Noisy Kid/Bad Mother

[Brookston]

What is the name of your state? Illinois

We recently moved into a new place. It is an old house that has been converted into a 2 flat. The trailer-trash-teen-drug-addict mother living above us has a 2.5 year old, and another in the oven. Her troll... err child runs around pounding and jumping all day and night long. Mom's response to any complaints about it is that it is 2.5 years old, like that somehow releases her from any responsibility she has for it.


Are noisy kids something the police can deal with? At what point is too much noise against the law?

I've been thinking about recording the pounding and then replaying it through my amplifier all day long so that they can hear it too, what do you think?

At what point can we tell the LL that the upstairs neighbors are making an unacceptable amount of noise and that we plan to look for another place and break the lease?

Any advice will be welcome and appreciated,

sleep deprived,
Brookston

 

[BL]

What is the name of your state? Illinois

We recently moved into a new place. It is an old house that has been converted into a 2 flat. The trailer-trash-teen-drug-addict mother living above us has a 2.5 year old, and another in the oven. Her troll... err child runs around pounding and jumping all day and night long. Mom's response to any complaints about it is that it is 2.5 years old, like that somehow releases her from any responsibility she has for it.


Are noisy kids something the police can deal with? At what point is too much noise against the law?

I've been thinking about recording the pounding and then replaying it through my amplifier all day long so that they can hear it too, what do you think?

At what point can we tell the LL that the upstairs neighbors are making an unacceptable amount of noise and that we plan to look for another place and break the lease?

Any advice will be welcome and appreciated,

sleep deprived,
Brookston

A child is not an it .

What does your lease state about neighbors ?

What does your local noise codes involve ? I bet not tenant's stomping .

And don't come back on me , been there many time and right now I got one above that moves furniture around often and for hrs. and sometimes 2 or 3 days , cause the demons are after her .

 

[Brookston]

A child is not an it .

This one is.

 

[HomeGuru]

This one is.

**A: wasn't there a Cousin It on Adams Family.

 

[>Charlotte<]

This one is.

No, he or she is not.

I'm sure you meant no offense to anyone here, but you're in a place where a lot of posters (mostly reluctant step-parents or fathers) who are resentful of certain children in their lives attempt to dehumanize them by referring to them as "it". Many of the regular posters here, understandably, find that offensive. It would be appreciated if you would please be respectful of that.

 

[Hot Topic]

Pardon me for not recognizing you as a regular poster, Cit747, as you speak on behalf of "many of the posters here."

I think the very natural behavior of a child that age is an excuse to pass judgement on the mother, whom the OP seems to know a great deal about. If the mother is taking drugs and creating a harmful environment for the child, why not worry more about that than the noise? And if the mother is pregnant, how is that the OP's business?

 

[clintonkatie]

I have a 2.5 year old daughter. I would say that for 90% of the time she is awake she is running. It's what kids that age do. They are in constant motion. I happen to be a fabulous mother, but that does not stop my child from running, jumping and exploring her world. How about using some white noise in your apartment or maybe asking that they not wear shoes upstairs.

 

[ecmst12]

The people that live above me have two small children. I semi-affectionately refer to them as "the monsters upstairs" because of the constant running/jumping/chasing that occurrs. However, I have accepted it as one of the things you just have to deal with when you live in an apartment and share the floor/ceiling with other people. The kids go to bed before I do so it doesn't keep me up at night, and if it interferes with me sleeping in on the weekends, that's why I have ear plugs. They do not have to keep the children in a cage or tiptoe around their home. Toddlers like to run around - it's normal behavior. They're just figuring out how to do it, so they do it a LOT. Noise laws usually only refer to noise that can be heard outside of the building, not from one apartment to the other. "Quiet enjoyment" is a vague term. If you don't like the running, move to a place where you are on the top floor, or the units are all carpeted, or there are no children in the unit above you. I can't speak to whether the mother actually has a drug problem or you are making unfounded assumptions, but stopping a toddler from running around and playing would not make her a better mother.

 

[mike_lee]

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[Silverplum]

Pardon me for not recognizing you as a regular poster, Cit747, as you speak on behalf of "many of the posters here."

Unnecessarily, pointlessly bitchy, much?

Cit747 is an excellent poster in the Family Law section. *I* recognize the poster...not that it's a *requirement* around here.

 

[>Charlotte<]

Pardon me for not recognizing you as a regular poster, Clt747, as you speak on behalf of "many of the posters here."

I don't presume to speak on anyone's behalf. I was explaining to the OP, as politely as I could, why s/he is likely to take some heat by calling a child "it". The fact that it offends many of the posters on this forum is simply a statement of fact. The next time you must choose an inference, I wouldn't mind being given the benefit of the doubt.

Clt747 is an excellent poster in the Family Law section. *I* recognize the poster...not that it's a *requirement* around here.

Thank you, Silver. Chocolate, please?

 

[Silverplum]

I don't presume to speak on anyone's behalf. I was explaining to the OP, as politely as I could, why s/he is likely to take some heat by calling a child "it". The fact that it offends many of the posters on this forum is simply a statement of fact. The next time you must choose an inference, I wouldn't mind being given the benefit of the doubt.

Wow. Well-put.

I have no such temperament that would allow me to write that!

Thank you, Silver. Chocolate, please?

You're welcome, any time.
Chocolate? Always some of that!!

 

[VeronicaLodge]

I use to be an apartment manager way back when for a couple of years and I had a tenant complain of an upstairs tenant's child making footstep noises all day. My question to him was, what exactly to want them to do? tie the child to a chair? how exactly do you stop a 2 or 3 year old from walking or running around? and they are just learning balance and how not to fall when walking, so yeah, they walk like Frankenstein! seriously, take things like this into consideration when you chose a place to live.

I for one can not share walls/floors/ceilings with anyone, I live on 5 acres now!

 

[BL]

=VeronicaLodge;1762604]I use to be an apartment manager way back when for a couple of years and I had a tenant complain of an upstairs tenant's child making footstep noises all day. My question to him was, what exactly to want them to do? tie the child to a chair? how exactly do you stop a 2 or 3 year old from walking or running around? and they are just learning balance and how not to fall when walking, so yeah, they walk like Frankenstein! seriously, take things like this into consideration when you chose a place to live.

I for one can not share walls/floors/ceilings with anyone, I live on 5 acres now!

I'm hoping to hit the lottery big one so I can have a peaceful place to live

I've lived in smaller towns , and the City ( presently the city for last 21 years ) .

Your moving , look at the new place - everything is quiet and peaceful UNTIL you move in .

I swear déjà vu is my shadow !

You think a new LL would let you in on what they know about neighbors , instead it's the " I think you'll like it here " .

Noise with multiple tenacies , especialy those with children , is a given .

 

[VeronicaLodge]

ha you dont have to hit the lottery, just live in rural tennessee