Here we go again

[LdiJ]

An employer sponsored group policy is going to seriously restrict who can be covered on the plan. A spouse of the employee can. Children of the employee can. Step and adopted children of an employee can. In some cases, ex-spouses of the employee can as long as they were married to the employee when coverage started and only became ex-spouses after the coverage was already in place.

But under no circumstances is the ex-spouse of the employee's spouse going to be an eligible dependent under the plan.

Dad may have made the attempt. He may have confused the insurance company into temporarily agreeing to it, or at least to reviewing it. But I promise you, under no circumstances whatsoever is he going to permanently be considered covered under your current husband's plan.

And even if he did (which he won't) that would NOT give him access to your daughter's information.

Earlier in the thread however, it did appear that total access to the entire policy file is what dad is after. He was asking for things like the original insurance application etc.

I don't think that dad was after coverage, I think he is after information. His history seems to back that up as well.

 

[novemberbride]

My husband and I were initially confused about what dad meant by being "added" to the policy. My husband assumption was that dad figured if he was added, as a covered dependant, he would be able to obtain information.

However, from what we're learning from the company, dad's demand was to be be on the policy, like an owner of the policy, to have full access to information, including making changes.

 

[LdiJ]

My husband and I were initially confused about what dad meant by being "added" to the policy. My husband assumption was that dad figured if he was added, as a covered dependant, he would be able to obtain information.

However, from what we're learning from the company, dad's demand was to be be on the policy, like an owner of the policy, to have full access to information, including making changes.

Even a court couldn't give him that. Not for an employer sponsored policy. I am not even sure that a court could give him that for a private policy that covered other adults and children who were not related to the case.

 

[novemberbride]

I didn't think it would be possible for him to obtain information based on our custody order, which doesn't even speak about health insurance coverage.

If he has altered a document, and presented it as a legal court order, what happens?

 

[CSO286]

I didn't think it would be possible for him to obtain information based on our custody order, which doesn't even speak about health insurance coverage.

If he has altered a document, and presented it as a legal court order, what happens?

Mucho mas badness!!!!

Falsiyfing court docs--not good.

Kind of illegal. (well more than kind of. )

 

[novemberbride]

Could the "mucho mas badness" be applied to dad representing himself as something he isn't. Like, telling people he's an attorney or court official?

He does that all the time....

 

[LdiJ]

Could the "mucho mas badness" be applied to dad representing himself as something he isn't. Like, telling people he's an attorney or court official?

He does that all the time....

He could be seriously prosecuted for that. That is a serious criminal offense. The more you talk about this guy the more it appears that he really needs to be locked up.

 

[SESmama]

Kind of scary to think a guy like this is still walking around. I am all for civil liberties but this guy doesn't even sound civil, much less lucid.

 

[RRevak]

What I cant fathom is why the courts have allowed dad to be around the child ALONE while in this mental state? ESPECIALLY when they are well aware he's off his rocker!

 

[novemberbride]

Get's interesting

Talked to husband a moment ago.

He got a call from a different man from the insurance company. Man told husband that we needed to have an attorney subponea records from them. The only information that this man told my husband that the court order that they recieved from dad DID NOT match the one we provided them with.

Husband asked why can't we see it and any other requests dad made. And, the man said it's now a legal matter, and to protect everyone involved, any records requested would have to be subponea'ed.

 

[cbg]

Earlier in the thread however, it did appear that total access to the entire policy file is what dad is after. He was asking for things like the original insurance application etc.

I don't think that dad was after coverage, I think he is after information. His history seems to back that up as well.

I understand that, not being mentally deficient. What I am saying is that EVEN IF by some quirk he is able to obtain coverage, it will not give him access to information.

As I said, I do this for a living, and have done so for more than thirty years. I think that by now I'm capable of sorting through the details when it involves something I do every working day of my life.

 

[PQN]

Talked to husband a moment ago.

He got a call from a different man from the insurance company. Man told husband that we needed to have an attorney subponea records from them. The only information that this man told my husband that the court order that they recieved from dad DID NOT match the one we provided them with.

Husband asked why can't we see it and any other requests dad made. And, the man said it's now a legal matter, and to protect everyone involved, any records requested would have to be subponea'ed.

Definitely have the attorney subpoena those records, if dad falsified a court order to gain access to HIPPA-protected information....well, he would be in a lot of trouble, as in, he might not be bothering anyone for awhile.

 

[novemberbride]

If we subponea the records from the health insurance company, will we have to subponea a person from the company to verify the records are valid and from the company?

 

[ecmst12]

There is no violation in him ASKING for information. It is impossible for dad himself to violate HIPAA since he is not bound by it. If the insurance company improperly disclosed information, THEY would be guilty of a HIPAA violation. But HIPAA really has nothing to do with anything important here.

What dad really wants is to be listed on the policy as a person who is allowed to receive information about his child. I don't remember if he has joint legal custody though. If you have sole legal custody, he's NOT entitled to information and it's up to YOU and you alone what to share with him.

 

[novemberbride]

We have joint legal custody. Dad has a copy of the insurance card, and has had one since this insurance became in effect. He has all information on daughter's pediatrician, and dentist.

Why should dad be allowed to see this information in regards to me, my husband and infant? I understand him wanting for our daughter, and he has the information regarding her doctor's appointments, etc. But, he's asking for information on the entire insurance policy.