school is giving condoms to my 11 year olds!!

[Humusluvr]

Or, confront the school administration. Make it uncomfortable for them to pursue actions that may be abhorrent to local community standards and may, perhaps, be considered encouraging criminal activity (depending ont he laws in the OP's state concerning underage sexual activity).

At the very least, consider options that might allow for parents to opt-out their children without any negative hit to their academics.

I don't think you can continue this attitude of "what I want for my kid trumps all" here. There are parents that are not responsible. There are kids who are not/are responsible. There are kids who need this resource. Just because you find it abhorrent does not mean that you trump all.

If you came to me, in my administrative role, I would tell you that the health of all the students trumps the discomfort of one parent. In this day and age, the research has been conducted, and the studies show that students need access to birth control. There are plenty of studies that show this is necessary and is the real and honest truth of living in this day.

 

[tranquility]

I'm pointing out the data does not support the concept that giving out condoms in school makes a public health benefit. So if you were to point out some rubbish about the "health of all students" I'd have to have you prove it up.

 

[Humusluvr]

Excellent idea! I just want to add that OP should not only go to local administration, but also the superintendent and the board of education. The school principal will be uncomfortable, but not always able to make a change. Changes happen with the Board. (at least in our district)

And, as an administrator, I would tell you that if what is good for the student body as a whole is not good for your child, you should take them somewhere else, or do your parently duties and talk to your kids about what society is like these days.

Tell them the teen pregnancy stats.

Tell the the teen HIV/AIDS stats.

Tell them about sexual predators, and the dangers of the internet.

Teach them, instead putting other people's kids (more) into harms way.

 

[Just Blue]

No, the OP - and the rest of us - have little to no choice but to send a child to public school. Since private school is generally beyond the means of any parents, we are forced to cow-tow to the moral teachings of others that we may not entirely agree with. And as schools have departed from the basics of education into cultural advancement, they have also run afoul of the beliefs of many parents.

I no more want my kids indoctrinated in a humanist philosophy of do what you please than you might want your child indoctrinated in my Christian faith. Why should your beliefs trump mine?


Or, confront the school administration. Make it uncomfortable for them to pursue actions that may be abhorrent to local community standards and may, perhaps, be considered encouraging criminal activity (depending ont he laws in the OP's state concerning underage sexual activity).

At the very least, consider options that might allow for parents to opt-out their children without any negative hit to their academics.

I teach my children morals, self-control, faith, respect for themselves and their bodies and the ability to make good and forward thinking decisions. A sex-ed teacher handing out condoms can NOT undo what I have done.

My children are getting another form of education to consider...If I have done my "job" correctly then all the free rubbers in the world can't influence them. But those rubbers MIGHT save another child, with less parental help, a unwanted pregnancy or STD.

 

[Humusluvr]

I'm pointing out the data does not support the concept that giving out condoms in school makes a public health benefit. So if you were to point out some rubbish about the "health of all students" I'd have to have you prove it up.

I just started researching in my school's Academic Search Complete, and the second article is " Public opinion about condoms for HIV and STD prevention: a Midwestern state telephone survey."

Abstract:
Context: Public opinion is important in determining condom and condom education policies in public high schools.
Methods: A random telephone survey of 517 Indiana residents was conducted from July through October 2003 to assess public opinion about education on correct condom use for HIV and STD prevention; condom availability in Indiana public high schools; and issues related to condom use, effectiveness and promotion. Data were analyzed using bivariate and linear regression techniques.
Results: A majority of respondents strongly or somewhat agreed that instruction on correct condom use for HIV and STD prevention should be provided in public high schools (77%), classroom instruction should include condoms (71%), only medically accurate information about condoms should being given (94%) and the federal government should promote condoms (70%). Fewer than half (48%) strongly or somewhat agreed that condoms should be made available to teenagers in public high schools without parental permission. Nearly all (92%) considered condoms at least somewhat effective in preventing HIV and other STDs. Non-Republican party affiliation, younger age and condom use within the previous five years were each significantly associated with having positive opinions on many of the condom-related statements.
Conclusions: Public opinion appears to support the provision of correct condom use information in Indiana public schools. Schools should consider providing only medically accurate information about condoms and including condoms in instruction so students can see and touch them.

 

[tranquility]

And, as an administrator, I would tell you that if what is good for the student body as a whole is not good for your child, you should take them somewhere else, or do your parently duties and talk to your kids about what society is like these days.

And, people say it is conservatives who want to control people.

All for the feeling that giving out condoms in school is a good thing.

Tell them the teen pregnancy stats.

Tell the the teen HIV/AIDS stats.

Does giving out condoms in school reduce the incidence of those things?

Info edit:
Public OPINION!??

Thanks for playing. How we feel is certainly important.

 

[Humusluvr]

i teach my children morals, self-control, faith, respect for themselves and their bodies and the ability to make good and forward thinking decisions. A sex-ed teacher handing out condoms can not undo what i have done.

My children are getting another form of education to consider...if i have done my "job" correctly then all the free rubbers in the world can't influence them. But those rubbers might save another child, with less parental help, a unwanted pregnancy or std.

exactly! Well put!

 

[Humusluvr]

And, people say it is conservatives who want to control people.

All for the feeling that giving out condoms in school is a good thing.
Does giving out condoms in school reduce the incidence of those things?

I'm a conservative.

 

[CdwJava]

I don't think you can continue this attitude of "what I want for my kid trumps all" here.

Not what I am arguing for at all.

But, as schools have ventured into areas previously the venue of the home and family - values - they have confronted those who hold particular beliefs. We should be given the opportunity to opt in or out of those things that directly confront our beliefs and are not specifically related to the primary function of the education system - to educate. Unfortunately, for anyone who has been paying attention (at least in CA) the system has begun to evolve from "educate" to include significant elements of "indoctrinate."

Your state may vary.

If you came to me, in my administrative role, I would tell you that the health of all the students trumps the discomfort of one parent.

Then give me the option to opt out without penalizing my child. And give me advanced notice of days, assemblies, etc, that might be controversial fr those of particular faiths.

In this day and age, the research has been conducted, and the studies show that students need access to birth control. There are plenty of studies that show this is necessary and is the real and honest truth of living in this day.

They HAVE access. They do NOT need the schools passing them out.

Schools have grown far beyond their original, historical mission. Perhaps if we return to that mission we will find cost savings. In my state mandated educational hours have increased for all manner of socialization soft programs at the expense of education. Imagine what they could save if they did not have to waste hours of time on feel-good programs that do nothing to provide a foundational education or prepare a child for a career or a future education?

My beliefs do not trump yours, but yours should not trump mine, either.

 

[Humusluvr]

Does giving out condoms in school reduce the incidence of those things?

Do condoms reduce AIDS and pregnancy? Are you kidding?

 

[Just Blue]

I'm a conservative.

SURPRISE!! I'm a liberal!!

 

[Humusluvr]

From the article " Condom Availability Programs in the Public Schools: Approved in the Courts."


Abstract:
The article reports on the Condom Availability Programmes introduced in the U.S. public schools. From late 1980s, a growing number of public schools have been making condoms available to its students as part of multipronged efforts to reduce the risk of unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), including AIDS. The varied formats of the programme has been described in detail. Condoms may be obtained from health counselors or from a basket Students can also take them from vending machines. The programme demands voluntary participation. It also reports that the schools which adopted this programme did so primarily in response to the alarming rates of HIV infection among teenagers. Thirty-four States and District of Columbia have enacted laws requiring schools to provide education on STDs overall or HIV/AIDS in particular. American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, The American School Health Association and the National Medical Association have supported the Condom Availability Programme. Federal Court's view that parents have no right to tailor public schools programmes to meet their individual religious or moral preferences has been highlighted.

 

[Humusluvr]

SURPRISE!! I'm a liberal!!

No way! I don't know how y'all can stand me sometimes, with my conservative attitude problem

 

[Just Blue]

Do condoms reduce AIDS and pregnancy? Are you kidding?

Of course not. That is just Government Propaganda to mislead morally confused youths. dah.

 

[Just Blue]

No way! I don't know how y'all can stand me sometimes, with my conservative attitude problem

Peshaw! We liberals are openminded!