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Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Do they ever make one person pay all the fees? The reason I'm asking is 1) I'm hoping they appoint a GAL. 2) I lost my job and hopefully soon I will have some side work to do but who knows. My buddy had told me with his case they made his ex pay all but $100 but I do know that all mags/judges are different. Is it possible in summit county.
It is possible but not probable. They like to make both parties pay half for the simple reason that that way NEITHER party can say that the GAL was influenced by who was paying the bill.
 


CJane

Senior Member
If you can't afford to pay the GAL, how do you propose to support the child once you 'win'?
 
Did this subject really require a second thread????
Well yes because I am knew to this whole computer thing and my wife tried to post for me and was told that I needed to do it. Which now I totally understand she was not tryin to overstep.. Now I am getting used to this whole computer thing so sorry about too many threads.
 
If you can't afford to pay the GAL, how do you propose to support the child once you 'win'?
Hopefully this is temporary. If not I have another trade that I do and it makes pretty good money a week. So that is how I will take care of my child.
 
Another question

I know you all wanted me to post under the same thread. But at the time I was learning how all this works so I will post any updates on this thread. Again Sorry.

Do the courts recognize PAS?
 

CJane

Senior Member
I know you all wanted me to post under the same thread. But at the time I was learning how all this works so I will post any updates on this thread. Again Sorry.

Do the courts recognize PAS?
No. Parental Alienation Syndrome has been thoroughly discredited in the courts and so has the person who 'created' the syndrome.

You'd be far better served to focus on your child's best interests rather than Mom's shortcomings - but I know that's exceedingly unpopular advice when it comes to you.
 
No. Parental Alienation Syndrome has been thoroughly discredited in the courts and so has the person who 'created' the syndrome.

You'd be far better served to focus on your child's best interests rather than Mom's shortcomings - but I know that's exceedingly unpopular advice when it comes to you.

but I know that's exceedingly unpopular advice when it comes to you.

I'm sorry but I think that is pretty rude of you. I am looking after my daughter's best interest that is why I asked the question. I have done nothing to you or this board. I have always thanked everyone for the advice. Never have I bad mouthed anyone either. Don't really appreciate it!!!
 

CJane

Senior Member
I'm sorry but I think that is pretty rude of you. I am looking after my daughter's best interest that is why I asked the question. I have done nothing to you or this board. I have always thanked everyone for the advice. Never have I bad mouthed anyone either. Don't really appreciate it!!!
I don't particularly care if you think I'm being rude.

I asked you repeatedly in your other thread to consider your child's best interests. You not only ignored the questions I asked you, you continued to focus ONLY on what was LEGALLY within your power (while not actually DOING anything) and not what might be BEST for your child.

By the time your thread was FIFTYFIVE posts long, you STILL had not addressed the issue of best interests.

https://forum.freeadvice.com/child-custody-visitation-37/mom-left-state-470878-p4.html#post2282172

So whatever.

Where's kiddo RIGHT NOW?
 
I don't particularly care if you think I'm being rude.

I asked you repeatedly in your other thread to consider your child's best interests. You not only ignored the questions I asked you, you continued to focus ONLY on what was LEGALLY within your power (while not actually DOING anything) and not what might be BEST for your child.

By the time your thread was FIFTYFIVE posts long, you STILL had not addressed the issue of best interests.

https://forum.freeadvice.com/child-custody-visitation-37/mom-left-state-470878-p4.html#post2282172

So whatever.

Where's kiddo RIGHT NOW?
Kiddo is in my care right now. Yeah maybe I shouldn't have took the police there. But STEP GRANDPARENTS have no rights. I wouldn't have a problem to her seeing the STEPS but they continue to question her about what happens at my house,manipulating her to no end,telling her that she should of yelled at me for filing the restraining order as also her step dad did this too. All that I want is for my daughter to be HAPPY and not have to deal with adult situations. Our daughter deserves to be in a stable home, gave a supportive family, still be able to have contact with her friends.
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
Kiddo is in my care right now. Yeah maybe I shouldn't have took the police there. But STEP GRANDPARENTS have no rights. I wouldn't have a problem to her seeing the STEPS but they continue to question her about what happens at my house,manipulating her to no end,telling her that she should of yelled at me for filing the restraining order as also her step dad did this too. All that I want is for my daughter to be HAPPY and not have to deal with adult situations. Our daughter deserves to be in a stable home, gave a supportive family, still be able to have contact with her friends.
Blackshadow...Please do not feel as if you need to justify the perfectly legally valid, morally correct and absolutely CORRECT PARENTAL decision to get your child from the legal strangers. You did the right thing. Keep your child.
 
Blackshadow...Please do not feel as if you need to justify the perfectly legally valid, morally correct and absolutely CORRECT PARENTAL decision to get your child from the legal strangers. You did the right thing. Keep your child.
Thanks Blue Meanie! I know what I did is right and it's for our daughter. I'm not trying to have a nasty battle but mother on the other hand sure wants too. I'll just do what I have to do. LEGALLY,MORALLY
 

wileybunch

Senior Member
blackshadow, given you don't have a ROFR and didn't give the required notice to exercise time at THIS time, why are you so bent on having THIS time with the child? I looked through your previous thread and other than the child being with his grandfather and step-grandmother (if I read that right) and not with his mom while she's away at another state, I don't see why you are insisting on THESE 4 weeks for your summer time.

My DH has a ROFR in his parenting agreement. Each summer they split the time 50/50. Found out Mom will be out of the country for some of the time she has DD this month. So DH is in a similar situation to yours (and his ex is also very alienating and has been in court for contempt a little less than 2 years ago). And, I can't see the point of him exercising his ROFR because they developed a 50/50 schedule for this summer and if he takes DD the days Mom's out of the country, quite frankly he should GIVE UP other days in exchange. So he will just leave things alone. So why don't you? I get that the grandparents/stepgrandparents don't have as much legal standing as you, but so what?! You only get 4 weeks in the summer for parenting time and this is NOT the time you chose to exercise. The child has a right to visit extended family on Mom's time. Nothing is being taken AWAY from you. Is there a piece of this that's missing? Are you afraid you will NOT get the 4 weeks you'd already arranged with the 60 day's notice required per your CO?

I understand legally you can do this and the most that you're advised would happen is potentially a "slap on the wrist", but I'm not getting why you are so hellbent on REMOVING the child from the relative's house given it is not your time and you do not have a ROFR.

I will also say that I felt CJane was very harsh with you and I did not agree with how she was expressing herself and read back to the previous thread for the history, expecting to still not agree with CJane, but actually I do now having read what I think is the "whole story", as much as you've posted it here.
 

profmum

Senior Member
I understand legally you can do this and the most that you're advised would happen is potentially a "slap on the wrist", but I'm not getting why you are so hellbent on REMOVING the child from the relative's house given it is not your time and you do not have a ROFR.


This is exactly my confusion as well..Blackshadow, can you clarify? I will say this, if the child is with you when she is NOT supposed to be, a "slap on the wrist" is NOT what you end up facing from the courts.
 
Court is tomorrow well really today. I have good vibes things are gonna go good. I will post to let everyone know what happened. Thanks again for all the great advice.
 

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