ssdi/ui/pension/tra-taa

[t734]

Q. How do I qualify for Trade Readjustment Allowances (TRA)?

A. To qualify for TRA you must:
Be covered by an approved TAA certification,
Be a worker laid off due to lack of work from a U.S. Department of Labor (USDOL), Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) certified employer on or after the impact date identified by USDOL, and prior to the expiration date of the certification,
Must have worked at least 26 weeks with wages of $30 or more with the certified firm or subdivision in the previous 52-week period, including the week of separation,
or

I think someone is fibbing and trying to get as much as they can take .

I believe the system has crosschecks , and the likelihood of Fraud is great.

The guy isn't 'fibbing' BL. He was on worker's comp here in Illinois for two years now. Carple-tunnel in both wrists and two operations as well as osteoarthritis of the shoulder. Then we closed and were approved for TRA-TAA. He told UI that he was on comp and they gave him UI anyway. Then TAA-TRA was permitted. He went off comp because the company all of a sudden said it was not work related**************....even though they said it was for two years. So he told SS his story and approved him for SSDI. UI knew about it and adjusted his UI accordingly. Now he wants to get his pension and was wondering if his UI or SSDI will be adjusted further.

 

[t734]

I suspect you have inhaled to much diesel smoke, if you think people are going to assist someone with that kind of attitude. If you want paid legal advice, pay a lawyer.

I suspect you're stuck in puberty. Now be a good dog and look at the top of the banner. See where it says 'Ask A Lawyer'? Stick your attitude somewhere.

 

[t734]

We can, but choose not to.

Yes kid. The internet is full of forums with posers. Be proud of it. And grow up while you can.

 

[t734]

That is what I considered. The other "issue" I had was apparently OP had a job driving terminal to terminal in a day cab. There is more than one employer out there, hiring day cab drivers to drive terminal to terminal, for similar wages.

My job was on the inside of the bakery. Just like the guy on SSDI. I'm fine. I'll be going to school starting next week under TRA-TAA. The guy on SSDI is limited as to what he can do hence the necessity for retraining. Also, SDI goes away if you get retrained and/or can function in another job. Pay attention.

 

[Proserpina]

Seriously - stop it.

You're quite clearly clueless.

You're welcome.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

I suspect you're stuck in puberty. Now be a good dog and look at the top of the banner. See where it says 'Ask A Lawyer'? Stick your attitude somewhere.

So press the button and ask one. You would not be here asking the questions if you were smart enough to know the answers. No your friend cannot collect SSDI and his pension. One is for people who worked but cannot work. The other is for people who do not want to work anymore. My teenager understands that concept.

 

[t734]

So press the button and ask one. You would not be here asking the questions if you were smart enough to know the answers. No your friend cannot collect SSDI and his pension. One is for people who worked but cannot work. The other is for people who do not want to work anymore. My teenager understands that concept.

I did ask a question.
Yes. You can collect SSDI and your pension. I found that out yesterday. The other question was will his UI be reduced even though he is under TRA which allegedly guarantees you your UI as long as you are in training. SSDI can be stopped if you get training and become employed. Now go ask your teenager my question about UI per TRA while collecting SSDI. It seems that your teenager is smarter than you according to you.

 

[t734]

Seriously - stop it.

You're quite clearly clueless.

You're welcome.

Are all of your 34,000+ posts this juvenile?

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

I did ask a question.
Yes. You can collect SSDI and your pension. I found that out yesterday. The other question was will his UI be reduced even though he is under TRA which allegedly guarantees you your UI as long as you are in training. SSDI can be stopped if you get training and become employed. Now go ask your teenager my question about UI per TRA while collecting SSDI. It seems that your teenager is smarter than you according to you.

That depends on your age and the amount of the pension. If he reaches retirement age, he is no longer entitled to SSDI. Further, based on the amount of pension he will be receiving, SSDI will be reduced. With a Hostess pension, it will likely be reduced to little or nothing.

 

[LdiJ]

That depends on your age and the amount of the pension. If he reaches retirement age, he is no longer entitled to SSDI. Further, based on the amount of pension he will be receiving, SSDI will be reduced. With a Hostess pension, it will likely be reduced to little or nothing.

SSDI is not means based. Where did you get the information that it will reduce if he/she has a pension?

Its true that the OP will no longer receive SSDI once he/she reaches retirement age, but he/she will receive regular SS retirement benefits instead...which again, do not reduce because the recipient has other retirement income.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

SSDI is not means based. Where did you get the information that it will reduce if he/she has a pension?

Its true that the OP will no longer receive SSDI once he/she reaches retirement age, but he/she will receive regular SS retirement benefits instead...which again, do not reduce because the recipient has other retirement income.

From what I read, if you receive a pension for which your wages were not taxed, the pension is not exempt from being factored against SSDI. OP can receive a union pension that was not paid for and taxed to him. It was paid for by his employer, through a multi-employer pension fund.

 

[LdiJ]

From what I read, if you receive a pension for which your wages were not taxed, the pension is not exempt from being factored against SSDI. OP can receive a union pension that was not paid for and taxed to him. It was paid for by his employer, through a multi-employer pension fund.

Can you please link to where you read that? I would like to confirm that for my own benefit.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

Can you please link to where you read that? I would like to confirm that for my own benefit.

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10045.pdf I had to dig to find the specific publication. I am perusing it now myself. After reviewing the publication, it does not appear to clarify the determination for OP's circumstances either way.

 

[LdiJ]

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10045.pdf I had to dig to find the specific publication. I am perusing it now myself. After reviewing the publication, it does not appear to clarify the determination for OP's circumstances either way.

I am familiar with that publication and it has absolutely nothing to do with OP's situation. There are organizations, some police departments, some firefighters, career military and other professions where the employees do not pay into social security but rather their pension replaces social security to one extent or another. In those instances they do not earn separate social security credits on their wages, and social security is not withheld from their wages. Therefore people in those professions who have not earned social security credits from other employment, either before or after those careers, would not be eligible for SSDI or regular SS benefits.

In other words, existing SSDI benefits would NOT reduce because they began to collect those pensions. Any SSDI benefits would be based solely on their earnings credits from before or after the other career.

Railroad employees have a mixture of Social Security and pension.

Someone receiving a pension from a wholly private company, like Hostess, would not fall under that publication. Since SSDI is not means tested, another pension would not reduce SSDI benefits...although its likely that someone receiving a private company pension would have already been switched from SSDI to regular SS benefits anyway.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

The pension is not coming from Hostess. It is likely coming from the Central States Pension Fund. The employer made all contributions and the employee did not pay taxes on the pension benefit. If you read the aforementioned publication it is clear it is not all inclusive. I am not saying you are wrong LdiJ, I am just not in agreement you are necessarily right. After reading the publication, I am going to withdraw to the fence an sit.