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Just Blue

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Does anybody else just get the shivers even thinking about it?:(
Yeah...And a bit sick. I am signing my little one up tomorrow for a safety class.

OP's DD has an angel on her shoulder...She could have been killed.
 
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mistoffolees

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While kiddo may have possibly run into a parked car, how fast was she going to break the WINDSHIELD of a parked car, I can see possibly cracking it but going THROUGH IT? Doubtful.

She would have had to be going 20 mph at least for the momentum of her weight to cause enough force to even just crack the windshield. Think about it, if it takes a deer getting hit by a car going 30-40 mph to just crack the windshield on most cars, a 45 lb 8 yr old is going to go through it?

I don't believe it either, granted there are freak accidents but I would be absolutely concerned.
It's quite plausible, as you've been told, but I'm curious what your explanation is? Dad picked child up and used her as a sledgehammer to break the windshield?

I'M just thinking, she says Dad is very defensive and maybe he is hiding something.
How do you think Dad is going to react when Mom comes in screaming and yelling: "look what you did to my child. I'm going to get your for child abuse, you scum"
 
It's quite plausible, as you've been told, but I'm curious what your explanation is? Dad picked child up and used her as a sledgehammer to break the windshield?
Goodness No! I know it may be possible, freak accidents occur, but mom made it sound like kiddo went through the windshield like a cannonball.

There are just too many variables and unknowns for anyone to guess. In general, if kiddo wasnt paying attention and hit a car head on, I can see her flying off head first, yes some bruises etc. However, the description of the incident and the history between mom and dad lends suspicion on there may be more to the story.

I think it is a combo of mom being upset, mom and dad's previous issues with each other and supposedly dad's defensiveness. Until more details are posted who knows.
 

LdiJ

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It's quite plausible, as you've been told, but I'm curious what your explanation is? Dad picked child up and used her as a sledgehammer to break the windshield?



How do you think Dad is going to react when Mom comes in screaming and yelling: "look what you did to my child. I'm going to get your for child abuse, you scum"
I had a little suspicion that maybe one of dad's family/friends was driving the car and therefore it wasn't parked...and dad was trying to protect that person. However, when a couple of other posters explained to me that they had direct knowledge of it being possible, that dampened my little suspicion.
 

CJane

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I didn't read past page 3, so I apologize in advance for repeats...

1. Even IF Kiddo was being "properly supervised", unless someone was DRIVING THE BIKE FOR HER, they could not have prevented the accident. My now 10 year old ran smack into the back end of a parked truck when riding her bike - as I jogged along next to her.

2. Perhaps Dad is defensive because there is a history of Mom calling CPS on him, communicating with his attorney rather than him, following up his "stories" with his family, questioning daughter about events on dad's time, etc. I'm defensive when my ex decides I "must" be lying to him about something -- because he's constantly accusing me of something.

3. I find it nearly impossible to fathom that this much damage was done to a vehicle AND a child and there was no police report filed.

4. While a deer might only crack/spiderweb a windshield, even at high speed, that's because the deer usually gets hit broadside and slides up the hood, glancing off the windshield. But a rock weighing 45 lbs, thrown at the windshield at just the right angle would absolutely go through the windshield. Because daughter's facial bones weren't broken, it's likely she DID hit helmet first (just like a rock).

5. My sister's son managed to pull a professional hockey goal over on himself, dislocating all of the flesh on his face from the skeletal system underneath, and shattering the bone that keeps your eyeball from falling into your sinuses. He required so many stitches that the plastic surgeon "lost count". He now sports artificial bone in his eye socket. It was the most bizarre accident ever -- but it was most certainly an accident -- at a birthday party with 10 supervising adults present.
 

stealth2

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I know - it made me laugh! ;)

I can see both sides to this situation. If it were my kid, my gut instinct would be to find out who CAUSED this to happen and rip their throat out. Because "it was an accident" just wouldn't cut it at that time and place. And I could see being on the other side, angry and defensive that the natural assumption was that it was MY fault. I'm sure Dad feels badly enough that it happened on his watch, w/o Mom assuming he is somehow to blame.

Thing is, accidents are called that for a reason. And they happen. As others have stated, a small stone hitting the windshield can compromise it's integrity - a 45lb "stone" will do more than that. I've seen a fist-sized rock thrown *through* a windshield. In this situation, a child going perhaps a bit too fast for her abilities, perhaps loses control... I can certainly see this is the end result. I would be grateful that someone saw fit to make sure she was wearing a helmet.

IF the child says something later that indicates there is more to the story, that's one thing. But... it sounds as though this was just one of those things that we never expect will happen - let alone to our child.

As for who is watching her for the rest of the week? As much as Mom wants to (I know I would), it is Dad's time. What I'd likely do is ask (nicely) if it would be okay to stop by for an hour or so, just to say hi. And offer Dad the same courtesy when she comes home. Might go a long way to repairing a difficult relationship.
 

CSO286

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Kinda O/T

I spent four years working as an EMT, and one of the saddest things that I ever saw was a 7 seven year old girl with a severe skull fracture.

All the neighborhood kids got together one morning and were playing baseball in yard. Little girl says, dad, come play too. Dad sets down weed whacker and graba a bat. When he goes to swing the bat flew out of his hands, still damp from moist grass, and strikes child in head.

We transported the child from local hosp to childrens' hosp. Truly tragic part? Dad was in front seat of amb with me, talking to mom on cell phone. Apparently the two were in the midst of a messy divorce, and I could hear her screaming through the phone that he would never ever see his daughter again.

Accidents do happen.....

( I have no idea how the divorce went, but little girl: Full recovery!)
 

CSO286

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Fear for a child can make a parent irrational.
No doubt---and as previous posters have said, accidents are called accidents for a reason.

We all have to teach our children to be as safe as possible, but we also have to give them room to make mistakes--and sometimes they will get hurt doing so.
 

LdiJ

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No doubt---and as previous posters have said, accidents are called accidents for a reason.

We all have to teach our children to be as safe as possible, but we also have to give them room to make mistakes--and sometimes they will get hurt doing so.
However we hope, god willing, that the hurts are minor and not life threatening. Sometimes there is a fine line between safety and risk.
 

gr8rn

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I know - it made me laugh! ;)

I can see both sides to this situation. If it were my kid, my gut instinct would be to find out who CAUSED this to happen and rip their throat out. Because "it was an accident" just wouldn't cut it at that time and place. And I could see being on the other side, angry and defensive that the natural assumption was that it was MY fault. I'm sure Dad feels badly enough that it happened on his watch, w/o Mom assuming he is somehow to blame.
This is exactly how I feel. Yes, it could be an accident, but if dad is being evasive about what happened, I would push more to know what did happen. If it is an accident, then it is what it is, we deal with it. But Mom wants to KNOW what happened. she has that right.

And who said it would be ok to go screaming at dad about anything....oh, right. no one:rolleyes:
 
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