Rushia - in response...

[CandiceH]

LOL, have you seen "the look"? Oh boy, did you hear hubby at all when you were over last week? LOL, you think I'M scary?!!

Yes, I heard lol. But I just had to clarify that Peanut is not a brat nor out of control. I am not JUST saying this. It is the truth and I was a little upset to see her referenced as such. Now, if someone were to reference MY daughter as a brat, I would agree! But not Peanut.

 

[Rushia]

Yes, I heard lol. But I just had to clarify that Peanut is not a brat nor out of control. I am not JUST saying this. It is the truth and I was a little upset to see her referenced as such. Now, if someone were to reference MY daughter as a brat, I would agree! But not Peanut.

She's a brat? Does she even talk?

 

[BL]

Ok . OK , heard it from a mouth .

Your kid acts goofy ? Shrieks ? Whines ? to get what they want ?
You either explain to them they ASK politely for what they want , or ignore the brats , unless they are in dire need of medical attention .

Stealth told ya so , but more bluntly . And quit making excuses .

Shove your foot up their assess . Oh wait just gently but firmly kick their behind just enough to lift their asses off the ground LOL ta hell w/ time outs .

 

[Rushia]

Ok . OK , heard it from a mouth .

Your kid acts goofy ? Shrieks ? Whines ? to get what they want ?
You either explain to them they ASK politely for what they want , or ignore the brats , unless they are in dire need of medical attention .

Umm, no. I have no need of disiplinary advice. Got that from son's therapist but thank you.

Stealth told ya so , but more bluntly . And quit making excuses .

Stealth is wrong and blew something WAY out of proportion. I make no excuses for my childrens behavior. No excuses for 11yo's kicking 4yo's. End of story.

Shove your foot up their assess . Oh wait just gently but firmly kick their behind just enough to lift their asses off the ground LOL ta hell w/ time outs .

Now, Now. That's not nice. I don't really believe in time outs either. Ineffective as far as I'm concerned. However, (inserting sarcasm)in today's society it is just cruel to spank your children. You should just let them walk all over you. My children are just fine thank you. I'll let you all know when the 11yo ends up in jail. It'll take a few years, but I'll be sure to come back and let you know.

BTW, if anyone is going to get a boot in the rear. It'll be the 11yo so she'll understand what it feels like to have someone bigger than her kick her for no reason.

 

[CdwJava]

I really don't like to argue with you but EVERY young female child that I've ever known has been a shrieker.

That then begs the qyuestion: How many young, female children have you known?

Shrieking is a learned behavior - not an innate one. If she is made to quickly realize that she will NOT get her way when she shrieks, the behavior will change. In some cases it is a matter of ignoring the behavior (thus not granting the reward of attention), or, PUNISHING the behavior.

EDIT: And if the shrieking is "only" in play, that, too, can be dealt with. I've done it ... my youngest son liked to shriek when he was playing - AND when he was whining. Both stopped in short order when my wife and I stopped putting up with it. I hate the high-pitched noise ... maybe others don't, but it drives me nuts and my other children as well.


- Carl

 

[Rushia]

That then begs the qyuestion: How many young, female children have you known?

Quite a few. I have 3 sisters. I am female. I had lots of little female friends. I remember running around the playyard in K with them shrieking. Out of all the kids we've had (my ex's family, hubby's family, my family) most of the children are girls. They all shriek. All the younger boys shriek.

Shrieking is a learned behavior - not an innate one. If she is made to quickly realize that she will NOT get her way when she shrieks, the behavior will change. In some cases it is a matter of ignoring the behavior (thus not granting the reward of attention), or, PUNISHING the behavior.

I beg to differ, many infants shriek. My child has learned that it's not acceptable for tantrum purposes. Once again, therapist says it's NORMAL. It's been taken care of. My question was (at least in my other thread) what would happen if a 11yo hurt my 4yo with her karate kicks? What would be the legal ramifications for the child? I don't care if my child HAD shrieked in her face. It's inexcusable that she would hurt a 4yo. Somehow I don't think that a judge would go "Oh, she was bothering you? Well, then that makes it OK." I find it very disturbing that many of you are implying that my daughter deserved to be kicked. It is my understanding that children taking karate are taught that it isn't to be used for bullying purposes. I don't even think a "Well she hit me first..." would work here. There isn't any way that an 11yo could state that she was in fear of her life. My daughter is the size of a 2/3 yo.

EDIT: And if the shrieking is "only" in play, that, too, can be dealt with. I've done it ... my youngest son liked to shriek when he was playing - AND when he was whining. Both stopped in short order when my wife and I stopped putting up with it. I hate the high-pitched noise ... maybe others don't, but it drives me nuts and my other children as well.

Well, as I've said. Housefull of kids, running, playing, shrieking. I don't care. At least I know they aren't getting into anything. It's when it's quiet, I worry. Doesn't bother the neighbors, hubby, me, other kids. I don't think it hurts anything as long as it's in play.

 

[CdwJava]

My question was (at least in my other thread) what would happen if a 11yo hurt my 4yo with her karate kicks? What would be the legal ramifications for the child?

Yep, I read that one. In most states the ramifications would come from the parents and not from the court system. Unless the 4-year-old was injured, the chances of the justice system getting involved is slim.

In my state we would have to prove that the 11-year-old knew his actions were wrong, and that he was aware that he could be in trouble for the act.

While it is not appropriate to kick or hit a 4-year-old child, it is also NOT something that the police and the court system is going to want to deal with.

I find it very disturbing that many of you are implying that my daughter deserved to be kicked.

While I did not bother to read the entirety of your original thread, I do not think that was the implication. The implication may have been more along the lines of: 4-year-olds annoy older children - it's a fact of life. While that does not justify kicking, hitting, or punching the younger child, it DOES happen and it happens regularly - especially among young boys.

It is my understanding that children taking karate are taught that it isn't to be used for bullying purposes.

Yep. But the kid's sensei may have less impact on his activity than his parents.

I don't even think a "Well she hit me first..." would work here. There isn't any way that an 11yo could state that she was in fear of her life. My daughter is the size of a 2/3 yo.

The 11-year-old doesn't have to state a fear for his life - he's 11. Someone hits them, they hit back. Someone shrieks they yell, "Stop!" and if that doesn't work, they hit them.

It's not appropriate, but it is what happens.

If the older child's parents won't handle it, then you need to keep your child away from the other child.

- Carl

 

[BL]

CandiceH

Ya know what CandiceH , I've been refraining , but ya know you have been wanting a long long string of advice from the forum , and members .

This latest has shown you want attention . The more attention you can generate toward yourself makes you feel high , and then come back with your replies , like many of us don't know what the heck is going on is ridiculous . Hire yourself an attorney would you ?



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[Shay-Pari'e]

Ya know what CandiceH , I've been refraining , but ya know you have been wanting a long long string of advice from the forum , and members .

This latest has shown you want attention . The more attention you can generate toward yourself makes you feel high , and then come back with your replies , like many of us don't know what the heck is going on is ridiculous . Hire yourself an attorney would you ?



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This post was not about Candice. I find it awfully sad that YOU of all people would call someone out for wanting attention. YOU are the king of that on this forum. You go on a binge and the forum suffers for day's with your idiotic postings.