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usmcfamily

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Have any of us mentioned lately what a thankless job it is for us to spend part of our time here trying to assist others by sharing our knowledge of the law in order to provide them an opportunity to defend/assist themselves? That having been said -- if you had actaully read my post instead of simply reacting to it you would have noticed the information I provided was that your fiancee is paying MORE than he HAS to ---- which was your question in the first place --- so how that was an attack on either of you I don't know. As to being spiteful you couldn't be further from the truth as I have been on both sides of these very situations and know what it feels like -- in the light of that I was simply trying to get you to see that you need to look at this as it is a situation which you will be dealing with for the rest of your life if you do marry this man....it likely won't get better, just wanted you to see that before you made any final decisions. If you do marry him (and I hope you will as you obviously care about him very much) you will be dealing with this for a very long time - just be prepared for that.
As you get more frustrated and more of the story comes out there are some other avenues your fiancee could be taking (wish you had mentioned the fact that he has them the majority of the time without having to be p***ed off first cuz that does change things a bit).....as you stated that he has them more then I would suggest that he consider petitioning the courts for a change in custody. He needs to start documenting all the time that he is caring for the children and have that ready to take to court to prove that he is acting as the primary parent -- also take proof (please tell me he didn't give her cash -- and if he has tell him NEVER NEVER NEVER again -- checks give him proof of payment) of payment of ALL the monies he has paid (especially that above/beyond his ordered support) to her for their support so that he can show his parental responsibility.
As you mentioned financial problems I suggest he find a father's rights advocacy group (the internet is full of them) in your area and contact them for legal assistance -- they have excellent attorneys who work in exactly this type of situation and will help at reduced rates/payment plans and most of all are VERY familiar with specific law regarding a father's rights.
So, do you see how much more help we can be when we have the whole story?
One last note, though, as to my being spiteful -- from your last post I would say that is a bit of "pot and kettle" logic coming from you as I am not the one railing about a "15 year old boyfriend" etc.....I point that out not to pick a fight but simply to be able to offer you one last piece of advice -- if this does go to court please remember you will be considered as a reflection on your man try to curb the emotional reactions while there so it doesn't end up hurting his case. I am not saying you are wrong - and Lord knows that these situations are full of stress and strong emotion, just try to control it when it matters...it will do wonders for your fiancee's case. And as you are a soon to be step-mom please remember kids hear/understand a lot more than we give them credit for and don't need to hear their mother spoken ill of (no matter how true it is)....they will figure out the truth for themselves as time goes by.
Good luck and God Bless
 


LegalBeagle

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sassykitten74 said:
um yeah the reason i wanted to know is because even though she has custody the kids are here more then they are there and its ridiculous for my fiance to be paying her child support. He pays for the pre school because otherwise the kid would not have the oppurtunity to go because she spends sll her money on phone bills making calls to her 15 yr old boyfriend in FL. And no he can't "afford" it-we're living off of credit cards-we dont even have money to buy food because he is also paying all of their marital bills. He and I are engaged and this is as much my business as it is. Somebody sounds a little spiteful here-hmmmmmm yeah thanks for the help-ha
You were the one that entered into this relationship. You accepted his problems and now you are bitching about them. I suggest, for the good of the children, you leave and find yourself a single guy with no kids or 'ex'. I think you will be a lot happier.
 

LegalBeagle

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usmcfamily said:
I would suggest that he consider petitioning the courts for a change in custody.
I disagree.. This women is a step mother from hell in the making and will probably end up alienating the children from their mother.
 
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sassykitten74

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To usmcfamily-thank you for your help and advice-yes I am under alot of stress and this woman I have to deal with does not make things easier. I try to avoid her as much as possible and I lie to her children and tell them I like their mommy and when they cry because they dont want to go home to her because they want to stay with me then I convince them their mommy loves them and would love for them to go home. Mommy on the other hand has called me ****ing cunt right in front of them and beat the hell out of thier father right in front of them. So mr. smarty leagle beagle get the whole story before you decide to be a dumb ******* and accuse me of being the step mom from hell when all I'm trying to do is get some information.
 
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MomOfHalfDozen

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I've been lurking on this board since I posted a question a week ago because I hope to work in Family Law (or some aspect of it) and I just enjoyed the info. Hope that's not an internet no-no (I'm new to this).
I had read previously a statement about this board having a tendency to be "anti-step parent" (don't recall who said it, and I'm aware of the fact that I'm using the quote in a different context than it was originally stated, so please don't think I'm *bashing* the original poster OR this board) and how one of the lawyers (IAAL, I believe) no longer responds to step parents.

I couldn't resist putting in a reply on this thread:

NOW I understand why some are hesitant to respond to step parents. This person gives ALL step mothers a bad name. What a shame that there are so very many good step moms that get tagged with a negative stereotype due to women (girls?) like this one. These kids would be better off if she was NEVER allowed near them.


 
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sassykitten74

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wow anti-step parent is right on the money. Those kids spend more time with us then they do with their mommy. And the only time they get discipline is when they're here honey. You can take your part time mommy **** and shove it. I do way more for them then their own mother does. Their mother is always too busy online talking to her 15 yr old boyfriend. I have no clue how it is that you all could possibly think im the bad guy here but yall are nuts.
 
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sassykitten74

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Look I'm not greedy at all. My fiance gets what his children need and part of why I love him is because hes such a good father. If circumstances were different-as in the children were not here more than they are at their moms then I would have no problem with the amount of money he has to spend on them. The fact is that it costs money to feed them while they are here etc... As far as custody goes as soon as we are married then we do hope do get custody but we have been legally advised that we would have no chance with our current living situation. The mother is a piece of **** but she doesn't beat them or anything so at least we know they are safe until we can obtain custody and they are here most of the time so we know they are well taken care of. And I did not come here to complain I came seeking advice-anything that has been seen as "complaining" was simply stated to explain my situation better.
 
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ash13

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MomOfHalfDozen:
Why would you say that she should never be allowed near her future stepchildren? What are you basing that on?

LadyBlu:
You called her greedy and self-rightous based on your personal life. You obviously harbor so much resentment towards your ex (and whoever he is in a relationship with) that you label all stepmothers negatively. Your attack on Sassykitten is disgusting, especially considering the nature of this site.

That's not very professional. Do you consider your posts to be advice?
 
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sassykitten74

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thank you ash13-finally somebody at this site that makes some sense. The unprofessionalism at this site has amazed me. I find it so funny that I told these people this woman has beat the crap out of my fiance IN FRONT of thier children-yet I'm the bad guy for some reason? Yeah social services didn't think that and any normal human being wouldn't either.
 
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LadyBlu

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ash13 said:
MomOfHalfDozen:
Why would you say that she should never be allowed near her future stepchildren? What are you basing that on?

LadyBlu:
You called her greedy and self-rightous based on your personal life. You obviously harbor so much resentment towards your ex (and whoever he is in a relationship with) that you label all stepmothers negatively. Your attack on Sassykitten is disgusting, especially considering the nature of this site.

That's not very professional. Do you consider your posts to be advice?
Go take a look at some of her(i use that term loosely) posts on other peoples threads, then tell me how nice a person she is.,.. she shows her true colors..

I am not an attorney, nor have I claimed to be.... but then again if you were just looking for legal advice you would go to an attorney, not a FREE ADVICE board..*S* you get what you get here...

I gave this woman valid legal advice in the beginning of this post.. she kept going on and on.. because she is bitter.

She needs to get out of this relationship now... that is my next advice.. because honey, it doesnt get any easier.. and this attitude you have against the fiancee's ex, it flows out of you.. kids can sense it..
 
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MomOfHalfDozen

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I stated that this "future step-mom" shouldn't be around the kids for the exact reason as Lady Blu stated above----the attitude flows out of her and the children can sense that.
Divorce is difficult enough on ALL parties involved, but the children especially. The LAST thing those children need is a bitter, resentful, jealous person as their step mother. If her attitude is this bad in the home (and I'm sure we've only experienced a touch of it), then the children are being exposed to it. Someone who throws out that much hate to complete strangers (strangers who were initially trying to help her, who she then turned around and attacked) cannot possibly have the class, restraint, and psychological intelligence to keep her mouth shut in front of the kids.


I realize that this comes off as an attack, but I have a lot of respect and admiration for the people (regulars) that give advice on this board. I've seen quite a few instances where they've not only given their advice (on their own time I'm sure), but also gone and done research on particular situations to help a person out. For Sassykitten to come in here, ask a question, and then insult the very people who have tried to help her, well I just find that disgraceful.

[Edited by MomOfHalfDozen on 11-30-2000 at 11:04 AM]
 
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Grandma B

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Go take a look at some of her(i use that term loosely) posts on other peoples threads, then tell me how nice a person she is.,.. she shows her true colors..

I am not an attorney, nor have I claimed to be.... but then again if you were just looking for legal advice you would go to an attorney, not a FREE ADVICE board..*S* you get what you get here...

I gave this woman valid legal advice in the beginning of this post.. she kept going on and on.. because she is bitter.

She needs to get out of this relationship now... that is my next advice.. because honey, it doesnt get any easier.. and this attitude you have against the fiancee's ex, it flows out of you.. kids can sense it.. [/B]

LadyBlu, You are SOOOOOOO good -- and SOOOOOOOO bad!! LOL

[Edited by Grandma B on 11-30-2000 at 11:18 AM]
 
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goodstepmommy

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I don't see anything wrong with sassykitten asking advice on this subject. She was clearly jumped on for seeking advice from a bunch of whiny, inconciderate idiots who were given free range to berate stepmothers. What's the matter with all of you? Did you all grow up with a wicked stepmother who abused you or something, so that gives you the right to pick on someone who asked a simple question? I cannot tell you the number of times I have had to comfort my own stepdaughter because her loser mother won't have anything to do with her at all. My sd is hurt by her, and I am the person who is there for her. Don't judge us all just because you all are bored or get off on insulting innocent people. This site is a disgrace, I have never seen anything as bad as this one. You all should be shut down, you are all on your pedistal thinking you have the right to give such advice. Take your advice and shove it up your @#$!!!!!
 

usmcfamily

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If you would take a moment and jump off YOUR soapbox perhaps you could re-read the entire thread and notice that noone was in any way rude to the poster until she attacked the people responding to her inquiry. Furthermore, not all of us have "jumped on" this woman.......actually, we have all at one point or another offered her some very sound advice. Out of curiousity -- if this site is so horrible what are you doing here anyway? Seems to me you would better serve the poor downtrodden stepmothers of the world by starting your own site where you can all sit back and B**** about us! If we have offended you I suggest you leave.......or has that not occurred to you?

Geez....and people wonder why we hesitate to get involved with questions from step-parents........
 
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