Child Support Question

[fairisfair]

OMG, you seem to have everything perfectly under control. So tell us, what is your reason for still being here???

Just to be sure that DAD can't get child support? Well, guess what, if he has the child for any length of time, there might very well be some programs that he would be eligible for to assist him with covering her needs during those times. it isn't going to be child support.

there are you done now???

 

[tigger22472]

In the eyes of my father, it is responsible. He is the one who has advised me not to go to court until I need to. He thinks it would be jumping the gun.

Well hum... let's see here.. can you make a right and moral decision on your own? Or did you screw that right up when you got pregnant while unprepared to face the consequences?

I could sit him down here and let him read every reply to my post that you guys have written about it being better to go to court now, and he still would say no.

How old are you? YOU are responsible for YOUR child!

Especially because, he would be the one paying the court fees.

Not necessarily. Have you even looked into child support services? Have you spoken to a welfare worker about your options?

So NO it is not worth going to court over right now. Not until I alone can afford it, and not until I absolutely need it.

YOUR child need it! Whether your parents are worried about it or not is moot! They have NO legal obligation to raise or pay to raise your child. And it sounds like by them paying the bills you also give them the control to make decisions YOU should be making. That is what a RESPONSIBLE parent does!

Right now, it's not needed, and would just be more money out of his pocket because I do NOT have the means to pay for it myself.

Whatever, more excuses.. but I have my theory on this

Then of course someone is going to reply to this telling me to get a job. Well you know that would just put me back in the situation of needing to find someone to watch my daughter while I work and that's not something I"m going to do right now.

OMG.. Heaven forbid that your child be raised by a daycare professional... Hey, here's an idea... Maybe if you got a job and supported your child both of your parents wouldn't have to work and one of them could stay home with the child, then the child wouldn't be around 'strangers.' Oh wait.. that's not what YOU want!! This isn't about what you can and should be doing... this is all about the responsibility that YOU refuse to take.

Not when she's this young. I would rather never get child support and have to support her completely on my own, then to miss these first few months of her life.

Problem is YOU are NOT supporting your child! I see this as a case of NOT filing for any sort of court ordered support for one of two reasons:

1. Either you don't know for certain this is dad and a DNA test would be ordered and you would then be up the creek...

or

2. You fear that when you file for support he will file for custody and OMG that would give him rights to the child and take some of this control that you THINK that you have away...

 

[BelizeBreeze]

In the eyes of my father, it is responsible. He is the one who has advised me not to go to court until I need to. He thinks it would be jumping the gun. I could sit him down here and let him read every reply to my post that you guys have written about it being better to go to court now, and he still would say no. Especially because, he would be the one paying the court fees. So NO it is not worth going to court over right now. Not until I alone can afford it, and not until I absolutely need it. Right now, it's not needed, and would just be more money out of his pocket because I do NOT have the means to pay for it myself.

Then of course someone is going to reply to this telling me to get a job. Well you know that would just put me back in the situation of needing to find someone to watch my daughter while I work and that's not something I"m going to do right now. Not when she's this young. I would rather never get child support and have to support her completely on my own, then to miss these first few months of her life.

Your father is a bonefide idiot.

 

[haiku]

2. You fear that when you file for support he will file for custody and OMG that would give him rights to the child and take some of this control that you THINK that you have away...

DING DING DING!!!!!!

give that little lady a prize!!!!

 

[MrsK]

In the eyes of my father, it is responsible. He is the one who has advised me not to go to court until I need to. He thinks it would be jumping the gun. I could sit him down here and let him read every reply to my post that you guys have written about it being better to go to court now, and he still would say no. Especially because, he would be the one paying the court fees. So NO it is not worth going to court over right now. Not until I alone can afford it, and not until I absolutely need it. Right now, it's not needed, and would just be more money out of his pocket because I do NOT have the means to pay for it myself.

Then of course someone is going to reply to this telling me to get a job. Well you know that would just put me back in the situation of needing to find someone to watch my daughter while I work and that's not something I"m going to do right now. Not when she's this young. I would rather never get child support and have to support her completely on my own, then to miss these first few months of her life.

You know, it costs a whole $25 to file with SES. Just a thought.

The smart move would be to file through SES and try to get support from the father. And even smarter thing would be for you to work and suport your child as well. Its not your parents job to support you and that baby just because YOU made a big mistake (by mistake I mean getting pregnant before you were ready to support a child on your own).

 

[Gracie3787]

so he wouldn't go to jail for not paying CS if the court ordered it? Didn't know that. So then what are the penalties for not paying on time? As for what I'm doing to support my daughter? I'm giving her a good home environment, going to school, and breastfeeding. I have support from my family but he is still responsible. Maybe not through the courts eyes. Yes, I know that he doesn't have to pay me ONE CENT, why do you think I'm on here asking questions about child support? My child is happy and healthy and personally, him not paying me the agreed $150 a month on time is not worth going to court at the moment. I don't need the amount of money that the court is likely to set CS at right now and going for $150 is rediculous. What I am doing on here is asking questions about CS for the future when I've got my degree, move out and need money from him because my parents won't be helping anymore. As for what the judge would say, don't judges base their decisions based on prior case rulings that are similar situations? I thought that was so, that's why I'm asking.

You will not be going to court for only $150. Since both of you earn less than min wage the court will impute min wage incomes to both of you. For min wage the statutory amount of the base CS will be $190.00. Then, added to that would be approx. $35 per week for daycare. So, the amount that would be ordered would probably be around $340 per month.
Does that make a difference in your reasons for not wanting to get a court order now?

You should read the CS laws and guidelines at www.flsenate.gov/STATUTES chapter 61.

 

[IrishLady47]

In the eyes of my father, it is responsible. He is the one who has advised me not to go to court until I need to. He thinks it would be jumping the gun. I could sit him down here and let him read every reply to my post that you guys have written about it being better to go to court now, and he still would say no. Especially because, he would be the one paying the court fees. So NO it is not worth going to court over right now. Not until I alone can afford it, and not until I absolutely need it. Right now, it's not needed, and would just be more money out of his pocket because I do NOT have the means to pay for it myself.

Then of course someone is going to reply to this telling me to get a job. Well you know that would just put me back in the situation of needing to find someone to watch my daughter while I work and that's not something I"m going to do right now. Not when she's this young. I would rather never get child support and have to support her completely on my own, then to miss these first few months of her life.

It costs $25 to file for CS services from the Child Support Enforcement Office, FL DOR. And, whether you use CSE or a private attorney, it doesn't happen overnight, can take months. Obviously, both you and your father are making decisions w/o considering available resources and facts about how long it takes to establish CS and avenues to do so.

 

[stephgts]

Problem is YOU are NOT supporting your child! I see this as a case of NOT filing for any sort of court ordered support for one of two reasons:

1. Either you don't know for certain this is dad and a DNA test would be ordered and you would then be up the creek...

or

2. You fear that when you file for support he will file for custody and OMG that would give him rights to the child and take some of this control that you THINK that you have away...

Wrong and wrong again. Yes, heaven forbid I let a stranger raise my child. I gave birth to her, I'll do it myself. And as for my parents, THEY DO NOT WORK and their wish is for me to be here to raise her, not them. My dad is 56, mom 53 and dad retired in '99. They don't have to work and don't want to work, that includes taking physical care of my daughter. They are also aware that if they help me right now, which they want to, financially then I will less likely need them in the future. I'm not going after CS right now because IT IS NOT NEEDED right now. I'm not going to get aid from the government because it is NOT NEEDED EITHER. My parents opinion is NOT moot because I respect them and their wishes and happen to agree with them. AND AND AND as I said BEFORE If I went to school and to work I would NOT be able to afford the amount of childcare that I would need without help from the government. ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND if you want to look at a post that I posted a week or two ago, you would SEE that I try to get her father to see her MORE then what he likes to, which is one of our many fights. IF I do need CS in the future, then that is when I will go to court. My plan is to not even need CS, but for all I know my daughter my need the extra money so that's why I'm HERE asking QUESTIONS!

 

[stephgts]

You will not be going to court for only $150. Since both of you earn less than min wage the court will impute min wage incomes to both of you. For min wage the statutory amount of the base CS will be $190.00. Then, added to that would be approx. $35 per week for daycare. So, the amount that would be ordered would probably be around $340 per month.
Does that make a difference in your reasons for not wanting to get a court order now?

You should read the CS laws and guidelines at www.flsenate.gov/STATUTES chapter 61.

Actually, yes it does. Thank you for actually giving me some information that helped instead of bashing me. I will most definitely look into it.

 

[tigger22472]

Actually, yes it does. Thank you for actually giving me some information that helped instead of bashing me. I will most definitely look into it.

You got the point that you get the approximately $340.00 if YOU go and get a job and pay daycare right?

 

[tigger22472]

Wrong and wrong again. Yes, heaven forbid I let a stranger raise my child. I gave birth to her, I'll do it myself. And as for my parents, THEY DO NOT WORK and their wish is for me to be here to raise her, not them. My dad is 56, mom 53 and dad retired in '99. They don't have to work and don't want to work, that includes taking physical care of my daughter. They are also aware that if they help me right now, which they want to, financially then I will less likely need them in the future. I'm not going after CS right now because IT IS NOT NEEDED right now. I'm not going to get aid from the government because it is NOT NEEDED EITHER. My parents opinion is NOT moot because I respect them and their wishes and happen to agree with them. AND AND AND as I said BEFORE If I went to school and to work I would NOT be able to afford the amount of childcare that I would need without help from the government. ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND if you want to look at a post that I posted a week or two ago, you would SEE that I try to get her father to see her MORE then what he likes to, which is one of our many fights. IF I do need CS in the future, then that is when I will go to court. My plan is to not even need CS, but for all I know my daughter my need the extra money so that's why I'm HERE asking QUESTIONS!

I will respond to this.. and boy will I respond to this... but right now I have to go be a responsible parent!!

 

[tigger22472]

Wrong and wrong again. Yes, heaven forbid I let a stranger raise my child.

Children are not harmed in being watched by *strangers.* The fact of the matter is everyone is a stranger until they meet them... still not an excuse not to have a job.

I gave birth to her, I'll do it myself. And as for my parents, THEY DO NOT WORK and their wish is for me to be here to raise her, not them.

So see, a stranger wouldn't be watching her so there goes your excuse for not working. Are you going to let them make all your decisions when it comes to your child?

My dad is 56, mom 53 and dad retired in '99. They don't have to work and don't want to work, that includes taking physical care of my daughter.

AWW.. so they would refuse to watch her for you to work? Too bad... back to strangers...

They are also aware that if they help me right now, which they want to, financially then I will less likely need them in the future.

BS

I'm not going after CS right now because IT IS NOT NEEDED right now.

You aren't getting it through your thick skull that it IS needed now.

I'm not going to get aid from the government because it is NOT NEEDED EITHER.

Well not when your mooching off your parents..

My parents opinion is NOT moot because I respect them and their wishes and happen to agree with them.

I'd agree too if I could sit on my A$$ and not support my children

AND AND AND as I said BEFORE If I went to school and to work I would NOT be able to afford the amount of childcare that I would need without help from the government.

Let's see, that was blown out by the fact that you would get help through CS for daycare... and the fact that although I'm not real keen on people getting government help but it happens to the best of us to help us get on our feet.

ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND if you want to look at a post that I posted a week or two ago, you would SEE that I try to get her father to see her MORE then what he likes to, which is one of our many fights.

Don't need to, don't want to. I've seen and heard enough from you

IF I do need CS in the future, then that is when I will go to court. My plan is to not even need CS, but for all I know my daughter my need the extra money so that's why I'm HERE asking QUESTIONS!

You need to grow up. Take responsibility for your child and then ask questions

 

[stephgts]

You need to grow up. Take responsibility for your child and then ask questions

I do not want my daughter in daycare at this age, and her father agrees. I've watched my brother deal with daycare people for the last 4 years, since he and his ex wife split up. I can't count how MANY times he's had to switch his kids from one daycare to the next because the businesses have been slacking on watching the kids, I.D.ing the adults who come to pick them up, having personell that are too young to even legally get a job, etc. The last straw being when a daycare worker at the local CHURCH slammed my nephew up against the wall and punched him in the ribs. Many people might have good experiences with daycare, but from what I've seen, it would absolutely TERRIFY me to have my child in one of them before she's able to speak and tell me how her day was and how they're treating her.

 

[jbowman]

You are a teen parent, arent you? Im not being rude or sarcastic, I am just getting the impression from your posts that you are probably 15-17 years old.

Listen to what you have read here without getting too defensive. The reaction you are getting is because people are APPALLED at your choices.

Bottom line is that 1) NO, you do not have to spend alot of money on court costs, 2) if you want to do what is best for your child, get paternity established, 3) go to court and get a child support order now.

 

[nextwife]

First, I had my daughter is an accredited daycare, and NEVER had to make a change. The socialization, sharing and turntaking skills, exposure to diversity, were all POSITIVE influences in her development!

I suspect that mom is reticent to have anything legal established because SHE wants to call all the shots with dad's access and dosen't want dad to get a CO to have HIS time at HIS place or wherever away from her. She'll be one of those

"my kid is with me or my parents 24/7, she's NEVER with a sitter or away from one of us, isn't that special? so she can't be away from me to spend time over at her dad's, and besides, I"M BREASTFEEDING, "​

kinda moms.