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substance abuse counselor puts me in unnecessary expensive program. how to fight it?

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commentator

Senior Member
Honestly, $350 for a drug rehab program, and you consider this a high price to pay for the ability to stay out of jail? What have you been smoking? And incidentally, if this woman had a dollar for every person that sat in front of her, having been charged with a drug offense and told her they did not have a drug problem, she'd probably be able to retire. So she was supposed to say, "Well, okay, I didn't understand. In that case, you can just go home" ? ?
 


csi7

Senior Member
$350.00 for a class.
Take the class.
For Florida, this is a really low price.
You may feel it is not needed, however, it's listed on your sheet of "things to do" in this case.
 

juntjoo

Member
it's just stupid and truly a waste of money, but not for those profiting from it. I even requested to be referred to a different program for something more appropriate for me. I had to beg and admit I had have several other problems that that could use some attention much more than her perceived drug problem. But that was a message I left on the counselor's voice mail and she hasn't returned it. Incidentally she hung up me earlier because I wasn't satisfied with her verdict that since I admitted to smoking marijuana and using anti anxiety pills of someone else's prescription, automatically I was a person with a substance abuse issue. 'She just kept throwing me all of these pre furnished responses at me that sounded like she'd said a million times to others as if I was a an angry drug addict in denial. It was sickening. She wasn't listening at. Her mind, or what was left of it was made up the moment she picked up the phone. And shut up to those of you who take that as an automatic absolute case of substance abuse. Grow a mind and quit taking all the bs they feed you. I've used said substances on a continual though seldom basis throughout my life to assist with sleep problems, like, but much less than, how people drink coffee every morning for energy, much less than I could get a doctor to prescribe a plethora of medications if I chose that expensive route, but I hadn't the frequency of use for that to make sense. I've never been addicted to drugs nor have an addictive personality. But, and although I lack coping skills in life. Must I admit that my one and only shameful addiction is to porn? maybe I should have mentioned that and got a more appropriate program to be forced to put my money towards. If this makes me a substance abuser than people who drink coffee every day and wolf down junk food or watch television hours a day every day which is very common should also be treated similarly, which would still be ridiculous. List goes on, but point being I was sent for a substance abuse evaluation, and let me tell you, I abuse myself, in many ways, like we all do, but any kind of drug "abuse" or "addiction" is the least of my worries and for some stranger with her certificate or license or whatever up in a plaque on her wall which she was apparently very proud of with all of these recent hallmark congratulations cards displayed, to ask me ten questions then take the authority and gall to tell me I now have treated for problems I don't have and I have to pay my time and money for... it's bs and anyone who doesn't see this I'm guessing must have lost their ability to think as an individual and human being and has been taking over by this impersonal insensitive robotic mindless system we're all slaves to... anyway, it's about time I find some way to abuse myself....
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
I admitted to smoking marijuana and using anti anxiety pills of someone else's prescription, automatically I was a person with a substance abuse issue.
Gee, can't imagine why she would have jumped to THAT conclusion ... :rolleyes:

Your using SOMEONE else's prescription meds, you smoke marijuana (an illegal substance) to address some sort of alleged medical condition or disorder, and you wonder why she feels you might have a problem with drugs? Seriously?

And shut up to those of you who take that as an automatic absolute case of substance abuse. Grow a mind and quit taking all the bs they feed you.
I'm very active in the recovery community, how about you? We hear this sort of statement (or variations of it) with some frequency.

Step back and take a truly objective look at your actions and then try to concoct a rational explanation for your unlawful activity.

But, regardless of what you feel about it, you can either go with the program or not. If you do not, there may very well be consequences. But, you do have the right to go to jail rather than take counseling if it is required. Your call.
 

ERAUPIKE

Senior Member
it's just stupid and truly a waste of money, but not for those profiting from it. I even requested to be referred to a different program for something more appropriate for me.
What qualifies you to make that determination?

I had to beg and admit I had have several other problems that that could use some attention much more than her perceived drug problem.
Again, what qualifies you to make that determination?

But that was a message I left on the counselor's voice mail and she hasn't returned it.
A junkies pleas are seldom answered.

Incidentally she hung up me earlier because I wasn't satisfied with her verdict that since I admitted to smoking marijuana and using anti anxiety pills of someone else's prescription, automatically I was a person with a substance abuse issue.
You admitted to abusing narcotics and are now a convicted felon as a result. You don't think that constitutes a problem?

'She just kept throwing me all of these pre furnished responses at me that sounded like she'd said a million times to others as if I was a an angry drug addict in denial.
Probably because she has heard your junkie excuses a million times before.

It was sickening. She wasn't listening at. Her mind, or what was left of it was made up the moment she picked up the phone. And shut up to those of you who take that as an automatic absolute case of substance abuse.
She isn't smart because she doesn't agree with your biased and unqualified evaluation of your substance abuse problem. I've noticed this is a common theme in your posts. If you don't agree with me, you aren't smart.

Grow a mind and quit taking all the bs they feed you. I've used said substances on a continual though seldom basis throughout my life to assist with sleep problems,
Here is a prime example

like, but much less than, how people drink coffee every morning for energy, much less than I could get a doctor to prescribe a plethora of medications if I chose that expensive route, but I hadn't the frequency of use for that to make sense.
If you had gotten a doctor to prescribe you medication then you would not be in this predicament now. I might also add that coffee is not a controlled substance.

I've never been addicted to drugs nor have an addictive personality. But, and although I lack coping skills in life.
Using a substance continually in order to deal with your everyday life is easily defined as a ___________. I'll give you a hint, substance abuse problem.

Must I admit that my one and only shameful addiction is to porn? maybe I should have mentioned that and got a more appropriate program to be forced to put my money towards.
How are you addicted to anything if you don't have an addictive personality?

If this makes me a substance abuser than people who drink coffee every day and wolf down junk food or watch television hours a day every day which is very common should also be treated similarly, which would still be ridiculous.
If those things were against the law then their treatment would likely be the same. Even if they did those things very little, like you insist your substance intake is.

List goes on, but point being I was sent for a substance abuse evaluation, and let me tell you, I abuse myself, in many ways, like we all do, but any kind of drug "abuse" or "addiction" is the least of my worries and for some stranger with her certificate or license or whatever up in a plaque on her wall which she was apparently very proud of with all of these recent hallmark congratulations cards displayed,
Those certificates and license's are likely accompanied by degrees that make her n expert in her field. What entitles you to make any educated assertion about your substance abuse?

to ask me ten questions then take the authority and gall to tell me I now have treated for problems I don't have and I have to pay my time and money for... it's bs and anyone who doesn't see this I'm guessing must have lost their ability to think as an individual and human being and has been taking over by this impersonal insensitive robotic mindless system we're all slaves to... anyway, it's about time I find some way to abuse myself....
One way you could abuse yourself is to return to this forum with some more non-sensical arguments about your complete lack of drug addiction.
 

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