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TheGeekess

Keeper of the Kraken
You'll have to go to your county's DHR office and get them to help you with setting up a proper support order.
Other individuals as listed below may apply for child support services by making an appointment with any County Department of Human Resources office in Alabama. Click here to obtain the address and telephone number of your county DHR office. Call your local number and request an appointment to apply for child support services. Please print out the 3 forms shown below, complete all information, and bring the forms to your appointment. Your caseworker will let you know if any additional information is needed. Depending on your income, a $5 or $25 fee is charged when you apply for child support services. This fee can be paid in cash or by money order and must be paid at the time of application.

The Alabama Department of Human Resources has agreements with child support attorneys around the state to provide legal representation. It is the attorney's duty to pursue the legal steps necessary to enforce or establish child support obligations from non-custodial parents. The attorney represents the State of Alabama only. Regardless of whether you receive TANF or not, no attorney-client relationship will exist between you and the child support attorney.

The child support attorney can address matters of child support only. If an action is filed relating to custody, visitation or any matter other than support, it will be necessary for you to seek private counsel to represent your interests in these issues.

Who can apply?

* The person having responsibility for and exercising control of the child(ren), such as a:
o Custodial Parent
o Grantee relative with care and control, but not custody of the child(ren)
* Alleged fathers wanting to establish paternity
* A representative of an agency holding custody of a child by order of the court
* Custodial parents with emancipated children who are owed arrears that accrued under a court order while the children were minors
* Non-Custodial parents
Applying for Child Support Services

I've got some more links, but they're on the PC at home. I'll be glad to post them when I get home this evening.
 


plumdragon

Junior Member
Sorry I've been unclear...the daycare and preschool are the same thing. It's an actual private school, not a drop in daycare center. We can't pay for odd days, and have it be a drop in center on 'my' days.

I'll take my CS lumps if it comes to it, pay what I have to pay. I can't get a full time job with being in school, and without the schooling...I only have a GED to my name. The current job market here is very high tech, ie if you *don't* have a degree you're stuck with whatever you have now. I'd get a full time job if there were any around to take (and that would work with school). As it is, even just trying to find another part time job is nearly impossible, no one wants an uneducated employee who can only work from 2-5pm, 3 days out of their schedule...
 

Isis1

Senior Member
Sorry I've been unclear...the daycare and preschool are the same thing. It's an actual private school, not a drop in daycare center. We can't pay for odd days, and have it be a drop in center on 'my' days.

I'll take my CS lumps if it comes to it, pay what I have to pay. I can't get a full time job with being in school, and without the schooling...I only have a GED to my name. The current job market here is very high tech, ie if you *don't* have a degree you're stuck with whatever you have now. I'd get a full time job if there were any around to take (and that would work with school). As it is, even just trying to find another part time job is nearly impossible, no one wants an uneducated employee who can only work from 2-5pm, 3 days out of their schedule...
please understand i'm not being snide....

that's a personal problem. take out the school and get a full time job or two part-time jobs. if you can manage a part-time AND school, that's all fine, but you will still be calulated as full time. no excuses.
 

TheGeekess

Keeper of the Kraken
Shoot, I've posted them here so many times that I decided to search for them.

For more information on custody & support in Alabama:

Link to Alabama Code on Child Custody
http://alisondb.legislature.state.al.us/acas/CodeOfAlabama/1975/128972.htm

Link to Alabama Administrative Court site on Child Support:
Administrative Office of Courts

DHR website on Child Support:
Child Support Enforcement

Schedule of Basic Child Support:
Administrative Office of Courts

Worksheet used in Alabama to compute Child Support:
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(It's number 42)
 

plumdragon

Junior Member
I understand you. If I get calculated on being full time, I'll have to just deal with it. Living until with only a high school education and working minimum wage for the next 15 or so years just so that I get better child support... it's in her best interests if I can get a better job, period. Right now I have no health insurance, no benefits, etc, and that's going to end up being bad for her in the long run, too.

Thank you :)
 

abys32

Member
QUIT QUIT QUIT POSTING. Please quit.

If she goes for a standard child support order she will find her income imputed for CHOOSING to be underemployed. She will find that he will NOT be responsible for all the day care and only a portion during the time that she is WORKING and not for her volunteer or social activities.

Why should dad agree to pay for MOM's PREFERENCES? Good grief. Mom could find she would get LESS money. Oh and dad could also argue for a right of first refusal or that his wife could watch sweetie and therefore save them BOTH money. Get it? You need to quit.
You would be surprised what people will do to avoid a formal child support payment. Not everything is decided by the judges. The original arrangement certainly was not in this case. Even the judges prefer if you work it out without their interference.

Mom gets no money now. She can't get less than that! Good grief. I think we agree, mom should just go to court to get a standard CS payement and then pay for it herself if that is her preference. While she is at it, she should request that he ALSO pay for part of the daycare. If she shows she is looking for a job or in school full time, the income may not be impuned, it can't hurt to ask. This economy is changing things a bit. If she doesn't get daycare payment, she should go back to court again after she gets a job and request it at that time. And dad could find himself paying CS, part of the dacycare and still make his wife watch sweetie all day if that's how he chooses to use his time. Dad could even pay an attorney for the priveldge of paying CS through the system. Your caps are funny.
 
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abys32

Member
And maybe dad wants to go to court because it would show the idiocy of mom if mom wants to be ignorant and follow your advice. This poster is someone attorneys would LOVE to go against -- especially if she follows your advice.
Just to clarify, are you saying that you believe that his mother would not be able to modify the order and receive CS payments based on hers AND dad's income? That's all he has to pay and he is not paying it.


In my opinion, attorneys like opponents who overreact in court.
 

TheGeekess

Keeper of the Kraken
Just to clarify, are you saying that you believe that his mother would not be able to modify the order and receive CS payments based on hers AND dad's income? That's all he has to pay and he is not paying it.


In my opinion, attorneys like opponents who overreact in court.
Just stop. I've posted the relevant Alabama information for OP, if she will just read it. I've even been through the process in ALABAMA to get CS awarded. You are not posting anything relevant to the discussion. What you think and what you feel have nothing to do with the matter at hand.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Just to clarify, are you saying that you believe that his mother would not be able to modify the order and receive CS payments based on hers AND dad's income? That's all he has to pay and he is not paying it.


In my opinion, attorneys like opponents who overreact in court.
Really? I happen to be an attorney. YOUR OPINION counts for nothing. SO stifle it already. YOU do NOT have a clue as to what you are saying and you are going to cause someone a great deal of problems with your blogging. KNOCK IT OFF. Got it?
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
You would be surprised what people will do to avoid a formal child support payment. Not everything is decided by the judges. The original arrangement certainly was not in this case. Even the judges prefer if you work it out without their interference. Your caps are funny.
Your so called advice would be funny if it were not a disgrace to this forum. And a side agreement IS NOT able to be enforced by the courts. You really need to QUIT. AGAIN. Don't you DARE lecture me about what the courts will do. Unless of course you decide to go through channels on here and prove that YOU are an attorney. Got it? Until then you are nothing more than an ignorant dangerous idiot who is giving inept, inaccurate, and bordering on illegal, advice.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Sorry I've been unclear...the daycare and preschool are the same thing. It's an actual private school, not a drop in daycare center. We can't pay for odd days, and have it be a drop in center on 'my' days.

I'll take my CS lumps if it comes to it, pay what I have to pay. I can't get a full time job with being in school, and without the schooling...I only have a GED to my name. The current job market here is very high tech, ie if you *don't* have a degree you're stuck with whatever you have now. I'd get a full time job if there were any around to take (and that would work with school). As it is, even just trying to find another part time job is nearly impossible, no one wants an uneducated employee who can only work from 2-5pm, 3 days out of their schedule...
And unless the court ordered dad to pay for PRIVATE SCHOOL then he doesn't have to. As for your educational situation, the court is not really going to care why you are working part time -- you can still work full time and go to school part time. Seriously. YOU CHOSE to have a baby when you only had a GED.
 

TheGeekess

Keeper of the Kraken
Sorry I've been unclear...the daycare and preschool are the same thing. It's an actual private school, not a drop in daycare center. We can't pay for odd days, and have it be a drop in center on 'my' days.

I'll take my CS lumps if it comes to it, pay what I have to pay. I can't get a full time job with being in school, and without the schooling...I only have a GED to my name. The current job market here is very high tech, ie if you *don't* have a degree you're stuck with whatever you have now. I'd get a full time job if there were any around to take (and that would work with school). As it is, even just trying to find another part time job is nearly impossible, no one wants an uneducated employee who can only work from 2-5pm, 3 days out of their schedule...
And what part of Alabama do you live in that the only jobs available are "very high tech"? I know better than all of this.... because I live in Bama. :rolleyes:
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
And what part of Alabama do you live in that the only jobs available are "very high tech"? I know better than all of this.... because I live in Bama. :rolleyes:
She lives in Technology Alabama. Google it. It has its own website :D

(okay so I have said wine. But seriously, google it.
 

abys32

Member
Just stop. I've posted the relevant Alabama information for OP, if she will just read it. I've even been through the process in ALABAMA to get CS awarded. You are not posting anything relevant to the discussion. What you think and what you feel have nothing to do with the matter at hand.
Geekess, this person claims to be an attorney, berates this woman, calls her and other posters names and tells her she is an idiot for believing she should be able to get child support. Ohiogal is a bully and I beleive she is misleading this woman. Maybe attorneys need to identify themselves. I do not claim to be an attorney, just an experienced divorcee who has seen it all turned upside down because the judge was a rational caring human being rather than a technical legal right fighter. Do not underestimate the spirit of the law in or out of the courtroom.
 
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