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rmet4nzkx

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daddenied said:
I just wanted to post what the summary of my last hearing was because I had a question and needed some clarification. This is what it said-I took it off line today.

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Minute Order from Dept.: 23 Temporary Judge: (name of judge) Clerk: (Clerks name): 3:10-3:24 Nature of Hearing:(therapist name) is sub in place of CYS for therapeutic visits. He/therapist/shl reasonably co-op & communicate w/mthr. Start 9/17/05 @ noon. All prior ord not mod remain ffe. M/o serve as ord of the crt. dlf 9/21/05
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The part I want to address is where it says "all prior ordered not modified. My ex tried to tell this judge if it was necessary that ALL visits be on Saturdays and he just ignored it saying we would have to work it out, but our July 1st order states that EVERY Sat. from Aug. 13th and on until all sessions are done is when the sessions would be. Of course, the only times sessions would be off if therapist unavailable or if their actual activities are during the time period. I think she is trying to say that the children are ALL playing sports from 7am-1pm every Sat. which we all know is not true, especially because only 1 son plays basketball. I think she is insisting the 2 younger ones get signed up although it is late now, but just so they will too be busy and yet another obstable in my trying to get us all back on a healthy track. Anyway, just wondered if you could help me understand.

Thanks!
It means what it said, except for this modification(sub of therapist) all other orders remain in effect and the minute order becomes the order of the court. she can't sign the children up for sports or intefere with your visitaiton or the order of the court.

http://www.dbc.ca.gov/complaint.html This is the link for DDS complaints.

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We have spent an inordinate amount of time fulfilling your multiple requests for records. We have sent you multiple copies. You have the "records". We will not respond any further to your threats. I personally look forward to any and all attorney, or governmental, or private proceedings. I enjoy my profession far to much to be continuously harassed by someone whom I've never met. We will no longer respond to any communication from you.

Dr. N
Dear Dr. N
I am in receipt of your letter dated ---------- and various copies of the billing, correction of the billing errors caused by the patients mother providing incorrect addresses and insurance for the account. Naturally you have not met me because my existance and parental status was kept secret from you as your treatment of my children, done in good faith, was kept from me. Neither you nor I are at fault for this fact, I was merely requesting that appropriate billing be tendered and copies of the children's clinical records as allowed per state and federal law, since treatment occured without my knowledge or consent. Are you informing me that you have no clinical records for my children since you have only sent billing records? If you can clarify this matter I would greatly appreciate it and look forward to your response.

Very Truly Yours,
 
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casa

Senior Member
rmet4nzkx said:
It means what it said, except for this modification(sub of therapist) all other orders remain in effect and the minute order becomes the order of the court. she can't sign the children up for sports or intefere with your visitaiton or the order of the court.

http://www.dbc.ca.gov/complaint.html This is the link for DDS complaints.


Dear Dr. N
I am in receipt of your letter dated ---------- and various copies of the billing, correction of the billing errors caused by the patients mother providing incorrect addresses and insurance for the account. Naturally you have not met me because my existance and parental status was kept secret from you as your treatment of my children, done in good faith, was kept from me. Neither you nor I are at fault for this fact, I was merely requesting that appropriate billing be tendered and copies of the children's clinical records as allowed per state and federal law, since treatment occured without my knowledge or consent. Are you informing me that you have no clinical records for my children since you have only sent billing records? If you can clarify this matter I would greatly appreciate it and look forward to your response.

Very Truly Yours,

:D he he he
 

daddenied

Member
rmet4nzkx said:
It means what it said, except for this modification(sub of therapist) all other orders remain in effect and the minute order becomes the order of the court. she can't sign the children up for sports or intefere with your visitaiton or the order of the court.

Thank you! That's what we thought. :D


http://www.dbc.ca.gov/complaint.html This is the link for DDS complaints.


Thank you. I got so worried when I got his letter and was totally shocked again by his response.


Dear Dr. N
I am in receipt of your letter dated ---------- and various copies of the billing, correction of the billing errors caused by the patients mother providing incorrect addresses and insurance for the account. Naturally you have not met me because my existance and parental status was kept secret from you as your treatment of my children, done in good faith, was kept from me. Neither you nor I are at fault for this fact, I was merely requesting that appropriate billing be tendered and copies of the children's clinical records as allowed per state and federal law, since treatment occured without my knowledge or consent. Are you informing me that you have no clinical records for my children since you have only sent billing records? If you can clarify this matter I would greatly appreciate it and look forward to your response.

Very Truly Yours,
I think I will do this, but after my weekend. I don't want to think about my ex this weekend. :D
 

daddenied

Member
casa said:
Is the X single? Is she dating the dentist? I am apalled at this letter. It makes absolutely no sense~ as a parent can request copies as many times as they want...and with 2 parents who live separate- frequently duplicate info. on an ongoing basis. You have a Federal Right to records pertaining to your children.

I have no idea what my x is up to and for all I know she might be sleeping with all providers, some teachers and a few coaches. :eek: Just kidding...I guess that wasn't funny huh? I don't know the law obviously, but I know it is my right to have these records. :confused:

I find it suspicious you recieved a letter from X and the dentist in this time span.

We find it suspicious too, especially since the dentist himself has never responded to any of my inquiries. His secretary is the one who contacted me the two times and was actually very kind over the phone. :confused:

It's up to you if you want to respond. You sent them the SPARC letters- the dentist has obviously formed a bias. ie; your X has 'sold' him/her.

Focus on the goal. The judge ignored what he/she did for a reason. ;) Go to therapy- if X misses, document that in and out of therapy.

Your X is acting desperate. :D
I know...it's just tough. I gotta get to bed. My girl is flying out at 6:45am and I am taking her to the airport. :) I'm so glad she can get away for a while to do something for herself and have a good time with her friends in a wonderful cause. My X is acting unkind and mean besides desperate. :D Have a wonderful weekend!
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
daddenied said:
I think I will do this, but after my weekend. I don't want to think about my ex this weekend. :D
The response will leave Dr. N in a bad place but still a place to save face and cover their you know what. If they don't provide the records then they have either failed to have kept records or refused to provide them at your lawful request. Either one will cause a problem, not a big one, but a slap on the hand by the board but a slap none the less and some education.

Most likely mom has simply told them that she has sole custody or that there is some court order preventing you form having access to these records. It is really unfair to your children for her to put the children in the middle like this and is a form of contempt, a form that takes long and tedious communications to resolve.

I hope your girlfriend has a good trip.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
This citation may assist you in your communications with the providers, there are others, on the issue of consent, but this is key to your right, no matter custody to the clinical records.
CALIFORNIA CODES
FAMILY.CODE
SECTION 3020-3032
3025. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, access to records
and information pertaining to a minor child, including, but not
limited to, medical, dental, and school records, shall not be denied
to a parent because that parent is not the child's custodial parent.

Here are some more of interest to you including statutes allowing you compensation for mom's thwarting your visitation,

CALIFORNIA CODES
FAMILY.CODE
SECTION 3020-3032
3025. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, access to records and information pertaining to a minor child, including, but not limited to, medical, dental, and school records, shall not be denied to a parent because that parent is not the child's custodial parent.

3020. (a) The Legislature finds and declares that it is the public
policy of this state to assure that the health, safety, and welfare
of children shall be the court's primary concern in determining the
best interest of children when making any orders regarding the
physical or legal custody or visitation of children. The Legislature
further finds and declares that the perpetration of child abuse or
domestic violence in a household where a child resides is detrimental
to the child.
(b) The Legislature finds and declares that it is the public
policy of this state to assure that children have frequent and
continuing contact with both parents after the parents have separated
or dissolved their marriage, or ended their relationship, and to
encourage parents to share the rights and responsibilities of child
rearing in order to effect this policy, except where the contact
would not be in the best interest of the child, as provided in
Section 3011.
(c) Where the policies set forth in subdivisions (a) and (b) of
this section are in conflict, any court's order regarding physical or
legal custody or visitation shall be made in a manner that ensures
the health, safety, and welfare of the child and the safety of all
family members.


3021. This part applies in any of the following:
(a) A proceeding for dissolution of marriage.
(b) A proceeding for nullity of marriage.
(c) A proceeding for legal separation of the parties.
(d) An action for exclusive custody pursuant to Section 3120.
(e) A proceeding to determine physical or legal custody or for
visitation in a proceeding pursuant to the Domestic Violence
Prevention Act (Division 10 (commencing with Section 6200)).
In an action under Section 6323, nothing in this subdivision shall
be construed to authorize physical or legal custody, or visitation
rights, to be granted to any party to a Domestic Violence Prevention
Act proceeding who has not established a parent and child
relationship pursuant to paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section
6323.
(f) A proceeding to determine physical or legal custody or
visitation in an action pursuant to the Uniform Parentage Act (Part 3
(commencing with Section 7600) of Division 12).
(g) A proceeding to determine physical or legal custody or
visitation in an action brought by the district attorney pursuant to
Section 17404.


3024. In making an order for custody, if the court does not
consider it inappropriate, the court may specify that a parent shall
notify the other parent if the parent plans to change the residence
of the child for more than 30 days, unless there is prior written
agreement to the removal. The notice shall be given before the
contemplated move, by mail, return receipt requested, postage
prepaid, to the last known address of the parent to be notified. A
copy of the notice shall also be sent to that parent's counsel of
record. To the extent feasible, the notice shall be provided within
a minimum of 45 days before the proposed change of residence so as to
allow time for mediation of a new agreement concerning custody.
This section does not affect orders made before January 1, 1989.

3025.5. In any proceeding involving child custody or visitation
rights, if a report containing psychological evaluations of a child
or recommendations regarding custody of, or visitation with, a child
is submitted to the court, including, but not limited to, a report
created pursuant to Chapter 6 (commencing with Section 3110) of this
part, a recommendation made to the court pursuant to Section 3183,
and a written statement of issues and contentions pursuant to
subdivision (b) of Section 3151, that information shall be contained
in a document that shall be placed in the confidential portion of the
court file of the proceeding, and may not be disclosed, except to
the following persons:

(a) A party to the proceeding and his or her attorney.
(b) A federal or state law enforcement officer, judicial officer,
court employee, or family court facilitator for the county in which
the action was filed, or an employee or agent of that facilitator,
acting within the scope of his or her duties.
(c) Counsel appointed for the child pursuant to Section 3150.
(d) Any other person upon order of the court for good cause.

3028. (a) The court may order financial compensation for periods
when a parent fails to assume the caretaker responsibility or when a
parent has been thwarted by the other parent when attempting to
exercise custody or visitation rights contemplated by a custody or
visitation order, including, but not limited to, an order for joint
physical custody, or by a written or oral agreement between the
parents.

(b) The compensation shall be limited to (1) the reasonable
expenses incurred for or on behalf of a child, resulting from the
other parent's failure to assume caretaker responsibility or (2) the
reasonable expenses incurred by a parent for or on behalf of a child,
resulting from the other parent's thwarting of the parent's efforts
to exercise custody or visitation rights. The expenses may include
the value of caretaker services but are not limited to the cost of
services provided by a third party during the relevant period.
(c) The compensation may be requested by noticed motion or an
order to show cause, which shall allege, under penalty of perjury,
(1) a minimum of one hundred dollars ($100) of expenses incurred or
(2) at least three occurrences of failure to exercise custody or
visitation rights or (3) at least three occurrences of the thwarting
of efforts to exercise custody or visitation rights within the six
months before filing of the motion or order.
(d) Attorney's fees shall be awarded to the prevailing party upon
a showing of the nonprevailing party's ability to pay as required by
Section 270.

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rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
CALIFORNIA CODES
FAMILY.CODE
SECTION 6920-6929

6920. Subject to the limitations provided in this chapter,
notwithstanding any other provision of law, a minor may consent to
the matters provided in this chapter, and the consent of the minor's
parent or guardian is not necessary.

6921. A consent given by a minor under this chapter is not subject
to disaffirmance because of minority.

6922. (a) A minor may consent to the minor's medical care or dental
care if all of the following conditions are satisfied:
(1) The minor is 15 years of age or older.
(2) The minor is living separate and apart from the minor's
parents or guardian, whether with or without the consent of a parent
or guardian and regardless of the duration of the separate residence.
(3) The minor is managing the minor's own financial affairs,
regardless of the source of the minor's income.
(b) The parents or guardian are not liable for medical care or
dental care provided pursuant to this section.
(c) A physician and surgeon or dentist may, with or without the
consent of the minor patient, advise the minor's parent or guardian
of the treatment given or needed if the physician and surgeon or
dentist has reason to know, on the basis of the information given by
the minor, the whereabouts of the parent or guardian.


6924. (a) As used in this section:
(1) "Mental health treatment or counseling services" means the
provision of mental health treatment or counseling on an outpatient
basis by any of the following:
(A) A governmental agency.
(B) A person or agency having a contract with a governmental
agency to provide the services.
(C) An agency that receives funding from community united funds.
(D) A runaway house or crisis resolution center.
(E) A professional person, as defined in paragraph (2).
(2) "Professional person" means any of the following:
(A) A person designated as a mental health professional in
Sections 622 to 626, inclusive, of Article 8 of Subchapter 3 of
Chapter 1 of Title 9 of the California Code of Regulations.
(B) A marriage and family therapist as defined in Chapter 13
(commencing with Section 4980) of Division 2 of the Business and
Professions Code.
(C) A licensed educational psychologist as defined in Article 5
(commencing with Section 4986) of Chapter 13 of Division 2 of the
Business and Professions Code.
(D) A credentialed school psychologist as described in Section
49424 of the Education Code.
(E) A clinical psychologist as defined in Section 1316.5 of the
Health and Safety Code.
(F) The chief administrator of an agency referred to in paragraph
(1) or (3).
(G) A marriage and family therapist registered intern, as defined
in Chapter 13 (commencing with Section 4980) of Division 2 of the
Business and Professions Code, while working under the supervision of
a licensed professional specified in subdivision (f) of Section
4980.40 of the Business and Professions Code.
(3) "Residential shelter services" means any of the following:
(A) The provision of residential and other support services to
minors on a temporary or emergency basis in a facility that services
only minors by a governmental agency, a person or agency having a
contract with a governmental agency to provide these services, an
agency that receives funding from community funds, or a licensed
community care facility or crisis resolution center.
(B) The provision of other support services on a temporary or
emergency basis by any professional person as defined in paragraph
(2).
(b) A minor who is 12 years of age or older may consent to mental
health treatment or counseling on an outpatient basis, or to
residential shelter services, if both of the following requirements
are satisfied:

(1) The minor, in the opinion of the attending professional
person, is mature enough to participate intelligently in the
outpatient services or residential shelter services.
(2) The minor (A) would present a danger of serious physical or
mental harm to self or to others without the mental health treatment
or counseling or residential shelter services, or (B) is the alleged
victim of incest or child abuse.
(c) A professional person offering residential shelter services,
whether as an individual or as a representative of an entity
specified in paragraph (3) of subdivision (a), shall make his or her
best efforts to notify the parent or guardian of the provision of
services.
(d) The mental health treatment or counseling of a minor
authorized by this section shall include involvement of the minor's
parent or guardian unless, in the opinion of the professional person
who is treating or counseling the minor, the involvement would be
inappropriate. The professional person who is treating or counseling
the minor shall state in the client record whether and when the
person attempted to contact the minor's parent or guardian, and
whether the attempt to contact was successful or unsuccessful, or the
reason why, in the professional person's opinion, it would be
inappropriate to contact the minor's parent or guardian.
(e) The minor's parents or guardian are not liable for payment for mental health treatment or counseling services provided pursuant to this section unless the parent or guardian participates in the mental health treatment or counseling, and then only for services rendered with the participation of the parent or guardian. The minor's parents or guardian are not liable for payment for any residential shelter services provided pursuant to this section unless the parent or guardian consented to the provision of those services
.
(f) This section does not authorize a minor to receive convulsive
therapy or psychosurgery as defined in subdivisions (f) and (g) of
Section 5325 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, or psychotropic
drugs without the consent of the minor's parent or guardian.

CA CODES
FAMILY.CODE
SECTION 6550-6552

6550. (a) A caregiver's authorization affidavit that meets the
requirements of this part authorizes a caregiver 18 years of age or
older who completes items 1 to 4, inclusive, of the affidavit
provided in Section 6552 and signs the affidavit to enroll a minor in
school and consent to school-related medical care on behalf of the
minor. A caregiver who is a relative and who completes items 1 to 8,
inclusive, of the affidavit provided in Section 6552 and signs the
affidavit shall have the same rights to authorize medical care and
dental care for the minor that are given to guardians under Section
2353 of the Probate Code. The medical care authorized by this
caregiver who is a relative may include mental health treatment
subject to the limitations of Section 2356 of the Probate Code.
(b) The decision of a caregiver to consent to or to refuse medical
or dental care for a minor shall be superseded by any contravening
decision of the parent or other person having legal custody of the
minor, provided the decision of the parent or other person having
legal custody of the minor does not jeopardize the life, health, or
safety of the minor.
(c) A person who acts in good faith reliance on a caregiver's
authorization affidavit to provide medical or dental care, without
actual knowledge of facts contrary to those stated on the affidavit,
is not subject to criminal liability or to civil liability to any
person, and is not subject to professional disciplinary action, for
that reliance if the applicable portions of the affidavit are
completed. This subdivision applies even if medical or dental care
is provided to a minor in contravention of the wishes of the parent
or other person having legal custody of the minor as long as the
person providing the medical or dental care has no actual knowledge
of the wishes of the parent or other person having legal custody of
the minor.

(d) A person who relies on the affidavit has no obligation to make
any further inquiry or investigation.
(e) Nothing in this section relieves any individual from liability
for violations of other provisions of law.
(f) If the minor stops living with the caregiver, <>
(g) A caregiver's authorization affidavit shall be invalid,<>
(h) For purposes of this part, the following terms have the
following meanings:
(1) "Person" <>
(2) "Relative" means a spouse, parent, <>
(3) "School-related medical care" <>

CA CODES
FAMILY.CODE
SECTION 6900-6903
6900. Unless the provision or context otherwise requires, the
definitions in this chapter govern the construction of this part.

6901. "Dental care" <>
6902. "Medical care"<>
6903. "Parent or guardian" <>
 

daddenied

Member
rmet4nzkx said:
The response will leave Dr. N in a bad place but still a place to save face and cover their you know what. If they don't provide the records then they have either failed to have kept records or refused to provide them at your lawful request. Either one will cause a problem, not a big one, but a slap on the hand by the board but a slap none the less and some education.

Most likely mom has simply told them that she has sole custody or that there is some court order preventing you form having access to these records. It is really unfair to your children for her to put the children in the middle like this and is a form of contempt, a form that takes long and tedious communications to resolve.

I hope your girlfriend has a good trip.
I have yet to respond to the dentist. My internet service was not up this past weekend, but now it is up and running. My girlfriend successfully completed the walk although she has horrible blisters under her feet, but she had a wonderful time there. I'm so glad.

My ex may have told the dentist that she has sole custody, but his office was provided with a copy of the court order. I am worried as to what to say or do next. I haven't read your next post, but will after posting this.

Thanks!
 

daddenied

Member
I just saw your post with all the helps for me...thank you. I appreciate all of it. I really believe I will need to get an attorney soon to help me out although I'm not sure where the money is going to come from.
 

daddenied

Member
Ex Wifes Latest Email

I received these two email messages from my ex today. This one first titled "Therapeutic Setting"
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Please be advised that after meeting with (Therapist Name), the children are extremely uncomfortable in his presence. Our sons felt they were being manipulated and their concerns were being summarily dismissed as irrelevant. If you truly wish to repair your relationship with the boys, you will acknowledge these feelings of discomfort and seek an alternate therapeutic setting for your visitations. When you seek a new setting, the boys are requesting, once again, that you seek out a female therapist.

I have already spoken to Family Court Services regarding this matter and they informed me that it would behoove you to honor and acknowledge the boys’ requests.

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This lady is killing me! If you knew our children, you would know that they one don't even use the words manipulate and I don't think they even know what it means. Those are HER words, not theirs! Or, whatever tey are saying this is HER interpretation. I swear she is raising our sons to be scared of their own shadows. They have male teachers and coaches, who by the way openly holler and yell at them while practicing and in games, yet the only male authority figures they are scared of is me and NOW the therapist.

I don't know what part of there is NO other therapist in Fresno that will work on Saturdays and/or accept my insurance. I believe this is just another ploy of hers to further delay my rectifying of our very injured relationship that she has caused MOST of between my sons and I. :(
I sent a copy of this to my girlfriend and we both agreed that this email would go ignored and unanswered. If she wants to change the therapist she can spend her own money filing a motion to do so and it will not be heard for at least 6 weeks in the Fresno County unless she is pulling strings in that court too. :confused: Are we being foolish not to reply?

Okay, then a little while later I received a second email message titled (outside therapeutic visitation visits) that said:

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Reminder - You are only to have visitation with our sons within the confines of a therapeutic, supervised setting. Previously, you have failed to comply with the order by appearing at (1st son’s) football practice and approaching him on the sidelines. Be advised that if you attempt to confront/contact (1st son) while he is in (LA County) for his football game this week, you are again, in direct defiance of the Order.
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Again, this lady is KILLING ME! Nowhere in the order does it say I cannot attend our children's sporting events. It seems to be her only goal in life to keep our children away from me. How do I fight what seems to be a losing battle? I hate being negative, but when I get crap like this, I feel crappy...that's the most appropriate word I can think of right now. :eek: I want to ignore this email too, but my girlfriend said maybe I should respond and say something in the gist of:

I'm sorry it seems your job isn't keeping you busy enough giving you too much time on your hand to think up ways to keep me away from our children. :( I am anxiously awaiting Friday night's football game to watch (1st son) play. I switched shifts at work just to be sure I can make it. My parents will probably be there too. I hope he gets some playing time. Maybe you should come along too then you won't have to sit at home worrying all night long about my seeing 1st son. You can even sit with us since you don't know anyone here. Have a good week"

I think it's a funny email, but I don't even want to waste my time replying. I'm still on the "don't reply" kick. My girlfriend said it was a mere suggestion. :rolleyes: I don't blame her wanting to get a little bit of fun out of this. We've been through a lot, and she's especially been through way more than she deserves standing next to me in this fight.

Let me know what you all think.

:D
 
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rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
I am glad yor girlfriend is safely reurned from her walkathon and that her blisters quickly heal.
The letter I drafted allows him the opportunity to provide the clinical records so there is no mistake what is requested. If he doesn't respond then there is the ocmplaint route which will educate him. Do you know if the other theripist has forwarded your oldest son's records to the court appointed therapist?
Hang in there.
 

casa

Senior Member
daddenied said:
I received these two email messages from my ex today. This one first titled "Therapeutic Setting"
______________________________________________
Please be advised that after meeting with (Therapist Name), the children are extremely uncomfortable in his presence. Our sons felt they were being manipulated and their concerns were being summarily dismissed as irrelevant. If you truly wish to repair your relationship with the boys, you will acknowledge these feelings of discomfort and seek an alternate therapeutic setting for your visitations. When you seek a new setting, the boys are requesting, once again, that you seek out a female therapist.

I have already spoken to Family Court Services regarding this matter and they informed me that it would behoove you to honor and acknowledge the boys’ requests.
---------------------------------------------------------------
This lady is killing me! If you knew our children, you would know that they one don't even use the words manipulate and I don't think they even know what it means. Those are HER words, not theirs! Or, whatever tey are saying this is HER interpretation. I swear she is raising our sons to be scared of their own shadows. They have male teachers and coaches, who by the way openly holler and yell at them while practicing and in games, yet the only male authority figures they are scared of is me and NOW the therapist.

I don't know what part of there is NO other therapist in Fresno that will work on Saturdays and/or accept my insurance. I believe this is just another ploy of hers to further delay my rectifying of our very injured relationship that she has caused MOST of between my sons and I. :(
I sent a copy of this to my girlfriend and we both agreed that this email would go ignored and unanswered. If she wants to change the therapist she can spend her own money filing a motion to do so and it will not be heard for at least 6 weeks in the Fresno County unless she is pulling strings in that court too. :confused: Are we being foolish not to reply?
She's not the judge- a decision was already made that the boys see this therapist. I suspect when you go to your visit with the boys- they act fine. :cool:

I think it's becoming obvious that mother will try to circumvent and manipulate visitation as long as she can get away with it. Show up for the visitations. If she doesn't- she is in contempt of court order <again :rolleyes: > I think a reasonable judge would not be fooled by this recent tactic. The boys are suddenly afraid and uncomfortable when around you or anyone who supports your relationship with them? hmmmm :eek:
 

daddenied

Member
rmet4nzkx said:
I am glad yor girlfriend is safely reurned from her walkathon and that her blisters quickly heal.
The letter I drafted allows him the opportunity to provide the clinical records so there is no mistake what is requested. If he doesn't respond then there is the ocmplaint route which will educate him. Do you know if the other theripist has forwarded your oldest son's records to the court appointed therapist?
Hang in there.

She has yet to do this, BUT I received something in the mail from her over the weekend. It was a copy of billing statement dated Apr. 2003 through Mar 2005. It seemed strange, and I can't quite explain it, but it seems strange the dates of the supposed visits. I will post it tomorrow when I get home so you can comment. Nothing else was enclosed. :confused: Tonight I will reply to the dentist using your letter. Thanks!
 

daddenied

Member
casa said:
She's not the judge- a decision was already made that the boys see this therapist. I suspect when you go to your visit with the boys- they act fine. :cool:

I think it's becoming obvious that mother will try to circumvent and manipulate visitation as long as she can get away with it. Show up for the visitations. If she doesn't- she is in contempt of court order <again :rolleyes: > I think a reasonable judge would not be fooled by this recent tactic. The boys are suddenly afraid and uncomfortable when around you or anyone who supports your relationship with them? hmmmm :eek:
I sure hope so. Thanks for the post. It made me feel a lot better.
 
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