comparison.......?

HERE HERE!!!! loved your post and GOOD I am glad the your troop got a dishonorable discharge. It will be a good thing to reming him for the rest of his life what a coward he is. He will get to remember it everytime that he can't get a job because he deserted his country in a time of need.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

Heres some more food for thought for Misledyouth who is trying to convince himself of a general discharge,( OTH).


According to the Uniform Code For Military Justice, if a soldier goes
AWOL for 30 days, the government changes the status to desertion. Both
are violations under the code.

When the status is changed to desertion, according to the code, the
military contacts family members and issues an arrest warrant to all
of the law enforcement agencies in the United States. If police then
stop the
individual, he/she will be arrested and returned to military control.

An AWOL soldier, under article 86 of the Uniform Code For Military
Justice, faces a maximum punishment of "a dishonorable discharge,
forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement at hard labor
for 18 months."

Article 85 of the code, dealing with desertion, establishes that "the
maximum punishment is a dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay
and allowances, and confinement at hard labor for three years. In
times of war, the maximum punishment for desertion is death by lethal
injection."

Have fun digesting that.

 

[Jillian483]

Heres some more food for thought for Misledyouth who is trying to convince himself of a general discharge,( OTH).


According to the Uniform Code For Military Justice, if a soldier goes
AWOL for 30 days, the government changes the status to desertion. Both
are violations under the code.

When the status is changed to desertion, according to the code, the
military contacts family members and issues an arrest warrant to all
of the law enforcement agencies in the United States. If police then
stop the
individual, he/she will be arrested and returned to military control.

An AWOL soldier, under article 86 of the Uniform Code For Military
Justice, faces a maximum punishment of "a dishonorable discharge,
forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement at hard labor
for 18 months."

Article 85 of the code, dealing with desertion, establishes that "the
maximum punishment is a dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay
and allowances, and confinement at hard labor for three years. In
times of war, the maximum punishment for desertion is death by lethal
injection."

Have fun digesting that.

Not that he will likely get the injection, that is why I was saying that he picked a really bad time to go awol.

 

[misledyouth]

Once again you know nothing about what you are talking about. In most cases to really be charged as a deserter your unit has to be DEPLOYED and in COMBAT. You go AWOL then while they are getting screwed in the field, then yes a whole world of hurt is coming your way. BUT, when your unit is doing nothing and you go AWOL you are considered what is known as an administrative deserter. Pretty much meaning that you didn't commit an offence bad enough for the US Army to have an entire court martial case over. And as a side note, about me convincing myself of what's going to happen. I already know, cause its in writing and I've seen it. Go scavenge some more info you just briefly scan through and cut/paste it before you know **** about it! I would love to continue to make you look stupid. By the way, Army policy changes day to day. If your trying to get accurate information without being in the service and just scanning docs on google or where ever, your going to continue to be putting out misleading information. Jillian483: Is the carpet under George Bush's desk nice? Sounds like its familiar territory. Your right, I am nothing. To the Army! Have fun on your next deployment Sgt. HOOAH. And always remember, Stay alert, stay alive. But I'm sure those two rounds you took ingraved that into your thick, overly patriotic skull. Got shot two times eh? Sounds like bull**** to me. What caliber and where were you shot? Im quite curious as to how your still alive/still in the service if you took two 7.62's anywhere really. And then maning up to return fire after you have been wounded. Wow, what ranger/SF Bn. did you roll out of?

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

Once again you know nothing about what you are talking about. In most cases to really be charged as a deserter your unit has to be DEPLOYED and in COMBAT. You go AWOL then while they are getting screwed in the field, then yes a whole world of hurt is coming your way. BUT, when your unit is doing nothing and you go AWOL you are considered what is known as an administrative deserter. Pretty much meaning that you didn't commit an offence bad enough for the US Army to have an entire court martial case over.Your a nut job. PROVE what I said wrong. Dig out the military codes and let's see what you got? I know exactly what I am talking about.

And as a side note, about me convincing myself of what's going to happen. I already know, cause its in writing and I've seen it. I don't believe your getting a general, not for a second.

Go scavenge some more info you just briefly scan through and cut/paste it before you know **** about it!PROVE me wrong idiot.

I would love to continue to make you look stupid.You never did and you can't.

By the way, Army policy changes day to day. No it doesn't.

If your trying to get accurate information without being in the service and just scanning docs on google or where ever, your going to continue to be putting out misleading information. It's not misleading, I stated the codes. The codes are accurate. Your messing with someone with far more experience with military regs, and laws than you have. You only know of some because your being charged with them.

I'll let Jill finish you off. Now put the itty-bitty thing between your legs and waddle off.


PSST. Your looking more stupid with every post.

 

[Jillian483]

Once again you know nothing about what you are talking about. In most cases to really be charged as a deserter your unit has to be DEPLOYED and in COMBAT. You go AWOL then while they are getting screwed in the field, then yes a whole world of hurt is coming your way. BUT, when your unit is doing nothing and you go AWOL you are considered what is known as an administrative deserter. Pretty much meaning that you didn't commit an offence bad enough for the US Army to have an entire court martial case over. And as a side note, about me convincing myself of what's going to happen. I already know, cause its in writing and I've seen it. Go scavenge some more info you just briefly scan through and cut/paste it before you know **** about it! I would love to continue to make you look stupid. By the way, Army policy changes day to day. If your trying to get accurate information without being in the service and just scanning docs on google or where ever, your going to continue to be putting out misleading information. Jillian483: Is the carpet under George Bush's desk nice? Sounds like its familiar territory. Your right, I am nothing. To the Army! Have fun on your next deployment Sgt. HOOAH. And always remember, Stay alert, stay alive. But I'm sure those two rounds you took ingraved that into your thick, overly patriotic skull. Got shot two times eh? Sounds like bull**** to me. What caliber and where were you shot? Im quite curious as to how your still alive/still in the service if you took two 7.62's anywhere really. And then maning up to return fire after you have been wounded. Wow, what ranger/SF Bn. did you roll out of?

If you must know I got shot with with .233. Which if you know anything about ammo (and I do because I was a munitions specialist) is typically from a M16. I took one in my upper right sholder (and I have the casing and the scars to prove it mr sceptical) and another in my hip (I have the scar but no casing) I never shot back when I was shot because I was inside of my tent trying to sleep when we came under attack. I have however shoot back when people tried to raid our munitions storage pile (aka a bomb dump) in the middle of the the night while we were doing a build. Second of all I hate bush... voted for Kerry. But that did not stop me from doing my job. Third if you had read all of my post I got cancer and was discharged. Furthermore 7.62 ammo is typically used in a revolver and not likely to show up in combat unless you are looking at getting within 50 to 100 yards of your enemy. Why don't you stop acting like you know what you are talking about because you don't. If you knew anything about females in combat you would know that it is not allowed. The only reason that I even had a gun was because when they raided our (ok well I did have a gun (m16) but we never brought them because we had escorts and sp's guarding our sites. I only carried a handgun on me.) site a lot of our escort was taken by surprise so in order to save my own ass I took his weapon (after he was already down). Not only that but I carried his butt a pretty good distance just so that he would not get shot anymore than he was. Yes I know how to shoot and have nice awards (aka ribbons) to prove it. trust me if you were my troop I would not have even let you go to a combat zone. I would have made sure that your ass was discharged before you could have cost me or my troops our own lives.
Oh and just so you know, if your batallion ( or whatever name your branch of the service calls it) is deployable and you go awol after being informed that there is a deployment coming up then YES YOU ARE A DESERTER!!!! It is nice to know that you take such pride in knowing that you screwed your country and are getting a general discharge. Let me tell you something. Unless that is a general under honorable then it might as well be a dishonorabe because they both hold the same weight when you go and try to get a job.

 

[Jillian483]

Once again you know nothing about what you are talking about. In most cases to really be charged as a deserter your unit has to be DEPLOYED and in COMBAT. You go AWOL then while they are getting screwed in the field, then yes a whole world of hurt is coming your way. BUT, when your unit is doing nothing and you go AWOL you are considered what is known as an administrative deserter. Pretty much meaning that you didn't commit an offence bad enough for the US Army to have an entire court martial case over.Your a nut job. PROVE what I said wrong. Dig out the military codes and let's see what you got? I know exactly what I am talking about.

And as a side note, about me convincing myself of what's going to happen. I already know, cause its in writing and I've seen it. I don't believe your getting a general, not for a second.

Go scavenge some more info you just briefly scan through and cut/paste it before you know **** about it!PROVE me wrong idiot.

I would love to continue to make you look stupid.You never did and you can't.

By the way, Army policy changes day to day. No it doesn't.

If your trying to get accurate information without being in the service and just scanning docs on google or where ever, your going to continue to be putting out misleading information. It's not misleading, I stated the codes. The codes are accurate. Your messing with someone with far more experience with military regs, and laws than you have. You only know of some because your being charged with them.

I'll let Jill finish you off. Now put the itty-bitty thing between your legs and waddle off.


PSST. Your looking more stupid with every post.

HA HA! God he is such a dumb ass

 

[misledyouth]

Stop replying. You both have been ignored.