Discipline of a child

[Rochelle]

And should he not spank her on school property?

 

[HumorMe!]

HUH?

 

[MySonsMom]

She started a new thread instead of commenting on the first one.

I'm not going to say if he should or shouldn't spank the child on school property...I personally think that the way this is being handled is not good and alternative measures would be much more successful.

 

[HumorMe!]

Who is spanking Who on school property? What does school property have to do with it?

hm

 

[MySonsMom]

Child is having problems at school. Non custodial Dad wants to be called when the child acts up during the day at school to go up there and spank the child.

 

[HumorMe!]

Bad idea. Spankings are not illegal yet, but humiliating your child can be grounds for removing the child from your care.

hm

 

[glp9986]

The mother ASKED him to spank the child for her behavior on the weekends he had her. He said that was unfair and said he'd go to the school instead, as the mother did not want to deal with it herself. The question was not if he should or should not spank, or what our opinion was. This is how they choose to discipline. The answer is No, this is not child abuse as long as it IS just a spanking and ONLY for discipline. She stated they had taken the child to be tested for ADD and there were lots of notes being sent home from the teacher. I suggested he go to the child's home after school and take care of it there. She's not asking us to agree or disagree with her on the whole thing. This question has been asked and answered, and this thread should be closed before this gets out of control and this poster is accused of beating the dickens out the kid. We should all remember that whether we agree or disagree with a situation, all we have to do is answer the question and go on.

 

[HumorMe!]

As far as I can tell, no one is accusing anybody of doing anything!

She asked a question, which was answered to the best of our abilities. I certainly wouldn't accuse them of beating their child for a spanking. There is a vast difference between the two.

My point was, disciplining your child in a public manner in front of friends, teachers, etc can be HUMILIATING. Whether or not you or I agree with the nature of the punishment is besides the point. I am cautioning against this on the grounds that Social Services can and sometimes will take a child away from the parents if they believe the punishment to be damaging to the child's self esteem.

I don't think a thread should be ended just because someone disagrees! I certainly hope nobody stops posting simply for that reason! We are all different people and we all can not think the same way.

hm

 

[glp9986]

I didn't say anybody WAS accusing anybody of anything. I said BEFORE it happens, and you know it happens a lot on here. Certain people get on a thread and run with it as far and fast as they can go. It happened to me. You and ARE agreeing on one thing: if he wants to spank do it at his ex's house instead of school. Afterall, she did ASK him to do it and doesn't seem to have a problem with it. Which confuses me as to why she'd say she'd report him for child abuse if he did it, unless his ex means if he does it at school without her being present.

 

[HumorMe!]

I don't know. This sounds like a bad situation for the person involved regardless.

hm

 

[MySonsMom]

Bad idea. Spankings are not illegal yet, but humiliating your child can be grounds for removing the child from your care.

hm

I don't think I agree with this statement. Humiliation is a new and at times quite successful form of punishment for some children/kids. In fact, some judges are using this form of punishment in their court rooms.

 

[digger65]

Humiliation is by no stretch a new form of punishment. Public humiliation is what used to drive people to follow the rules of society. Remember stockades in the town center? Parents and teachers are left with no form of enforcing discipline in this age of moral decay. Humiliate them and it's a lawsuit, spank them, and it's the rathe of an over zealous, self-rightious, CPS investigator with a self-fulfiling prophecy! Even though it is not against the law to spank your child, you are marked should CPS be called. This is what is wrong with children and schools today. It's a free-for-all for children and they know it! There is even a law allowing children to go to a runaway and homeless youth shelter for up to 30 days with no legal recourse for parents of children as young as 9--with no justifiable reason. Let's get government agencies out of our lives and our children back under control.

 

[HumorMe!]

LOL Public humiliation is the threat du jour in my house at the moment. Nothing causes my child to snap to quicker than being told that I WILL punish her in front of her FRIENDS. My eldest will even sob and say, "You wouldn't do that really, would you?" It doesn't matter if it is the corner, timeout or a spanking. It's the embarrassment factor!

I'm just concerned about this poster. Admittedly, there is another post out there that I haven't read, but from other people's replies, I would have to say, whatever he does decide, proceed with caution!

hm

The Teamsters Reps called a meeting to inform the union members of the outcome of a heated discussion with the bosses over shortening the working hours.

The area Rep stood up to address the members.

"OK, ok, calm it", he said, until finally he could be heard.
"You'll be pleased to know that the discussions were a complete success, and we managed to get them to agree a one day week....

A loud roar of approaval went up around the hall.

"And that day", went on the Rep, "Is gonna be Wednesday!".

After a few minutes of silence a voice piped up from the back, "What EVERY freaking wednesday?!"

 

[SLIPPERYSOAP]

for those of you who are using humiliation to keep your kids under control, and who at the same time are Christians remeber this story..

There was a women standing in the middle of a crowd. She was getting ready to be stoned to death. Jesus stood to the side of the crowd and started writing all of the crowds sins in the dirt. The bible didn't say that he wrote their names next to thier sins as to humiliate them. Yet they still left, and dropped there stones. The women who sined walked away with her life.

If you start while your children are young rearing them up in the way they should go you won't have these problems. There won't be a need to humiliate them, or hurt them. Besides if you are a Christian you should have handed your children over to the Lord and they are not yours, but you are their (for lack of better words) Manager, and care taker. You don't want to hand them over to the Lord embarassed, but bold and strong. You don't want to hand them over to him brused, and batter, but healthy. Sorry, for the serman, but I couldn't keep not say anything.

 

[SLIPPERYSOAP]

for those of you who are using humiliation to keep your kids under control, and who at the same time are Christians remeber this story..

There was a women standing in the middle of a crowd. She was getting ready to be stoned to death. Jesus stood to the side of the crowd and started writing all of the crowds sins in the dirt. The bible didn't say that he wrote their names next to thier sins as to humiliate them. Yet they still left, and dropped there stones. The women who sined walked away with her life.

If you start while your children are young rearing them up in the way they should go you won't have these problems. There won't be a need to humiliate them, or hurt them. Besides if you are a Christian you should have handed your children over to the Lord and they are not yours, but you are their (for lack of better words) Manager, and care taker. You don't want to hand them over to the Lord embarassed, but bold and strong. You don't want to hand them over to him brused, and batter, but healthy. Sorry, for the serman, but I couldn't not say anything.