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Mit1962

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Okay enough is enough

You told me I had highjacked a thread so I deleted my postings from that thread so as to correct my wrong doing, now you have decided to use that as a forum to jump me again,
A do appreciate your statements concerning my son, as far as discussing items with my son, if you read his post he stated he OVERHEARD!!!, as soon as I saw my son standing in the doorway and became aware that he had just heard what I said, I spoke to him and told him it was just a thought because I was tired of dealing with the lies, manipulations etc.... this is a Legal Advise Forum , I have asked and relied on some of the information that I have gathered here, this was a place a person could come to inorder to ask a legal question get feed back and then make their discissions, a few of you have turned it into a mud slinging bash house.
I apologize for "highjacking a thread" I was unaware that it was a no no, and I misunderstood a reply, excuse me for being human, but when you start trashing me and have no good reason to do so except I posted in the wrong place.
Again I am sorry I have offended, distressed, upset, annoyed any of you and if I do post again I will try to do it in the appropriate spot,
 


rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Is this the other thread in question with page 2, https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=220202
how are we supposed to connect them? Yes it is playing games I will post the others in reverse order in case they get deleted after the first posts in the quote.

Robert1988 said:
What is the name of your state?Illinois
Need to see if anyone here knows what would happen to a person if they are just fed up with fight for what is right and simply ignores a custody order, further explanation of this is if one parent who currently has custody of a 16 year old and lives in another state, and the non-custodial parent has filed for custody in his/her home state (where divorce took place) and things are not looking goods as far as court ruling in faver of the petitioner what would happen to the 16 year and the custodial parent if they ignored the change in custody? also this youth is almost 17 and wants to remain with current parent in the state in which they live. but does not want to anger the non-custodial parent.

I know this may sound confusing but hopefully someone can help us
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CASA
Yesterday,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert1988
What is the name of your state?Illinois<edit #1>
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If you don't go to the hearing- the NCP will win by default probably. If the ruling for custody is not what you want and you ignore it, you can (& will) be held in contempt of the court order. The parent who has custody by court order can come remove the child from your home.

If the child is 16 they are old enough that the judge would consider their wishes for custody- The court will still have the final say, but at age 16 they have input.

Considering you are already custodial parent, the NCP lives out of state (which would mean moving the child and changing their school etc.) and the 16 yr. old wants to remain with you~ WHY would you think you'd lose custody? Is there more to the story you are not telling us?
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stealth2

And PLEASE, when you answer casa's questions, try to write more coherently. Your initial post is tough to translate.

But be aware that if there HAS been a change in custody and the parent who is losing custody ignores that order - there could be some significant consequences. Judges really hate people ignoring their orders.
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Robert1988

Is Alot more to the story
This custody battle has been going on for over a year, 16 year old in question got himself in to trouble last summer, but turned himself in, and was placed on 1 years probation, 6 months of this probation has been served, and the young man has been a model citizen, (except for when he is with the non-custodial parent), non-custodial parent was able to have a GAL assigned to the youth, unfortunatly this particular GAL is friends and belongs to several organizations as the non-custodial parent and attorney and has decided that this young man 1. should have no say in where he lives, based on the fact he got in trouble last summer, therefore making him unable to make correct choices as to what is best for himself, 2. refused to contact probation officer, councilors, or anyone in the current state in which this youth lives and discuss the best interest for this young man. 3. Has written a report not based on acutual documented fact but on "his Opinion" which he has told the custodial parent directly "the Judge only wants my Opinion it doesn;t matter what this kid wants". >> GAL has included in his report that this young man's family is "disjointed and "dysfuctional" and does not foster a "family Unit", This person has talked to the youth twice once by phone, once in person for 5 mins, he has spoken to one of his siblings for 10 mins, he has spoken to the custodial parent once by phone and once in person, he has never attempted to visit this childs home,
basically this is part of a group decission by attorney, non-custodial parent, GAL and possibley the judge and the non-custodial parent doesn't stand a chance against these persons, even though we have documented proof that the non-custodial parent is unable to provide proper subervision for a week let alone until this child is 18. They have choosen to ignore letters written on behalf of this youth and the family.
so to close the custodial parent and the minor in questions are going up against a brick wall with probably NO CHANCE of winning. and please don't say hire an attorney because the last attorney helped and is currently helping these people to destroy this family.
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casa

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Originally Posted by Robert1988 <edited quote>


That was the last time, this time is different and you need a DIFFERENT attorney to combat them.

You are resigning yourself to NO chance of winning. You leave out facts re; the GALs recommendation...I think what the judge will look at is WHY was the youth in trouble in the first place? (Were they not be supervised? Were they allowed by the custodial parent to consistently be in situations where they could get into trouble?) WHAT happened when the youth was charged? (Did the CP cooperate and follow through with the discipline plan etc.) HOW is the child doing since this incident? (Have the adhered to the probation requirements, are they in counseling, are they succeeding in school and behavior issues?)

The documents from the probation officer and from the counselor can be submitted to the court to be reviewed by the judge. Judges do rely on GALs reports, but if you have evidence to the contrary- you need to file it. (Not just the probation and counseling, but any PROOF you have of waywardly acts while in the care of the NCP) The GAL is incorrect in stating the judge ONLY cares about what the GAL says.

You need to make sure all your documentation is on file in this case prior to any hearings. Include affidavits from teachers, neighbors, family re; how you parent your son and your son's behavior since this incident.

If you do lose custody- It may end up being part of the consequence for your son over his bad behavior, and a valuable learning lesson about his actions being a reflection of his family.
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stealth2 You posted this under a different handle, didn't you?

(edit) Are you Mit1962 or related? If you are - don't play these effin' games.
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Robert1988 This is the one who has caused all the trouble for my family, and you can be a very rude person
this is like the third time I have seen you write "If you are - don't play these effin' games"
maybe I was just trying to find out information since I started this for my mom.
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Robert1988 my mom has provided all this to the courts and they say it just doesn't matter, I screwed up yes, but I am trying to pay for my crime, I am on probation, I have served my com. service, plus volunteered to keep helping the community service officer, I have attended and am attending counseling one I ask to be included in on my own, I am trying to straighten myself out, I screwed up by not thinking but I am being put on trial again and again by my dad (I love this man) just don't want to live with him,

why do you allow the person to say things like "If you are - don't play these effin' games"??

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casa
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Originally Posted by Robert1988 <edit>

why do you allow the person to say things like "If you are - don't play these effin' games"??

"allow?" I am not in control of another adults opinions.

Stealth has a valid point: Why are you posting the same story under different names? It only confuses everyone, and makes them less willing to continue to help you.
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#10 Stealth2
Really? Wanna show me where? 'Cause I just did a search to check, and this is the only post I've said it in. In fact, I've only used "'effin" in 4 posts - and the other three are all in general conversation and not directed at anyone.

So.... Want to try again? And trust me - I haven't started rude yet.
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Robert1988 My mom is going to mad as all, when she sees I have been here instead of my school work, I am private schooled and need to get to the books thank you to everyone and again I am sorry for looking like I was trying to pull something.
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Robert1988 to start my mom is attorney poor and every time she thinks she has a good one my dads attorney manages to wear them down ,
I have told my dad what I want but he just says I don't know whats good for me, ( mom says same thing that I don't or haven't let him know what I want) but my dad just doesn't care what I want, he is alone (his second wife divorsed him after 5 months) and he HATES my mom cause she left him, I have tried to tell EVERYONE what I want but know one except my mom will listen, she only started this fight cause I told her I didn't want to move back to my dads, now I am tired of my mom getting hurt by my dad, his lawyer,and now this guardian guy, I have only talked to this guy two times since August of last year, and he put in his report that I only wanted to stay with my mom cause she doen't supervise me and I want to have sex with my girlfriend (2yrs now), I went to my dads in December and hung around with some people from my past and I smoked pot, when I got home I told my mom what I did and man did she get MAD!!!,, so did my probation officer I told him too,
I just got bored when I was there talked my dad into letting me spend few hours with these guys he left me there ALL day finally came picked me up at 8 I know it was stupid but thats the way it is at my dads he doesn't care where I am at as long as I live with him and he can tell everyone he WON I don't want my mom to go to jail, she can't afford another lawyer, she cries every night and I want to help but against these people what can a 16 year old do??
Yesterday 06:50 AM
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rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Mit1962 said:
You told me I had highjacked a thread so I deleted my postings from that thread so as to correct my wrong doing, now you have decided to use that as a forum to jump me again,
A do appreciate your statements concerning my son, as far as discussing items with my son, if you read his post he stated he OVERHEARD!!!, as soon as I saw my son standing in the doorway and became aware that he had just heard what I said, I spoke to him and told him it was just a thought because I was tired of dealing with the lies, manipulations etc.... this is a Legal Advise Forum , I have asked and relied on some of the information that I have gathered here, this was a place a person could come to inorder to ask a legal question get feed back and then make their discissions, a few of you have turned it into a mud slinging bash house.
I apologize for "highjacking a thread" I was unaware that it was a no no, and I misunderstood a reply, excuse me for being human, but when you start trashing me and have no good reason to do so except I posted in the wrong place.
Again I am sorry I have offended, distressed, upset, annoyed any of you and if I do post again I will try to do it in the appropriate spot,
That is right, quit playing games with us, with your child, with the court.
 

casa

Senior Member
stealth2 said:
I actually have a fair bit of respect for the kid. Too bad he's stuck with the parents he's got.
That's the conclusion I came to.

Regardless of the good intentions (or otherwise) of either parent~ What Robert has done is not totally out of the ordinary...and he is paying for that- in more ways than one :( He doesn't want to live with his Dad, but feels uncomfortable asserting that since the Dad won't listen- he's too busy taking this opportunity to 'prove' the Mom is 'bad' and he is 'good' :rolleyes: It would be nice if Dad could have cooperated as part of the process of amends and direction and demonstrated to his son he can mistakes and take responsibility for them and be loved regardless. On the other hand, Mom feels attacked and is not feeling she is adequately represented- and her emotions have taken over to the point she has discussed with (or discussed within earshot of) son who now has the added burden of worrying about his mother being in legal trouble.

So the kid, instead of focusing on amending his own mistakes and growing through the experience, is now stuck in the middle. Either way his Dad has focused on how messed up he is and how messed up his mother is. His mother has focused on how vindictive and hypocritical his father is. So the kid can't feel supported or respected by the father and is put into a care-taking and defensive role towards the mother.

Geeez....At least my own drama with the nuttyX is one-sided :cool: Refusing to participate in insanity is a really really effective tool in the longrun ;)
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Mit1962 said:
You told me I had highjacked a thread so I deleted my postings from that thread so as to correct my wrong doing, now you have decided to use that as a forum to jump me again,
A do appreciate your statements concerning my son, as far as discussing items with my son, if you read his post he stated he OVERHEARD!!!, as soon as I saw my son standing in the doorway and became aware that he had just heard what I said, I spoke to him and told him it was just a thought because I was tired of dealing with the lies, manipulations etc.... this is a Legal Advise Forum , I have asked and relied on some of the information that I have gathered here, this was a place a person could come to inorder to ask a legal question get feed back and then make their discissions, a few of you have turned it into a mud slinging bash house.
I apologize for "highjacking a thread" I was unaware that it was a no no, and I misunderstood a reply, excuse me for being human, but when you start trashing me and have no good reason to do so except I posted in the wrong place.
Again I am sorry I have offended, distressed, upset, annoyed any of you and if I do post again I will try to do it in the appropriate spot,
Ya know..... I don't mind people who make a mistake and correct it. I DO, however, get pretty damned pissy when they try claiming that someone else is playing games with their login after they do so:

Mit1962 said:
BULL I don't know who is playing games with my sign in but it is GETTING RIDICULUS , I am sitting here reading about this person in TX and next thing I know someone has put my orig question from december on this person's request
You know damned well that you deleted the post you made in v_wyatt's thread, and then made the above post. And then you have the f*ckin' nerve to come and whine about other people? Try again, lady. :mad:
 
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