Going to jail?

[fairisfair]

Oh, really?
Then what, precisely, do you call the valid legal info *I* googled and provided for Teen Horndog in the very first response?

Hmmmm?

OMG you CRACKA me UP!!!!

 

[Silverplum]

OMG you CRACKA me UP!!!!

I felt pretty sporky about it!

 

[Silverplum]

Needed to save this whole parody of a post for future reference.

Wow, you guys are downright cruel. There's a difference between "telling it like it is" and just being verbally malicious for no reason other than you can. PJ is the only one of you who actually gave the kid some real advice without being belligerent about it.

TJ, I have very little understanding of the legal system regarding these matters and I don't know how much it counts for but I'll give you my advice:

If what you say is true; if the act was consensual and the two of you do have feelings for each other then, for the moment, you should let it be. (Just like the Beatles song! I love the Beatles..."When I find myself in times of trouble..." Ahh! I digress) You can't blame her father for acting the way he is. There is nothing more precious than ones child and for whatever reason he sees you as a threat to her. He's a pissed off tiger protecting his cub. If you have feelings for the girl, understand that her father has loved her for 15 years and is not willing to take any chances with her safety. Would you be willing to take chances? Agree to stop seeing her, don't fight it. Prove to the father that your intentions are sincere (Many a noble knight has had to endure similar trials). Let him realize that you understand she may not be emotionally prepared for a sexual relationship at her age (And pray to GOD he does not actually press charges). Not seeing her may be difficult (I don't care what anyone says, if the two of you lost your virginity together then you will always have some sort of emotional connection to each other. And seriously...you can live without sex for a while.) but it is the only positive solution. One of 3 things will happen.

1. The most likely scenario (Sorry, call me jaded): You will find someone else closer to your own age, probably at college. You'll fall in love several more times. Lots a nice gals out there, I promise ya. Problem with that is there are a lot of nice guys too and she may find someone first. Se la vi.

2. The least likely scenario (once again, sorry): Her father will see by your austere, self imposed chastity that your intentions are pure. He'll then give the (non-sexual) relationship his blessings and all will be well. (Just to re-iterate...VERY unlikely)

3. The most romantically apt scenario: Her father will never believe you are anything but a hooligan and will make sure you never come in contact with her...for 3 years, then if you two still have feelings for each other theres little he can do...except cut of her credit card, her insurance, her college fund, and well...ok, he can still do a lot...but no one will go to jail!

Oh yea, one last scenario....

4. You throw caution to the wind and "Your heart will be broken when you get into custody for Statutory Rape"...yup...Gotta agree with the man there.

The way I see it you have three options that end well and one that doesn't. And if you decide that she's worth waiting for then don't feel down! Just listen to Don Quixote, the most noble Knight errant there ever was, when he says "That glorious quest...to love pure and chaste from afar"

And just so you know: The problem isn't the age difference, it's HER age. The truth is that most 15 year old girls are just not emotionally mature enough for a sexual relationship. Biology and hormones have a way of beating emotional stability in the great race of life. What can I say, the big guy upstairs messed up on the wiring a little. Bottom line is that being sexually active too early can lead to physiological problems that can persist for ones entire life...her whole life. Now maybe you think that she's uncharacteristically mature for her age. Maybe she is. The thing you need to ask yourself is this: If you really care about her then how willing are you to take that risk? An unplanned pregnancy at her age could prove fatal. Even if there is a 95% chance that the two of you could be sexually active and suffer no ill consequences, even then...if you love her, are you willing to take that 5% chance?

I don't know, maybe I'm just a big softy. I'm a 26 year old Theatre/Writing major with so many love poetry compilations on my shelf that it's just embarrassing. But you have to follow the rules man. You're not gonna win anyone onto your side by hurling insults at the person who raised someone you claim to love. If you really, REALLY believe that you care about this girl then you'll play by the rules. I swear to god it's the only way to go...and pray to your favorite god that her dad is not gonna press charges, because Uncle Sam never read "Romeo and Juliet" in high school.

As for everyone else, (Besides PJ who was civil and gave good advice) chill out! He's 17!! If you want to yell self-righteous platitudes at someone yell at me! I'm on probation right now for a DUI. Yea, that's right. I messed up and actually endangered lives! This guy didn't hurt anybody! All this kid did was let his hormones get in the way of his judgment. You assume this guy is a miscreant because he called her father a douche? For pete's sake! Drop the hypocrisies! Stop acting like you were never young and hated your girlfriend's parents for doing something you later realized was right. If we rounded up every male in this country who at some point hated his girlfriend's parents or his in-laws then we would have...well, every male in the country. If you want to point out that he is in serious legal trouble then do so, but don't just say " You should keep seeing her, until you're incarcerated for rape". That's not "telling it like it is". All you're doing is wording your judgment in the most sanctimonious and deliberately hurtful way you possible can. You enjoy trolling these board looking for people you can belittle? Come on, hit me. I got in a car drunk and drove around! I used to get angry when people judged me for that but those people are far, FAR more justified than you who are maliciously casting your venom coated daggers at this guy. The only one of you that actually gave him advice was PJ. If you're gonna morally condemn people for having affection for a 15 year old then you should throw Edgar Allen Poe, Byron, Dante Alighieri, Socrates and Plato into the mix as well. Along with almost the entire population of the world before 1700.

I apologize for the tirade. I was just appalled by the lack of compassion and utter belligerence some of you show to people coming here for advice...and you don't even bother giving any advice.

*I now expose my breast for the coming onslaught of criticism*

 

[Happy Trails]

What is the name of your state? Arizona

I am a senior in high school and i met my girlfriend who is a sophmore last semester. We started dating and hit it off and had sex to put it shortly. Her dad found out and is threatening to put me in jail. She was born august 19th 1992 and i was born june 18th 1990. I read online that if i was less than two years older than her and its consenting that it would be legal. I need clarification please.

This is the statute that states if you were no more than 24 months older....

Not that it helps you though, since you are 26 months older.

13-1407. Defenses
It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to sections 13-1404 and 13-1405 involving a minor if the act was done in furtherance of lawful medical practice.

B. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to sections 13-1404 and 13-1405 in which the victim's lack of consent is based on incapacity to consent because the victim was fifteen, sixteen or seventeen years of age if at the time the defendant engaged in the conduct constituting the offense the defendant did not know and could not reasonably have known the age of the victim.

C. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1402, 13-1404, 13-1405 or 13-1406 if the act was done by a duly licensed physician or registered nurse or a person acting under the physician's or nurse's direction, or any other person who renders emergency care at the scene of an emergency occurrence, the act consisted of administering a recognized and lawful form of treatment that was reasonably adapted to promoting the physical or mental health of the patient and the treatment was administered in an emergency when the duly licensed physician or registered nurse or a person acting under the physician's or nurse's direction, or any other person rendering emergency care at the scene of an emergency occurrence, reasonably believed that no one competent to consent could be consulted and that a reasonable person, wishing to safeguard the welfare of the patient, would consent.

D. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1404 or 13-1405 that the person was the spouse of the other person at the time of commission of the act. It is not a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1406 that the defendant was the spouse of the victim at the time of commission of the act.

E. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1404 or 13-1410 that the defendant was not motivated by a sexual interest. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1404 involving a victim under fifteen years of age that the defendant was not motivated by a sexual interest.

F. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1405 if the victim is fifteen, sixteen or seventeen years of age, the defendant is under nineteen years of age or attending high school and is no more than twenty-four months older than the victim and the conduct is consensual.

 

[fairisfair]

Wow, you guys are downright cruel. There's a difference between "telling it like it is" and just being verbally malicious for no reason other than you can. PJ is the only one of you who actually gave the kid some real advice without being belligerent about it.

TJ, I have very little understanding of the legal system regarding these matters and I don't know how much it counts for but I'll give you my advice:

If what you say is true; if the act was consensual and the two of you do have feelings for each other then, for the moment, you should let it be. (Just like the Beatles song! I love the Beatles..."When I find myself in times of trouble..." Ahh! I digress) You can't blame her father for acting the way he is. There is nothing more precious than ones child and for whatever reason he sees you as a threat to her. He's a pissed off tiger protecting his cub. If you have feelings for the girl, understand that her father has loved her for 15 years and is not willing to take any chances with her safety. Would you be willing to take chances? Agree to stop seeing her, don't fight it. Prove to the father that your intentions are sincere (Many a noble knight has had to endure similar trials). Let him realize that you understand she may not be emotionally prepared for a sexual relationship at her age (And pray to GOD he does not actually press charges). Not seeing her may be difficult (I don't care what anyone says, if the two of you lost your virginity together then you will always have some sort of emotional connection to each other. And seriously...you can live without sex for a while.) but it is the only positive solution. One of 3 things will happen.

1. The most likely scenario (Sorry, call me jaded): You will find someone else closer to your own age, probably at college. You'll fall in love several more times. Lots a nice gals out there, I promise ya. Problem with that is there are a lot of nice guys too and she may find someone first. Se la vi.

2. The least likely scenario (once again, sorry): Her father will see by your austere, self imposed chastity that your intentions are pure. He'll then give the (non-sexual) relationship his blessings and all will be well. (Just to re-iterate...VERY unlikely)

3. The most romantically apt scenario: Her father will never believe you are anything but a hooligan and will make sure you never come in contact with her...for 3 years, then if you two still have feelings for each other theres little he can do...except cut of her credit card, her insurance, her college fund, and well...ok, he can still do a lot...but no one will go to jail!

Oh yea, one last scenario....

4. You throw caution to the wind and "Your heart will be broken when you get into custody for Statutory Rape"...yup...Gotta agree with the man there.

The way I see it you have three options that end well and one that doesn't. And if you decide that she's worth waiting for then don't feel down! Just listen to Don Quixote, the most noble Knight errant there ever was, when he says "That glorious quest...to love pure and chaste from afar"

And just so you know: The problem isn't the age difference, it's HER age. The truth is that most 15 year old girls are just not emotionally mature enough for a sexual relationship. Biology and hormones have a way of beating emotional stability in the great race of life. What can I say, the big guy upstairs messed up on the wiring a little. Bottom line is that being sexually active too early can lead to physiological problems that can persist for ones entire life...her whole life. Now maybe you think that she's uncharacteristically mature for her age. Maybe she is. The thing you need to ask yourself is this: If you really care about her then how willing are you to take that risk? An unplanned pregnancy at her age could prove fatal. Even if there is a 95% chance that the two of you could be sexually active and suffer no ill consequences, even then...if you love her, are you willing to take that 5% chance?

I don't know, maybe I'm just a big softy. I'm a 26 year old Theatre/Writing major with so many love poetry compilations on my shelf that it's just embarrassing. But you have to follow the rules man. You're not gonna win anyone onto your side by hurling insults at the person who raised someone you claim to love. If you really, REALLY believe that you care about this girl then you'll play by the rules. I swear to god it's the only way to go...and pray to your favorite god that her dad is not gonna press charges, because Uncle Sam never read "Romeo and Juliet" in high school.

As for everyone else, (Besides PJ who was civil and gave good advice) chill out! He's 17!! If you want to yell self-righteous platitudes at someone yell at me! I'm on probation right now for a DUI. Yea, that's right. I messed up and actually endangered lives! This guy didn't hurt anybody! All this kid did was let his hormones get in the way of his judgment. You assume this guy is a miscreant because he called her father a douche? For pete's sake! Drop the hypocrisies! Stop acting like you were never young and hated your girlfriend's parents for doing something you later realized was right. If we rounded up every male in this country who at some point hated his girlfriend's parents or his in-laws then we would have...well, every male in the country. If you want to point out that he is in serious legal trouble then do so, but don't just say " You should keep seeing her, until you're incarcerated for rape". That's not "telling it like it is". All you're doing is wording your judgment in the most sanctimonious and deliberately hurtful way you possible can. You enjoy trolling these board looking for people you can belittle? Come on, hit me. I got in a car drunk and drove around! I used to get angry when people judged me for that but those people are far, FAR more justified than you who are maliciously casting your venom coated daggers at this guy. The only one of you that actually gave him advice was PJ. If you're gonna morally condemn people for having affection for a 15 year old then you should throw Edgar Allen Poe, Byron, Dante Alighieri, Socrates and Plato into the mix as well. Along with almost the entire population of the world before 1700.

I apologize for the tirade. I was just appalled by the lack of compassion and utter belligerence some of you show to people coming here for advice...and you don't even bother giving any advice.

*I now expose my breast for the coming onslaught of criticism*

I coulda gone all day without seeing your breast.

You have obviously been spending a little too much time in the theater. Welcome to the real world, where we have laws. And remember Romeo??? not such a happy ending for the young lovers.

And YOUR advice was?????? oh, yeah, you didn't give any. legal or otherwise.

Except that we shoud "be nice". profound.

 

[Ohiogal]

Romeo and Juliet were BOTH sixteen years old. Both killed themselves. Yet they each died a virgin. No sex involved. So how is Romeo and Juliet at all relating to this thread?

 

[Silverplum]

Romeo and Juliet were BOTH sixteen years old. Both killed themselves. Yet they each died a virgin. No sex involved. So how is Romeo and Juliet at all relating to this thread?

(Not to mention that whole "they were FICTION" thing. )

 

[Darkwingpuck]

Wow. OK, I guess I'll try to respond to everyone in a single post.

First rule of writing. Do not use terms/phrases that you can't spell or are too lazy to get right. It is C'est la vie.

Thank you for pointing out my mistake, the error has been corrected.

If you'll recall, they had an even more miserable outcome than any you laid out.

Very true. But if you have the time you should look over the play again and ask yourself these questions: Who are the protagonists? Who are the antagonists? What actions lead to the series of events that culminate in this story being a tragedy? I think if you answer those questions you will see why Romeo and Juliet is a particularly appropriate story to bring up under the circumstances. Also, it was meant as a joke. Obviously Uncle Sam has never read Romeo and Juliet since Uncle Sam is not real.

Originally Posted by Darkwingpuck View Post
Blah blah blah blah, blahblahblah blah blah....
To which I would like to add: SHE'S FIFTEEN, YOU IDIOT!

Touché

Oh, really?
Then what, precisely, do you call the valid legal info *I* googled and provided for Teen Horndog in the very first response?

You're right. I missed that. It was when you overreacted to a seventeen year old calling his girlfriend's father a douche that I really had problem with you. You could have just stopped posting if you had a serious problem with him but you instead you took the time to insult him and accuse him of being a "horndog" when he had given you evidence of nothing other than not liking his girlfriend's father. Is he right to think of this girl's father as a douche? Of course he isn't. I'm going to assume that you are an adult. As an adult on an ADVICE forum you had the option to inform him of why he was wrong in an adult manner rather than rebutting his juvenile colloquialism with an equally infantile response of your own. "Teen horndog"? "Blahblahblahblah"? His excuse is that he's seventeen years old, legally not an adult. He's a child. What's your excuse?

But you are correct. You're initial response was civil and it did provide a reasonably researched bit of legislation. I have adjusted that line of my post accordingly.

Needed to save this whole parody of a post for future reference.

I'm honored.

This is the statute that states if you were no more than 24 months older....

Not that it helps you though, since you are 26 months older.

That was very helpful. It was direct answer to a problem he had with a list of possible solutions and the issues with those solutions. You didn't add any unnecessary insults or childish comments. It was what he needed. This is, of course, just my opinion. Maybe you should call him a horndog rapist just for good measure.

coulda gone all day without seeing your breast.
You have obviously been spending a little too much time in the theater. Welcome to the real world, where we have laws. And remember Romeo??? not such a happy ending for the young lovers.
And YOUR advice was?????? oh, yeah, you didn't give any. legal or otherwise.
Except that we shoud "be nice". profound.

I am aware we have laws. In my post I advised TJ to obey them. The bulk of my post which was directed at TJ consisted not only of the advise that he should obey the law and distance himself from the girl but also gave him reasons why he should do this. I am often amazed out how often a person will accept advice when you also explain the reasoning behind it. We question, it is our nature. Satiate that hunger for knowledge in full and you cultivate wisdom. As for Romeo, look at my response to stealth2 and I think that will address your issue. (Gotta say though, I'm amazed at how many people are harping on my Romeo and Juliet reference. Out of that entire rambling post the reference to a fictional figure never having read a piece of fiction is the most inflammatory comment I made?)

Romeo and Juliet were BOTH sixteen years old. Both killed themselves. Yet they each died a virgin. No sex involved. So how is Romeo and Juliet at all relating to this thread?

Correction: Romeo was around 18/19. Juliet was closer to 13. They did consummate their marriage; Juliet at least lost her virginity to Romeo. It is implied that Romeo lost his to her as well. You may be confusing Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet" with "Romeus and Juliet" by Arthur Brooke in which the female protagonist is 16. As for the appropriateness of the reference, check the first post I responded to. Although the Shakespeare reference was just meant as coloring. It certainly wasn't the bulkhead of my post.

If you read up on Shakespearean literature you'll find the age discrepancy to be not uncommon. e.g. In "A Midsummer Night's Dream" Most Shakespearean scholars will tell you that Helena and Hermia were no older than 15 while Lysander and Demetrius were 19.

And yes. It is a piece of fiction. I mentioned Don Quixote as well; and the Beatles song "Let it Be".



I'm not saying that anyone should candy coat their advice or act like everything is fine and dandy. But as someone who initially came here seeking legal advice I found that a number of people that post are more interested in defamation and insults. At best the advice some give is worded in an intentionally immature and caustic way. Yes the law is severe, as it sometimes should be. But here is a person who was scared and came here seeking advice. Many of you did nothing but try to insult and terrify him. Why? Why was that necessary?

"An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates his duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." - Thomas Paine

 

[Silverplum]

And it took you all day to *craft* that response.

This is a LEGAL BOARD. Read that again. And again.

Now say it to yourself: LEGAL ISSUES, LEGAL BOARD.

Now say this aloud: IT IS ILLEGAL TO HAVE SEX WITH A CHILD. SEX WITH A CHILD IS CALLED, "RAPE."

We don't answer to you, drama boy. If you can't figure out what's ILLEGAL, much less WRONG, with RAPING a CHILD, then you clearly have no redeeming features.

Wow. OK, I guess I'll try to respond to everyone in a single post.




Thank you for pointing out my mistake, the error has been corrected.



Very true. But if you have the time you should look over the play again and ask yourself these questions: Who are the protagonists? Who are the antagonists? What actions lead to the series of events that culminate in this story being a tragedy? I think if you answer those questions you will see why Romeo and Juliet is a particularly appropriate story to bring up under the circumstances. Also, it was meant as a joke. Obviously Uncle Sam has never read Romeo and Juliet since Uncle Sam is not real.




Touché




You're right. I missed that. It was when you overreacted to a seventeen year old calling his girlfriend's father a douche that I really had problem with you. You could have just stopped posting if you had a serious problem with him but you instead you took the time to insult him and accuse him of being a "horndog" when he had given you evidence of nothing other than not liking his girlfriend's father. Is he right to think of this girl's father as a douche? Of course he isn't. I'm going to assume that you are an adult. As an adult on an ADVICE forum you had the option to inform him of why he was wrong in an adult manner rather than rebutting his juvenile colloquialism with an equally infantile response of your own. "Teen horndog"? "Blahblahblahblah"? His excuse is that he's seventeen years old, legally not an adult. He's a child. What's your excuse?

But you are correct. You're initial response was civil and it did provide a reasonably researched bit of legislation. I have adjusted that line of my post accordingly.




I'm honored.




That was very helpful. It was direct answer to a problem he had with a list of possible solutions and the issues with those solutions. You didn't add any unnecessary insults or childish comments. It was what he needed. This is, of course, just my opinion. Maybe you should call him a horndog rapist just for good measure.




I am aware we have laws. In my post I advised TJ to obey them. The bulk of my post which was directed at TJ consisted not only of the advise that he should obey the law and distance himself from the girl but also gave him reasons why he should do this. I am often amazed out how often a person will accept advice when you also explain the reasoning behind it. We question, it is our nature. Satiate that hunger for knowledge in full and you cultivate wisdom. As for Romeo, look at my response to stealth2 and I think that will address your issue. (Gotta say though, I'm amazed at how many people are harping on my Romeo and Juliet reference. Out of that entire rambling post the reference to a fictional figure never having read a piece of fiction is the most inflammatory comment I made?)




Correction: Romeo was around 18/19. Juliet was closer to 13. They did consummate their marriage; Juliet at least lost her virginity to Romeo. It is implied that Romeo lost his to her as well. You may be confusing Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet" with "Romeus and Juliet" by Arthur Brooke in which the female protagonist is 16. As for the appropriateness of the reference, check the first post I responded to. Although the Shakespeare reference was just meant as coloring. It certainly wasn't the bulkhead of my post.

If you read up on Shakespearean literature you'll find the age discrepancy to be not uncommon. e.g. In "A Midsummer Night's Dream" Most Shakespearean scholars will tell you that Helena and Hermia were no older than 15 while Lysander and Demetrius were 19.

And yes. It is a piece of fiction. I mentioned Don Quixote as well; and the Beatles song "Let it Be".



I'm not saying that anyone should candy coat their advice or act like everything is fine and dandy. But as someone who initially came here seeking legal advice I found that a number of people that post are more interested in defamation and insults. At best the advice some give is worded in an intentionally immature and caustic way. Yes the law is severe, as it sometimes should be. But here is a person who was scared and came here seeking advice. Many of you did nothing but try to insult and terrify him. Why? Why was that necessary?

"An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates his duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." - Thomas Paine

 

[Darkwingpuck]

For edification I am a student and have classes. I responded when I got back from class.

My Issue: I see in large font "Free Advice" as the name of this forum. A Legal ADVICE Board. You seem to have omitted the portion of the description that you would rather not adhere to. What I am doing is pointing out that you are not providing what this board is for. You tell me that I shouldn't post things that do not contain pertinent legal advice?

You should stop committing statutory rape, is what you should do.

And you should hope/pray that Dad (who is in NO way, shape, or form a "douche" for protecting his daughter from a horndog) doesn't file criminal charges upon you.

Blahblahblah.

You lost me when you called her FATHER a "douche."

Go find out your own info, smartboy.

Please point out to me what legal advice you gave TJ in these two posts. "Don't commit statutory rape" - A little late for that, irrelevant advice. "He should pray?" -That's theological advice. "Blahblahblah" - That's great if your 12 (love all the smiley faces by the way) "You lost me when you called her FATHER a "douche" - irrelevant. "Go find your own info, smartboy" - That would be the purpose of this forum.

If you are going to accuse me of being irrelevant to this forum then maybe you should examine your own posts sir. A hypocrite is a terrible thing.

Oh, and by the way...

Rape: Legal definition: A criminal offense defined in most states as forcible sexual relations with a person against that person's will.

My advice:
You might wanna add "statutory" in there buddy. Because it looks a little like you're insinuating that this particular person is a rapist. LEGALLY you would be in some trouble if you falsely accused someone on a public forum of rape who was being charged with statutory. Especially if he is actually charged. That's what you call "defamation of character" or "libel". Libel is a published or fixed form of defamation of character; a civil wrong that falsely impugns the reputation or character of a person or entity, opening the target up to public scorn or ridicule.

Advice for TJ:
In case you need it:

http://www.ehow.com/how_2063889_sue-defamation-character.html

It's a web site with a little advice on pursuing law suits for defamation.

http://www.lawyers.com/Libel,-Slander-And-Defamation/Arizona/browse-by-city.html

And this is a listing of lawyers in your area that specialize in defamation suits. Just in case you meet someone like Silverplum in real life.

 

[>Charlotte<]

You know, the only thing worse than a hypocrite is a pompous hypocrite.

ETA: Let's make that a pompous hypocrite who's way too impressed with himself.

 

[Darkwingpuck]

Alright TJ, I did a little hunting around the Arizona constitution web site. Here's what I found.

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/01405.htm

and

13-1407. Defenses
It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to sections 13-1404 and 13-1405 involving a minor if the act was done in furtherance of lawful medical practice.

B. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to sections 13-1404 and 13-1405 in which the victim's lack of consent is based on incapacity to consent because the victim was fifteen, sixteen or seventeen years of age if at the time the defendant engaged in the conduct constituting the offense the defendant did not know and could not reasonably have known the age of the victim.

C. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1402, 13-1404, 13-1405 or 13-1406 if the act was done by a duly licensed physician or registered nurse or a person acting under the physician's or nurse's direction, or any other person who renders emergency care at the scene of an emergency occurrence, the act consisted of administering a recognized and lawful form of treatment that was reasonably adapted to promoting the physical or mental health of the patient and the treatment was administered in an emergency when the duly licensed physician or registered nurse or a person acting under the physician's or nurse's direction, or any other person rendering emergency care at the scene of an emergency occurrence, reasonably believed that no one competent to consent could be consulted and that a reasonable person, wishing to safeguard the welfare of the patient, would consent.

D. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1404 or 13-1405 that the person was the spouse of the other person at the time of commission of the act. It is not a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1406 that the defendant was the spouse of the victim at the time of commission of the act.

E. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1404 or 13-1410 that the defendant was not motivated by a sexual interest. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1404 involving a victim under fifteen years of age that the defendant was not motivated by a sexual interest.

F. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1405 if the victim is fifteen, sixteen or seventeen years of age, the defendant is under nineteen years of age or attending high school and is no more than twenty-four months older than the victim and the conduct is consensual.

These only apply in the criminal court. According to title 8, article 201 Of the Arizona State statutes these laws do not apply to you. You are under 18 years of age and thus fall under the jurisdiction of the state Juvenile court. Juvenile court has the option to send you on to criminal court, but this is highly unlikely considering the nature of the offense. You would only be charged as an adult if the sexual act had been involving the intentional or knowing infliction of serious physical injury or the discharge, use or threatening exhibition of a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, as per title 13, article 501 of the criminal code. Since the act was consensual the prosecutor would have little grounds for taking you to trial as an adult. That is if you already have a pretty clean record. You could possibly be tried as an adult if you have a previous record of similar problems...which is unlikely if this girl took your virginity.

As far as what action the juvenile court would take? Well, I've been looking over some precedents from previous cases like yours and often times the cases have been dropped entirely with only a slight reprimand and an order to obey the wishes of the parents. The occasional mandatory enrollment in sex-ed type school is also sometimes given. But from what I read it's more of a school for those charged with repeat sexual delinquency.

So, what are your odds of actually being incarcerated for this? Well...if you comply with her father's wishes they're just about 0%. If you disobey her father's wishes in the next 5 months you may be looking at some time in Juvi. If you have any sexual relations with her after that period then you'll be looking at a class 6 felony. So take the advice I gave you earlier. Lay off the sex, do what her dad wants, prove your sincerity and hope that he forgives you. If you're lucky you'll be allowed to maintain a non-sexual relationship with her at some point. Or you'll find someone else or blah blah blah blah. You get the picture. But rest easy, don't worry about going to jail. You won't. IF you play by the rules. Good Luck sir.

Oh and you can go Here:

http://www.azleg.gov/ArizonaRevisedStatutes.asp

If you want to check out the laws for yourself. Title 8, chapter 2 deals with Juvenile court. That's what you'll want to look at.

 

[2FAST4U08]

wow u guys r really immature. anyway....in my opinion (which probably means absolutely nothing), if u truly love her and she truly loves u...then 4 godsake w8t till u 2 r both 18 and then b happy 2gether. I'm not sayin her dad will ever 4give u but who said parents can keep u 2 from seein each otha when yall r legally adults? Now if only i can take my own advice lol...

 

[Just Blue]

blah blah blah....in my opinion (which probably means absolutely nothing), blah blah blah blah blah blah...

You're right...Your opinion means nothing.

 

[2FAST4U08]

once again someone proves their immaturity on this site...good job!