is this slander

[JETX]

Sounds like going from bad to worse.

 

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

Sounds like going from bad to worse.

My response:

Not from my vantage point. If I get my wish in November, things will actually go from bad to better!

IAAL

 

[JETX]

Must be a Nader fan!!
The only things worse than Bush as I see it would be 'ScaryJohnKerry' or Hillbilly Clinton!!

There are far too many skeletons in the Kerry closet that will come out before November.
Have you seen the response by John O'Neill (an attorney in Houston who took over after Kerry's miracle four month tour in Vietnam)?
A copy from the Wall Street Journal is at: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005036

 

[Meursault]

At least he can PROVE he was there. Not rely on his daddy's cronies to fake his service record in the Guard.

 

[JETX]

At least he can PROVE he was there. Not rely on his daddy's cronies to fake his service record in the Guard.

Okay, I'll give you that one (after all the record appears pretty clear). And even though there are a lot of incorrect and downright ludicrous claims made about his service record, the most ACCURATE and honest account I know of on the web can be found at:
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/3671

In any case, at least his record of actually doing SOMETHING is better than Clintons!!

While on the subject of military records, which is better: to have someone who 'shaved' time of his national guard committment or:
"In the Washington Post of February 23rd, Joshua Muravchik reported that as a spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), Kerry, accused American soldiers in Vietnam, before the U.S. Congress in 1971, of... "war crimes...committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command."

Then Kerry detailed the crimes of our troops (on a day to day basis with the full awareness of officers) to the stunned senators: "They had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Kahn, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam.."

Kerry may have had reference to his own experiences, but was also referencing the statements of a group of supposed ex-service members. For his book "Stolen Valor," B.G. Burkett recontacted these authorities and found their stories were generally bogus, or they were simply impostors. Kerry appeared on Meet the Press with one fabricator, Al Hubbard, but Kerry never disassociated himself from Hubbard's lies. Nevertheless, in the wake of Kerry's testimony, and as a result of demonstrations launched by VVAW (an organization led by Kerry, and funded by Jane Fonda), the stereotype of the drug-crazed, psychologically-damaged, deranged and socially uncommunicative Vietnam veteran was spawned. Taunts of "baby-killer," and "murderer" were common. Although no war is free of atrocities, Vietnam veterans who never perpetrated or ordered such acts, were denied their deserved respect."

and
"Kerry had his first Purple Heart within 24 hours of taking command of his swiftboat on December 1,1968, and accumulated 3 such decorations for "wounds," but never spent a day in the hospital. Unfortunately, Kerry will not permit his treatment records, nor his recommendations/citations for valor, to be disclosed. Further, Kerry's biography, "Tour of Duty" by Douglas Brinkley, reprises a 2001 appearance by Kerry on Meet the Press wherein Kerry admitted to committing "the same kinds of atrocities as thousands of others" (thousands?), during his brief 5 months in the combat zone. (There were no daily acts of compassion?)"
Source: http://www.aim.org/publications/guest_columns/fielder/2004/mar18.html

Again, in my opinion... which is the lesser of two 'evils'??

 

[Meursault]

In any case, at least his record of actually doing SOMETHING is better than Clintons!!

And I'll give you that one.

As to the rest of your post, neither. However, although Kerry may not have been the most honest member of the military, as someone who, at the tender age of 18 and three days, stepped off a C-130 at Phang Rang AFB in South Viet Nam only to be greeted with drunks, drug addicts and assorted miscreants, and seeing more in my 14 months in-country than I did in years of service in some of the most disgusting situations of modern day, I can only relate to you that although these things may not have occurred during Kerry's watch, they did occur.

And not only in Nam but in Cambodia and Laos as well.

Although the recent attrocities in Iraq disgust me, they are no surprise. And they are not isolated incidents in U.S. Military history.

Iraq is a very sore spot with me. Not only because of the attrocities committed in the name of 'freedom' but because for all the good that COULD have been done, there has been an equal amount of ineptitude .

O.K. soapbox time buzzer has gone off. It's time I made another trip to Washington to shed another tear for the REAL innocent victims of war, those who went to make a difference and only made a casket.