mom wants to sign over custody dont understand why

[Reyna7]

Hmmmm

Lets see, she is born and at the age of 10 her parents decided they want a larger family and then have one almost every year for the next 9 years, that explains why she is 24, yet has 9 brothers and sisters ages 5-14. She has had her parents die, a fiance get murdered, her brother at the age of 12 get a girl pregnant and she gives birth to twins, she then dies...now she has her new BF and his ex GF is popping out kids left and right and giving them to her to raise.

HUH???? OMG, this sounds like a really horrible movie of the week or something of Lifetime...and I do not believe any of it.

 

[TNBSMommy]

Reyna, he isn't her bf, she married him, apparently while his ex was pregnant, with his child.

 

[LdiJ]

Not only did she quickly get over her dead fiance, but she married a man whose ex JUST LAST WEEK gave birth to his third child..If he was with her that recently, that doesnt leave alot of time between her and him getting together, and marrying...

By lonelyandsad:

NOT TO MENTION~there is another passed away person indirectly in relation to this girl...her step childrens' grandmother on the moms side...

Good lord, I am nottrying to be mean, but I barely made it through my own parents deaths(no 9 siblings, only one who was 17 when our last parent passed away) I think I would have to have myself committed with all this that has "gone on" in your life...

I think that's a little bit more than just indirect. If it isn't a funeral you would normally attend (and I doubt that many spouses would attend the funeral of their spouse's ex spouse's parent (that doesn't even sound right in english...lol) then that particular death probably wouldn't effect her or anyone else in her shoes....at least not to the point of actually grieving.

 

[haiku]

at one point she was also going for custody of her dead fiance's FIVE children........

 

[TNBSMommy]

No, you are right, LdiJ, however it does effect two, or is that now three, of the people living in her house...even though they are too young to remember the grandmother.

 

[Reyna7]

When

Reyna, he isn't her bf, she married him, apparently while his ex was pregnant, with his child.

When would she have time for a wedding...???

 

[haiku]

Dead fiance, dead young mother, dead grandma, not to mention the 'original" dead parents.....leaving you with a possible 25 children at 24...nothin strange about this, I see it all the time!

 

[LdiJ]

Ok...guys, while I understand where everyone is coming from...but she has been on this board for more than 6 months now....that would be an awfully long time to maintain a "fantasy" or to be pulling our legs. While its obvious that some posts that get on boards like these are done just to play games...they don't last six months.

 

[stealth2]

I beg to differ - because when the questions get asked, she simply ignores the questions and lays low for a bit.

 

[haiku]

Ok...guys, while I understand where everyone is coming from...but she has been on this board for more than 6 months now....that would be an awfully long time to maintain a "fantasy" or to be pulling our legs. While its obvious that some posts that get on boards like these are done just to play games...they don't last six months.

A few years ago I lurked at a step moms board, there was a 23 year old girl on there, who claimed to be married to a much older very rich man with a stalker ex wife.....she went through infertitlity treatments, gave birth to premature twins, all while being 'harrassed'. her husband kept moving her to more elaborate locales. As people do on support sites, they got very wrapped up in her threads, helping her decide on her babies name, giving her support, and a shoulder to cry on....the admin even changed her user name a few times to help her avoid 'the stalker".Well it alll unraveled in a YEAR, when one of the caring posters was going to be visiting in her area and wanted to meet her. Turns out after a little internet sleuthing into her "identity" she was actually some 40 year old woman who was single and childless to boot.....She actually attempted new identites twice after that on the site.

Another debating site I frequent has a few stories like this I could tell also, of people living some pretty interesting fantasy lives that unravel further and further, as they continue to post and forget the minute details they posted earlier.....there is a poster there who has done and continues to do it, everyone knows, and we just kinda humour her along....because she at least seems harmless enough, seems like a lost soul who needs to do it, and has not 'hurt' anyone....

Some people want to make thier lives more interesting, the only way they can is to live a fantasy life, its easy to do on the 'net.

 

[LdiJ]

I beg to differ - because when the questions get asked, she simply ignores the questions and lays low for a bit.

That's a valid point too....but there could be more than one reason for that.
I really didn't mean to start a big debate or even really to discount what the rest of you think. I have just seen assumptions get made about people on boards like these that turn out later to be totally incorrect. I have been guilty of that myself and feel very badly about it, therefore I tend to go the other direction if I think it could be happening. So that's all...its just my own need to "defend the underdog"...because I made mistakes in the past.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

I think Alices summation was about right and helps clarify the situation. Funny thing we didn't hear much about dead Fiance Keith's child who should have been born in late November 2004 if she was 6 months pregnant in August, funny she is talking about Keith's parents adopting HER child while trying to adopt the siblings. This recent marriage at one point it was to take place next year, then on 12-28-4 she stated it occured 12-26-4 yet she is posting on the forum 5 times that day? Very strange for a person with 17 children in her house including an infant. I will include some of her posts here as it is always better to get it straight from the source.
Birthday: November 22, 1980
Biography: 23/24 yr old single mother of twin girls also raising 9 siblings ages 5-14 (add brother's twins, her newborn & husband Stefan's 3 children = 17 children 8<4 yrs old
Location: nyc
Interests: pro wrestling,baseball,travel,dinning out,movies
Occupation: stay at home mom

Thread #1

07-07-2004, 10:37 AM
do i have a right to fiance's kids?
NY...my fiance was recently murdered,leaving behind 5 children.i ahve custody of my 9 younger siblings,ages 5-14(my parents both died,and i couldnt bear to see them seperated.) i was thinking of asking my cousin and his wife to assume guardianship if something should happen to me.how would we go about this,and would the state intervene? we do have azunts and uncles,but they have a lot of children to care for already(my cousin and his wife have 2) .thanks

Thread #2

07-05-2004, 09:59 PM
can my cousins be guardians?
Posted By lonelyandsad
my fiance was recently murdered,leaving behind 5 children.i ahve custody of my 9 younger siblings,ages 5-14(my parents both died,and i couldnt bear to see them seperated.) i was thinking of asking my cousin and his wife to assume guardianship if something should happen to me.how would we go about this,and would the state intervene? we do have azunts and uncles,but they have a lot of children to care for already(my cousin and his wife have 2) .thanks

Thread #3 where she is pregnant with dead fiance's Keith) child and she was looking to have his parents adopt the child this was dated 8-9-4 has she had this child yet? Remember she has recently married someone else Stefan on 12-26-4, she should have had this child Keith sometime in November 2004. What happened to this child and why does Kelly ignore our questions?
Apparently lonelyandsad, AKA Kelly had dead finace's son, little Keith by late November 2004.

11-24-2004, 10:40 PM
lonelyandsad
to miss purrfect
mss purrfect,that sounds exactly like my twins father,theyre 14 months old,their father hasnt called them since august,and he owes 12,000 in child support.i dont have the time to run all over the us looking for him to get him to take care of his daughters,besides my fiance loves them like they are his own,as soon as we get married,he plans to adopt them.you'll find a man who will love your child like he/she is their own,just like i did.im mommy and dady to my girls.good luck,and let us know how youre doing. kelly mommy to karen and lisa and keith

Thread #4 Marriage supposed took place 12-26-4

11-06-2004, 11:52 PM-ny.i have legal custody of my nine younger siblings ages 5-14.im getting married next year,and want to legally adopt them,if possible,and be their legal mother.is that a possibilty? my fiance also wants to adopt all of them as well.what steps would we need to take to acomplish this? thanks....ny-both of our parents are dead.mom died in 2003,dad died last january,i went to court and got custody.

Thread #5 November 2004 about the time latest child from dead fiance Keith is due and prior to impending marriage.

11-13-2004, 12:39 AM-by i have full custody of my 14 month old twins daughters,their father gets them 1 month in the summer and 2 weeeks for xmas.the loast time i heard from him was august,when he vrought the girls back from minnesota(where he lived).i have not heard from him or gotten any child support for 3 months,then out of the blue,he calls from canada(of all places) and says hes filing for custody of the girls,claiming im not allowing him contact with them,which is a lie! he knows my phone number,he could call anytime,now he wants to pull this crap!i had no idea he was in canada untill he called me,and im scared to death.does he have a chance to get custody of the girls? they barely know him. im in nyc,btw.

Thread #6

11-17-2004, 09:12 PM ny my 14 yr old brothers gf recently died,leaving behind twins,a boy and a girl who turn 2 next month.a paternity test was given at the time jessi had the twins,and it proved my brother was the father,and hes been doing what he can to support them,and be part of thier lives.there was no custody.visitation order,jessi and josh agreed to share custody.josh would like to get custody of the twins,but is scared to call social services,fearing theyll be taken away from him.what rights does he have? i dont want the twins taken away either,their mother was a good friend of mine,and she'd want josh to raise them.not to mention they are my niece and nephew.we are financially secure,and feel its best for kasey and jason(the twins) to be with us...he and jessi were 12 when they had them.they lived 50 percent of the time with each of them,the twins will be 2 yrs old dec 6.my fiance and i are more then willing to help him out with kasey and jay,the twins.and they have many aunts,uncles and cousins around too.gotta go,wwe smackdown is on!...im 23 will be 24 this coming mon,nov 22.id rather have kasey and jay with family then with strangers.
,,,,, Notice OP never answers questions once the child count rises and her story begins to sound bizzare.
11-19-2004 06:41 AM
casa Are you sure you can support and care for let's see...9 siblings, your own twins, brother's toddler twins?? Do you also take care of the deceased fiance's children? How big is your house? I mean- I think you are risk of overdoing it here and then you are at risk of losing your own children if any of the <at least> 11 are found to be not properly cared for.

Seems there are a lot of family members having A LOT of children in this scenario
11-19-2004 04:00 AM
stealth2 And wait a minute - you are also pregnant? Or have you had the baby already? https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=190003

Either you people are all totally disfunctional or you're telling a very tall tale.

Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth2
Wait one. You had a fiance that "recently died" back in July, and now you have ANOTHER fiance? Or are you pulling everyone's legs? And while I realize NYC can be a dangerous place, what is up with all these people you know dying? Your mother, your stepfather, this friend of yours that your bro knocked up, your fiance...

Come on now - come clean.

11-19-2004 03:42 AM
haiku okee dokie.....9 kids from dead parents, 2 sets of out of wedlock twins, and 6 kids from dead fiance
https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=185768

continued...

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Part 2 same song different verse:
Thread #7

i have full custody of my 15 month old twins girls,their father is supposed to have them 1 month in the summer,and 2 weeks for christmas.i havent heard from him since augsut,when he brought the girls back from their visitation,nor has he paid any child support since then.been trying to reach him all this time,and have been unsucessful.im getting married in 2 days,and would like my soon to be husband to adopt my daughters.how long will there have to be no contact or child support before i can have his rights terminated? i live in ny.hes in minnesota....12-23-2004 07:20 PM
lonelyandsad this is about karen and lisa,my daughters.

Thread #8 reference to 12-26-4 wedding, BTW OP was online 5 times on her wedding day, some honeymoon.

i just got married sun.in new york state,how long will we have to be married before we could adopt my younger siblings ages 5-14?any info would be great.thanks...12-28-2004 02:37 PM
lonelyandsad oops sorry.our parents are dead,im their legal guardian,im 24 years old,no,we didnt get married just to adopt the kids,my husband and i love them very much,we want to be their mom and dad,yes,we all live in new york.we'll probaly wait a year or so,like next wife suggested,to make sure the marriage will work.they call us mom and dad,and we want to make it legal.
And people are asking....12-30-2004 11:02 AM

howamidoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by MandyD
She either has a black cloud the size of Texas hanging over her and anyone she comes in contact with, or she has a Texas sized imagination.
I was just thinking about that, how many people died? How many kids are there? And if her fiance was murdered, who did she just marry? If there are so many people around how can she be lonely? I got the sad part.....all the deaths...Geez if this is real, Man I apologize but I cant see it.
12-30-2004 10:31 AM
MandyD She either has a black cloud the size of Texas hanging over her and anyone she comes in contact with, or she has a Texas sized imagination.
12-29-2004 09:20 AM
haiku what happened to all the OTHER kids?..

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=185561

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=204652

And other references
01-01-2005, 06:25 AM
lonelyandsad

id known stefan since he was in the 6th grade,so i know him pretty well.im sorry about implying that you were meddling,i know you only want whats best for this little girl.you love her,like my husband loves my sibs and my kids.good luck to all of you!
.....
i know what its like to lose a parent,i lost both of mine within a few months of each other,and im now raising my younger siblings by myself......
12-12-2004, 03:53 PM
lonelyandsad
not a welfare mom tyvm
kat,im not on welfare,not that its any of your business.you take care of your kids,and let me worry about taking care of mine.
....
12-07-2004, 06:50 PM
lonelyandsad
sounds like my knuckleheaded brother.
when mom told josh about the facts of life,i wish he'd listened.instead,it went in one ear and out the other.now hes gotta parent 2 yr old twins at 14.i know josh loves them to peices,but he has njo idea what hes getting himself into,

A threat or a promise?
12-05-2004, 06:43 AM
lonelyandsad
see ya!
fine i wont post here anymore,since i dont get any real help anyway.thanks for everything!

Lonelyandsad gets into trouble for foul language
11-25-2004, 05:22 PM
lonelyandsad

bio mom is a selfish b****
why the hell does his sistet think she has a right to decide wether or not he sees his child? did he screw her and get her pregnant? no he didnt,shes gone way over the line,and mind her own business.its between the bio parents,and noone else,not aunts,uncles,stepfathers,or anyone else.go to court and get visitation,and if she refuses,file for custody.
Last edited by m martin : 11-26-2004 at 03:06 PM.

11-25-2004, 06:24 PM
Hisbabygirl77
lonely and sad work on your anger issues it is really unhealthy for kids to be around that kind of bitterness and anger sheesh! I would hate to see how you react to something bad that actually happens in your life. Poor babies.

11-25-2004, 09:19 PM
lonelyandsad
an apology
i aplogize for my language.im sorry.guess ive been watchintg too much maury on tv,the paternity tests ones,where the wives,gf's fiancees and others think they have a right to meddle in it.and youre right i need to work on my anger,im angry because my twins father has nothing to do with them,and im raising them alone,plus other things.it was no excuse for my language,however.


Note brother's father died Jan 2004, car crash, Mother dies September 2003 so this advice may have been given shortly before mother's death <age 11 and his children born about the time his mother died, the mother of his twins also died although with all the deaths, parents, fiance, murdered and brother children's mother none are explained except father and fiance. Hummm

11-21-2004, 01:18 AM
stealth2
Quote:
Originally Posted by lonelyandsad
she should be spending time with her daughter instead of spreading her legs for every tom dick and harry in town.what kind of example is that for a 3 yr old?

Uuuuh, pots should really not call kettles black, sweetheart. You have young twins (14 mos, give or take?) and a newborn, right? And you're not married? And your little brother is the father of 2 at 14? You might want to take care of business in your own home before casting stones.

11-21-2004, 02:26 AM
--PARIDISE--
Plus 9 kids. She had twins, and a newborn. Her boyfriend died, her parents died, and her 12 yr old brother had twins with the mother that died.

I'm still speechless over this poster.

Originally Posted by lonelyandsad
im a mother AND a father to all 12 kids,and i wouldnt have it any other way! they mean everything in the world to me

12-03-2004, 12:09 PM

Seventeen year old wants to adopt.
wow,what a terrific young man you are! ive been raising my 9 younger siblings,ages 5-14,since last january(2004?) when my dad died in a car accident(my mom died a year ago in sept)(2003)and ive been raising them ever since,they call me mom,and my fiance stefan dad.when stefan and i get married,we plan to adopt all of them,then we will legally be mom and dad.

[/QUOTE]



Perhaps Kelly said it best herself:
Pregnant 14 yr old
Posted By lonelyandsad
jerry jerry jerry jerry jerry!

ny-yeah and youll end up on jerry springer! hehehe

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Reyna, he isn't her bf, she married him, apparently while his ex was pregnant, with his child.

And she was pregnant with dead fiance Keith's child which was born Sometime in November 2004.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Ok...guys, while I understand where everyone is coming from...but she has been on this board for more than 6 months now....that would be an awfully long time to maintain a "fantasy" or to be pulling our legs. While its obvious that some posts that get on boards like these are done just to play games...they don't last six months.

What do you mean she has been challenged many times and never responds. We specifically asked if she was pulling our legs!