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424Smudge

Member
What do we do if my husbands ex wife just paid off a 153,000 dollar house in 2 years when she claims that she has no income? There was just a deed of reconveyance saying that the loan has been paid off and that the title is now theirs. This is not a refinance because there has not been anypaperwork filed stating that someone has now taken over the loan and that short into a loan, you would still be paying interest.
 
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Ohiogal

Queen Bee
424Smudge said:
What do we do if my husbands ex wife just paid off a 153,000 dollar house in 2 years when she claims that she has no income? There was just a deed of reconveyance saying that the loan has been paid off and that the title is now theirs. This is not a refinance because there has not been anypaperwork filed stating that someone has now taken over the loan and that short into a loan, you would still be paying interest.
In what reference are you asking? Did she inherit money? Is she remarried and her new spouse has money? You said the title is now theirs. That implies someone else is involved and hence maybe that other person paid off the loan.
 

424Smudge

Member
Ohiogal said:
In what reference are you asking? Did she inherit money? Is she remarried and her new spouse has money? You said the title is now theirs. That implies someone else is involved and hence maybe that other person paid off the loan.
Her new husband is a SSgt in the Air Force and trust me, as a former SSgt in the same branch, we don't make 153,000 dollars in the course of 2 years. It could have been an inheratence. His family is well off and someone could have died and given them that money. The Az child support guidelines state that gifts can be considered part of your income but it depends on the size and what not. If it was an inheratence and it was used to pay off a loan in her name can it be considered income. My husband pays 900 a month in CS and it would be nice to be able to prove that he is paying more than he should. The inheratence is a big deal because when I say the family is well off I MEAN WELL OFF. If someone dies the inheratence could be in the million dollar price range.
 

424Smudge

Member
tigger22472 said:
I am curious to know how you know this was done and in what manner.
It is public record. I can pull up anyones deed info up off of the internet if I wanted or go down to the recorders office and request it.
 

Gracie3787

Senior Member
424Smudge said:
Her new husband is a SSgt in the Air Force and trust me, as a former SSgt in the same branch, we don't make 153,000 dollars in the course of 2 years. It could have been an inheratence. His family is well off and someone could have died and given them that money. The Az child support guidelines state that gifts can be considered part of your income but it depends on the size and what not. If it was an inheratence and it was used to pay off a loan in her name can it be considered income. My husband pays 900 a month in CS and it would be nice to be able to prove that he is paying more than he should. The inheratence is a big deal because when I say the family is well off I MEAN WELL OFF. If someone dies the inheratence could be in the million dollar price range.
The only way that it could affect child support is if the parent of the child were to inherit. I'm not real sure, but I don't think that a step-parent's inheritence would be considered a gift to the parent of the child. But you should check with an attorney just to make sure.
 

AHA

Senior Member
424Smudge said:
The inheratence is a big deal because when I say the family is well off I MEAN WELL OFF.
That doesn't mean that daddy should not have to pay support for the children HE willingly created!
 

424Smudge

Member
AHA said:
That doesn't mean that daddy should not have to pay support for the children HE willingly created!
Like OMG really? Jeesh I thought that if she had that much money that he could just stop paying child support and him and I could run away together and have like 18 kids ourselves and everything would be ok in the world.

You totally missed the point here, he pays child support, she claims no income, if she is making money, won the lottery or some crap like that then he has a right to know then RIGHT? Would this produce a W2? What about an inheratence?
 
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AHA

Senior Member
424Smudge said:
Like OMG really? Jeesh I thought that if she had that much money that he could just stop paying child support and him and I could run away together and have like 18 kids ourselves and everything would be ok in the world.

You totally missed the point here, he pays child support, she claims no income, if she is making money, won the lottery or some crap like that then he has a right to know then RIGHT? Would this produce a W2? What about an inheratence?
I'm not the one who is missing the point about the concept of cs.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
If her husband received an inheritance and used it to pay off the house, I believe that it would be considered a gift and NOT income. As a one-off deal, it wouldn't affect the CS calculation. So you may as well forget that line of thinking.
 

424Smudge

Member
AHA said:
I'm not the one who is missing the point about the concept of cs.
Could you please kindly point out where I stated that I didn't think the CS should be paid or that I stated that I did not understand the concept of the CS? I must have missed that. I think he should pay the child support but when his ex wife comes up with that large amount of money in 2 years (not even) it would be nice to know at least how she got it. Can we subpoena tax records. It might not be an inheratence, it might be a settlement or a lottery winning. No matter what i doubt the amount was for just the price of the loan. And don't act like you wouldn't care at all where the money came from because that is bull. If your ex came up with 150k all of the sudden I am sure you would want to know how too.
 

weenor

Senior Member
424Smudge said:
Could you please kindly point out where I stated that I didn't think the CS should be paid or that I stated that I did not understand the concept of the CS? I must have missed that. I think he should pay the child support but when his ex wife comes up with that large amount of money in 2 years (not even) it would be nice to know at least how she got it. Can we subpoena tax records. It might not be an inheratence, it might be a settlement or a lottery winning. No matter what i doubt the amount was for just the price of the loan. And don't act like you wouldn't care at all where the money came from because that is bull. If your ex came up with 150k all of the sudden I am sure you would want to know how too.

What everyone is trying to tell you is that unless ex is working or receiving a steady stream of income...it doesn't matter where she got the money because it will not be used to recalculate child support...You would be better off with surveillance (to prove she's working) than trying to supeona their joint (redacted) tax return.
 

424Smudge

Member
That's crap then because if the NCP were to win the lottery tomorrow in the sum of 40 mil. The only way that that could be calculated into their income would be if they did monthly or yearly payments but if they did a lump sum the the CP wouldn't be able to touch it?
 

AHA

Senior Member
424Smudge said:
Could you please kindly point out where I stated that I didn't think the CS should be paid or that I stated that I did not understand the concept of the CS? I must have missed that. I think he should pay the child support but when his ex wife comes up with that large amount of money in 2 years (not even) it would be nice to know at least how she got it. Can we subpoena tax records. It might not be an inheratence, it might be a settlement or a lottery winning. No matter what i doubt the amount was for just the price of the loan. And don't act like you wouldn't care at all where the money came from because that is bull. If your ex came up with 150k all of the sudden I am sure you would want to know how too.
I have never failed a marriage, so I don't know what it's like to be in your shoes and be pi$$ed off about hubby having to pay for previous children. How do you know SHE came up with the money to pay off the 150,000?? It might have been her new man, who is NOT responsible for supporting your hubby's kids.
If your hubby has PROOF that she has income that she is not declaring, then he should take her to court, but until then, it's none of YOURS or hubby's business where she gets money from. Hubby created children and since he obviously didn't fight for full custody of them, he has to pay cs no matter if the ex marries a billionaire or a trailor park loser.
 

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