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misledyouth said:
Stop replying. You both have been ignored.
Oh the poor baby can't take the pressure of the real world? Aww how sad. Maybe he should have kept his stupid ass out of this forum. Are you going to go run away to escape your problems?? Are you upset because I proved you wrong? God I alomost feel bad and then i relized that would be a waste of my time. Thats okay you just go run away from your problems... we all know you can do that pretty good!
 


Shay-Pari'e

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Stop replying. You both have been ignored.[/QUOTE]

What an idiot stick, kid.....you don't give anyone orders, you need to be a real man with balls to try and do that.

You go on and on with your crap, directed at us and you give us an order to not reply? Your a whack job.

I don't believe your ignoring us. You stated before you were ignoring me, and you had to go and ruin my day when you didn't, so that makes you a liar also.

Own this>>>>>>>>>>Letter "L" on your forehead.


Please do yourself a favor and think twice before posting......You really are looking pathetic.
 
--PARIDISE-- said:
Stop replying. You both have been ignored.
What an idiot stick, kid.....you don't give anyone orders, you need to be a real man with balls to try and do that.

You go on and on with your crap, directed at us and you give us an order to not reply? Your a whack job.

I don't believe your ignoring us. You stated before you were ignoring me, and you had to go and ruin my day when you didn't, so that makes you a liar also.

Own this>>>>>>>>>>Letter "L" on your forehead.


Please do yourself a favor and think twice before posting......You really are looking pathetic.[/QUOTE]



You know what? I like how you think paradise. Logic always helps but for some reason the stupid people just don't get it.
 
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The only reason I am still using this site is because I am going to post a guide to help AWOL soldiers. This guide will be up to date and accurate and will be based on personal experience that I am currently going through now. I'll be leaving contact info for the people seeking help. After that I'm done with this rediculous forum. Flame away ladies. It's awsome seeing how worked up you get over a god damned post on a bad advice forum. It really does suck that this is the most popular forum for people seeking advice with military law. These people, reguardless of what they did or didn't do, deserve better than this.
 
misledyouth said:
The only reason I am still using this site is because I am going to post a guide to help AWOL soldiers. This guide will be up to date and accurate and will be based on personal experience that I am currently going through now. I'll be leaving contact info for the people seeking help. After that I'm done with this rediculous forum. Flame away ladies. It's awsome seeing how worked up you get over a god damned post on a bad advice forum. It really does suck that this is the most popular forum for people seeking advice with military law. These people, reguardless of what they did or didn't do, deserve better than this.

Would you like it better if everyone came here and praised the awol troops? I read a lot of these posts here (Jeesh Jill) and really there are only like 1 (maybe 2) helpful things of advice. Doesn't it seem kind of silly to start a guide on how to get away with going awol? It seems to make more sense to make a guide on places you can go to and people you can talk to to help you out to prevent you to go awol.
 

badapple40

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Without getting into the specifics, +30 days AWOL is guaranteed to be a "Other than honorable" discharge under all but the most exceptional of cases.

I'd like to see the full set of facts for the guy that got the honorable, because thats amazing.

If you are gone between 3 and 30 days, then you are not generally looking at any kind of discharge, but rather just an Article 15 or perhaps, if your command really hates you, a summary court-martial (Max. punishment under MCM is 6 months confinement, 2/3 forfeiture of pay for 6 months but NO punitive discharge).

After 30 days, it becomes a bad conduct discharge. You also run the potential of it being charged as desertion, which results in a dishonorable discharge.
 
--PARIDISE said:
I'm not going to tell you what he nor I do for a living, other than we make a good living.
Perhaps the correct question should be how much child support do you get from you ex while you sit at home on your butt all day? You obviously either don't have a job, and make all of your income from your new spouse and your ex or you sit at work and type on this post when you should be working.
 
Jillian483 said:
If you must know I got shot with with .233. Which if you know anything about ammo (and I do because I was a munitions specialist) is typically from a M16. I took one in my upper right sholder (and I have the casing and the scars to prove it mr sceptical) and another in my hip (I have the scar but no casing) I never shot back when I was shot because I was inside of my tent trying to sleep when we came under attack. I have however shoot back when people tried to raid our munitions storage pile (aka a bomb dump) in the middle of the the night while we were doing a build. Second of all I hate bush... voted for Kerry. But that did not stop me from doing my job. Third if you had read all of my post I got cancer and was discharged. Furthermore 7.62 ammo is typically used in a revolver and not likely to show up in combat unless you are looking at getting within 50 to 100 yards of your enemy. Why don't you stop acting like you know what you are talking about because you don't. If you knew anything about females in combat you would know that it is not allowed. The only reason that I even had a gun was because when they raided our (ok well I did have a gun (m16) but we never brought them because we had escorts and sp's guarding our sites. I only carried a handgun on me.) site a lot of our escort was taken by surprise so in order to save my own ass I took his weapon (after he was already down). Not only that but I carried his butt a pretty good distance just so that he would not get shot anymore than he was. Yes I know how to shoot and have nice awards (aka ribbons) to prove it. trust me if you were my troop I would not have even let you go to a combat zone. I would have made sure that your ass was discharged before you could have cost me or my troops our own lives.
Oh and just so you know, if your batallion ( or whatever name your branch of the service calls it) is deployable and you go awol after being informed that there is a deployment coming up then YES YOU ARE A DESERTER!!!! It is nice to know that you take such pride in knowing that you screwed your country and are getting a general discharge. Let me tell you something. Unless that is a general under honorable then it might as well be a dishonorabe because they both hold the same weight when you go and try to get a job.
actually 7.62 mm is commonly used in AK-47's,and the M 240B, and the M 240C. and yes .223 cal/5.56 mm NATO is typically used in m-16, m-4, and the M-249 saw. were you a victim of friendly fire???
 

Shay-Pari'e

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StpmomNchicago said:
Perhaps the correct question should be how much child support do you get from you ex while you sit at home on your butt all day? You obviously either don't have a job, and make all of your income from your new spouse and your ex or you sit at work and type on this post when you should be working.
Damb! You figured me out. I do sit on my ass all day, but I don't eat BonBon's. (They don't mix well with the beer). Unfortunetly none of the "X's" pay support, I couldn't locate the jerks.

Don't worry about my eight kids though, the welfare system supports them and I trade in the food stamps to get my beer and smokes. ;)
 

badapple40

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StpmomNchicago said:
Would you like it better if everyone came here and praised the awol troops? I read a lot of these posts here (Jeesh Jill) and really there are only like 1 (maybe 2) helpful things of advice. Doesn't it seem kind of silly to start a guide on how to get away with going awol? It seems to make more sense to make a guide on places you can go to and people you can talk to to help you out to prevent you to go awol.
As I've told several clients over the years, we try the facts of the cases before us, not as we would have them be. As for AWOL, there are a lot of reasons people go AWOL, but the point is, it is often best to just try and deal with the situation at hand rather than ridicule people or tell them they are going to burn. AWOL is pretty simple, you leave your unit with the intent to return.

There are aggravating factors under the MCM that equals greater punishment. For instance, if you are gone less than 3 days, its often a mild slap on the wrist. If you are gone less than 30 days, they can't give you a bad conduct discharge, and often impose extra duty, forfeit pay, and maybe a stripe or two. After 30 days, it gets really serious.

Thats AWOL in a nutshell. And the Army often allows Chapter 10 packages for AWOL +30 days, which results, almost always, in an other than honorable.

And I don't eat bon bons -- I practice law, and did for several years on active duty in the military (now as a reservist).
 
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