yes i was a witness,& i even spoke to the gal over the phone in katz defense, but because of the hurricanes , my house ws damaged , & had no work from that point , so i moved back to Texas were I am originally from, but while I was in Florida, I saw & her & the kids nearly every day, & my son & her son are like best freinds , & i picked him up from school every day , i talked to both atty's she has & to the gal, but you see the grandmother is on medication, for depression & ( not sure how to spell) shcitsofrenia, & pshycosis, she has delusions , & sometimes she des not take her meds & she drinks alcohol on top of that. as the grandmothers sisters will tell you as they told me & the courts & the gal, she has always had a gift of being very convincing when she needs to be, they said they have a pshyc eval on her too , she left katz with them alot in her younger years , because she ws so wild, she couldnt decide when she wanted to be a mother or not, which is another reasn why katz is astranged from her.