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JETX

Senior Member
Arthur45 said:
NOPE, YOU'RE WRONG THERE. Not employed by school system.
How do you KNOW she isn't?? From your own post: "I have no clue who the spouse of this person is. I have no clue who this principal is."
 

acmb05

Senior Member
JETX said:
And EXACTLY what law would that be???


An educational institution cannot disclose personally identifiable information to a third person (e.g. attorney, friend, lay advocate, relative, social worker, etc.) unless it has first received written consent from the parent. The written consent must be signed and dated and must specify the following:

* The records to be disclosed;
* The purpose of the disclosure;
* The party to whom the disclosure is to be made.

Sec. 99.30 Under what conditions is prior consent required to disclose
information?

(a) The parent or eligible student shall provide a signed and dated
written consent before an educational agency or institution discloses
personally identifiable information from the student's education
records, except as provided in Sec. 99.31.

Sec. 99.31 Under what conditions is prior consent not required to
disclose information?

(a) An educational agency or institution may disclose personally
identifiable information from an education record of a student without
the consent required by Sec. 99.30 if the disclosure meets one or more
of the following conditions:
(1) The disclosure is to other school officials, including teachers,
within the agency or institution whom the agency or institution has
determined to have legitimate educational interests.
(2) The disclosure is, subject to the requirements of Sec. 99.34, to
officials of another school, school system, or institution of
postsecondary education where the student seeks or intends to enroll.
(3) The disclosure is, subject to the requirements of Sec. 99.35, to
authorized representatives of:
(i) The Comptroller General of the United States;
(ii) The Secretary; or
(iii) State and local educational authorities.
 
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Arthur45

Junior Member
ACMB05:

THANK YOU!! By reading this, I don't see how anyone can say they did not break a law. I appreciate your help.
 

BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
Arthur45 said:
ACMB05:

THANK YOU!! By reading this, I don't see how anyone can say they did not break a law. I appreciate your help.
Before you THANK this person, ask them were they got this "law". :rolleyes:
 

JETX

Senior Member
acmb05 said:
An educational institution cannot disclose personally identifiable information to a third person (e.g. attorney, friend, lay advocate, relative, social worker, etc.) unless it has first received written consent from the parent.
So, you can cut-n-paste... but not read to see if what you are pasting is accurate??? It isn't in this case.

That is because you 'forgot' to read the DEFINITION of 'personally identifiable information' from FERPA, huh??
FERPA section 99.3:
Personally identifiable information includes, but is not limited to:
(a) The student's name;
(b) The name of the student's parent or other family member;
(c) The address of the student or student's family;
(d) A personal identifier, such as the student's social security number or student number;
(e) A list of personal characteristics that would make the student's identity easily traceable; or
(f) Other information that would make the student's identity easily traceable.


And of course, there is NOTHING in this thread to even suggest that any of the above information was disclosed.
 

acmb05

Senior Member
well

JETX said:
So, you can cut-n-paste... but not read to see if what you are pasting is accurate??? It isn't in this case.

That is because you 'forgot' to read the DEFINITION of 'personally identifiable information' from FERPA, huh??
FERPA section 99.3:
Personally identifiable information includes, but is not limited to:
(a) The student's name;
(b) The name of the student's parent or other family member;
(c) The address of the student or student's family;
(d) A personal identifier, such as the student's social security number or student number;
(e) A list of personal characteristics that would make the student's identity easily traceable; or
(f) Other information that would make the student's identity easily traceable.


And of course, there is NOTHING in this thread to even suggest that any of the above information was disclosed.
it also says BUT NOT LIMITED TO.
 

acmb05

Senior Member
So Jetx

They had emails back and forth about his daughter but her name was never mentione, his name was never mentioned and they did not talk about anything that had to do with her schooling. That takes care of A/B/and E

So what do you suppose they were talking about in the emails. It is obvious they were talking about his child and what would be best for her in the school. So yes at least 3 of them do apply.

And I got the information off of the FERPA webpage.
 

JETX

Senior Member
acmb05 said:
So what do you suppose they were talking about in the emails.
And therein lies the reason why your answer is NOT correct. You ASSUME certain things that we don't know... then base your entire 'house of cards' on that assumption.

You said, "the principle is violating the law by discussing anything with his wife and for forwarding an email to her."... which we all know is NOT correct.

The bottom line to this entire thread is..... as noted in my post (several times)...
"I suggest you talk with someone at the school district about this problem."
 

acmb05

Senior Member
Arthur45 said:
What is the name of your state? CA

Hi,
I had something happen the other day and would like some advice. I had been going back and forth with a principal at a school trying to get answers to questions. Him and I were communicating through email thoughout the day. To make a long story short, the last email I sent must have gotten under his skin. But what happened was he forwarded my email to his wife for her opinion. The wife DOES NOT work in the school district. And in turn the wife replied thinking she was replying to the husband and the email came to me, which was bashing me and giving the husband advice on not to even bother with a "leunatic". This principal sent communication about my daughter to an outside source, which had alot of personal information about my daughter in it. I'm pretty sure this is not legal is it? I'm livid and just don't know what type of lawyer to seek out. My daughter does have special needs which need to be adressed, yet this sending information about my daughter to unknown sources without my permission is what has me the maddest. I think I should be contacting a lawyer before I talk to anyone else, can someone give me advice?

Thanks
I did not assume anything. It plainly said in his original post that they were discussing is child. Therefore he CANNOT send it to his wife or any outside souce for thier opinion.

The problem is when a few of you get all high and mighty and assume your answers are the only correct ones.

So now you wanted me to post the law regarding this lets see the law you read that says its ok for a school official to discuss these things with thier spouse.
 

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