custody battle but neither parent properly equipped

[cairysse]

Are you serious?

A few things:
The 13 year old needs to knock before walking into a room;
Dad's brother being homosexual is NOT an issue;
dad having sex is NOT an issue;
Dad having more than one sexual party is NOT an issue unless one of them is the thirteen year old or another child;
to diagnose an addiction to porn you need more than just dad looking at it and you are not QUALIFIED to diagnose him;
a sneeze is sometimes just a sneeze and means nothing more than the nose got irritated -- no diagnosis needed and if you think there always is then you are NOT going to be a good nurse Ms. Student...

Hmm should I continue? Oh yeah. Nothing you have stated makes dad unfit. Hence dad will get custody if mom is a drug addict.

you have soooooooooooo missed the point. I showed this to my husband and he is apalled by these responses. is this some sort of joke? i want the best for y sister and your being a flatout...period.

-i was concerned about the dad bc of 8 ppl in a 2 bedroom house. I hate to bring up ethnicity, but my husband is upset bc she is one white girl admist 6 mexicans that introduced her to weed and cocaine at the age of 12.

-i have diagnosed NOTHING.

-when i say addiction to porn, perhaps i should rephrase as looking at porn at innappropriate times??? she walked in on her dad while visiting his mother/her grandmother on a computer that she uses frequently as well, but THAT wasnt even the issue at hand and to get so technical about wording? my god! my mother is addicted to diet coke. what do you have to say about that?

-and, uh, the sneeze was merely an example. you dont have to be a doctor to make a simple STATEMENT! and to condesend me on my life choices is completely out of line. btw, what is it you do?

-if you are calling her mom a drug addict, are you a QUALIFIED doctor in which to do so? i said perhaps borderline or to rephrase, a bit more than prescribed.

-oh yeah, thank you for being the one person to give my an opinion on which home would be the wiser choice

-and PLEASE, by all means, continue....

no smiley face, too dissappointed in this entire 'forum' thing.

 

[proud_parent]

you have soooooooooooo missed the point. i showed this to my husband and he is apalled by these responses. is this some sort of joke? i want the best for y sister and your being a flatout . period.

Every senior member who has responded has offered an "unbiased opinion not closely tied to the emotions of the case". Isn't that what you requested?

-i was concerned about the dad bc of 8 ppl in a 2 bedroom house. I hate to bring up ethnicity, but my husband is upset bc she is one white girl admist 6 mexicans that introduced her to weed and cocaine at the age of 12.

Uh huh. Then why mention it at all? Because your husband wouldn't bat an eye if she were living with six Caucasians contributing to the delinquency of a minor?

-i have diagnosed NOTHING.

So what qualified medical professional has ascribed the terminology "borderline bad pill/alcohol problem" to Mom's behavior?

-when i say addiction to porn, perhaps i should rephrase as looking at porn at innappropriate times??? she walked in on her dad while visiting his mother/her grandmother on a computer that she uses frequently as well, but THAT wasnt even the issue at hand and to get so technical about wording?

This is a legal advice forum. The Court tends to be picky about wording, especially when litigants throw about incorrect, psuedo-legal terminology in support of their personal agendas.

my god! my mother is addicted to diet coke. what do you have to say about that?

I'd say that your mother makes unsound nutritional choices.

-and, uh, the sneeze was merely an example. you dont have to be a doctor to make a simple STATEMENT! and to condesend me on my life choices is completely out of line. btw, what is it you do?

Ohiogal is a Family Court attorney and guardian ad litem.

-if you are calling her mom a drug addict, are you a QUALIFIED doctor in which to do so? i said perhaps borderline or to rephrase, a bit more than prescribed.

OG didn't state that Mom is an addict. She stated that you have offered no proof that Dad is legally unfit to have custody, then drew the logical conclusion that Dad would be awarded custody if Mom is indeed a drug addict.

-oh yeah, thank you for being the one person to give my an opinion on which home would be the wiser choice

Consider yourself lucky. In her professional capacity, OG gets paid to offer such recommendations.

 

[Ohiogal]

you have soooooooooooo missed the point,

No you have MISSED the point. You don't get it. Unless you can prove that either parent is unfit you won't get anywhere -- and quite frankly YOU do not even have standing to attempt to prove that either parent is unfit.

and is everyone on this forum a bunch of &$% faces?

Well you seem to be acting like one.

i showed this to my husband and he is apalled by these responses. is this some sort of joke? i want the best for y sister and your being a flatout *******. period.

I am not a flatout anything -- I am a Royal Quidditch Captain however. Please show proper homage.

-i was concerned about the dad bc of 8 ppl in a 2 bedroom house.

And that does NOT matter. Not illegal.

I hate to bring up ethnicity, but my husband is upset bc she is one white girl admist 6 mexicans

So your husband is racist.

that introduced her to weed and cocaine at the age of 12.

And yet NOTHING ABOUT THIS was mentioned in any of the other posts? nice work. You are rapidly losing credibility. Also, are you sure she is a white girl? I mean how positive are you because the one drop rule comes into effect if you want to be technical.

-i have diagnosed NOTHING.

Really? You diagnosed a porn addiction and a drug/alcohol problem. Those are diagnoses.

-when i say addiction to porn, perhaps i should rephrase as looking at porn at innappropriate times???

Was he in a room with the door shut? Or in the middle of the living room with people walking around. Oh and before you answer realize that you were NOT there so you don't know for a fact.

she walked in on her dad while visiting his mother/her grandmother on a computer that she uses frequently as well,

Did she KNOCK?

but THAT wasnt even the issue at hand and to get so technical about wording? my god!

Your words speak for themselves. Just like pleadings speak to a court.

my mother is addicted to diet coke. what do you have to say about that?

What proof do you have that it is an addiction?

-and, uh, the sneeze was merely an example. you dont have to be a doctor to make a simple STATEMENT! and to condesend me on my life choices is completely out of line. btw, what is it you do?

You have to be a doctor to diagnosis. Oh and I am an attorney who works in the areas of juvenile (legal custody to third parties, dependency, neglect and abuse) as well as family law. I also perform Guardian ad litem work. I have a JD degree, passed the bar and have specialized training to perform my duties. You are a nursing student which gives you no right to diagnosis anyone. And you wouldn't have that right even when you graduate.

-if you are calling her mom a drug addict, are you a QUALIFIED doctor in which to do so? i said perhaps borderline or to rephrase, a bit more than prescribed.

Oh. Well, then these are prescription medicines for her illnesses maybe? And how do you KNOW she is taking a bit more than prescribed or allowed? Are you there every day to see how much she is taking? Do you attend her doctor's appointments?

-oh yeah, thank you for being the one person to give my an opinion on which home would be the wiser choice

You are welcome.

-and PLEASE, by all means, continue....

Don't need your permission or wishes to continue.

no smiley face, too dissappointed in this entire 'forum' thing.

Why? Because you didn't get the answer you and your hubby wanted to hear?

 

[LdiJ]

thank you for your input. i was simply trying to follow the rules and not pretend to be someone else to get an answer but i guess honesty is not always the best policy.

My husband (her brother) and I are extremely worried about her well-being and merely wanted to know if we could help the situation in any way. we just wanted an unbiased opinion not closely tied to the emotions of the case.

oh and btw, a 'third-party' of some sort is practically always in the picture/story/question.

In this instance, you aren't a classic third party.

If you and your husband truly agree that the child would be better off in your home, and you are both willing to take on that responsibility, AND both parent completely agree with it, then no, its not stupid or foolish.

However, you need to realize that neither one of them will want to pay child support to you either.

 

[sweetcinaminn]

Oh my...

 

[Ohiogal]

Interesting..

http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/cairysse/

Nice drugs. Hmmm cairysse, I stand by my first assessment. You and hubby aren't properly equipped to even attempt this. LD, look at the pics she posted of taking yellow pills. And performing ORAL sex. And parading around in front of children with her ass hanging out AND having pics where apparently they are smoking pot in front of the children and frolicking on camera in lingerie with animals. Little missy, the one into porn seems to be you and your hubby -- after all you are POSTING the porn for the world to see. Should I continue? Oh and just to let you know you can be reported to the local authorities who I am sure would love to know why you are posting pornography and doing drugs when you have children around you. I am sure we can make sure that your children are taken by Children Services. And your behavior in those photos can also get you removed from nursing school. Nice.

 

[Just Blue]

Ohhhhhh

I was just living, loving, laughing... and now I'm leaving

This dude is out!

he he he. You made my day.

Sweetie...Did you have an operation while I was away????

 

[divona2000]

Interesting..

http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/cairysse/

Wow qurice, good catch on this OP!

 

[great_ideas]

Wow!

I can't believe someone would post pictures like that online. I guess I am too naive.

Thankfully you were clothed in the pictures with your children. You and your hubby may have your fun with your camera in the privacy of your room, but i don't recommend posting stuff like that on the internet! (Why isn't there a "duh!" icon???)

Gross, sick, nasty, the list goes on.... Don't file for custody of your sisterinlaw. You'd probably end-up losing your own kids if that is the kind of behavior that you exhibit.

 

[Isis1]

Interesting..

http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/cairysse/

omg....how did you find this?? geez, OP...drugs...nice one.

 

[Ohiogal]

omg....how did you find this?? geez, OP...drugs...nice one.

The word hypocrite comes to mind.

 

[Isis1]

The word hypocrite comes to mind.

i'm offended. it's better to be high, a danger to children then to be mexican with 8 people in one house. seriously, i am offended.

 

[penelope10]

I for one am not going to look up the website. I'm simply NOT interested. To me the answer to the question is quite simple. Children cannot be taken away simply because parents/guardians are poor. Yes, indeed there are folks that live in small living arrangements with many children. I have a friend who grew up with just his Mom and eight siblings in a 2 bedroom house. His Mom made a living as a maid cleaning a rich woman's home. He grew up as a well adjusted adult and thinks the world of his Mom. (And by the way has tons of funny stories about growing up in cramped quarters). You don't have a leg to stand on based on the facts presented. Probably even less with your website postings.

 

[tryingtolearn2]

Interesting..

http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/cairysse/

Wow..... and to think you have the balls to say the mom of child in question is addicted to pills? Don't see any pics of her popping pills, laying half naked, almost exposed ( and dad is the porn addict too....right? LOL ) and with children. Someone in this family needs professional help...

POT.KETTLE.BLACK.

 

[cairysse]

thats no good......

well now that i am completely embarrassed i'll quickly say that was 4 yrs ago and i have attempted to grow up since. but this is not about me and digging that up was.... what was that for? to humiliate me? good job qurice and ohio. you win. happy?

first off, sorry for offending isabella. my husband would propably still be upset if they were white, but since they are hispanic, to him that is worse. i just wasnt sure if it was legal to have 8 people in a 2 bedroom house. apartements wont let you rent if there's too many poeple so i'm no sure if that was a law of some sort but i guess not.

2nd my husband is dead and those will be prompltly deleted. the camera allready is.

once again i merely wanted to know which house seemed more capable of being a fit home. so thank you for those who said the dad. i agree. i was never serious about trying to get custody. that's far-reached and it would take her out of her school and across town form her parents.

i'm not going to talk to a lawyer bc that's why i came on here. just to get opinions, so thanks for those who stuck to the original question and didnt go straying WAY off topic. and thank you penelope for showing couth. there are few like you.

lastly, again, i'm dissappointed that this is the type of help a person receives when they are legititmately concerned about their family and instead of getting advice on a FREE ADVICE forum, they are belittled, humiliated, condesended, dragged through the mud over the internet , and come to realize that the word free always costs something.

but only you can bring yourself down, so nice try!

these lil' guys are fun, they're the reason i even replied. hahaha