Electric Car Charging

[NeilTheCop]

So what changed six months ago that the receptacle suddenly lost its ground?

He may be able to get it repaired through California Civil Code 1941.1 - Implied Warranty of Habitability:

(5) Electrical lighting, with wiring and electrical equipment that conformed with applicable law at the time of installation, maintained in good working order.

The OP will have to do a bit of digging and find out what the California Electrical Code required when the apartment was built.

 

[Zigner]

He may be able to get it repaired through California Civil Code 1941.1 - Implied Warranty of Habitability:

(5) Electrical lighting, with wiring and electrical equipment that conformed with applicable law at the time of installation, maintained in good working order.

The OP will have to do a bit of digging and find out what the California Electrical Code required when the apartment was built.

It's an exterior outlet...

(Just sayin')

 

[NeilTheCop]

It's an exterior outlet...

(Just sayin')

As it's exterior and subject to getting wet then grounding is even more crucial.

 

[Zigner]

As it's exterior and subject to getting wet then grounding is even more crucial.

I agree, however, I don't agree that this would void a warranty of habitability

 

[NeilTheCop]

I agree, however, I don't agree that this would void a warranty of habitability

I'm far from an expert, but reading that particular civil code it appears that the owner of the property is required to maintain the electrical system to the code requirements in place at the time of it's construction. If the codes say that all power outlets had to be grounded the property owner is required to fix the ground.

 

[Zigner]

I'm far from an expert, but reading that particular civil code it appears that the owner of the property is required to maintain the electrical system to the code requirements in place at the time of it's construction. If the codes say that all power outlets had to be grounded the property owner is required to fix the ground.

Ok, that's a fair enough point. Of course, it has no bearing on the question of charging an electric vehicle from the outlet.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

The question here really isn't about the ungrounded plug. That is just what brought the charging to the attention of the LL. The plug may be required to be fixed but that doesn't stop the LL from adding verbiage to the lease that bans charging cars.

 

[NeilTheCop]

The question here really isn't about the ungrounded plug. That is just what brought the charging to the attention of the LL. The plug may be required to be fixed but that doesn't stop the LL from adding verbiage to the lease that bans charging cars.

It will get interesting as the OP seems willing to put up a fight
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=1947.6.&lawCode=CIV

 

[Zigner]

The OP hasn't indicated to us at all that he wants to pay the full costs to have a proper EV charging station installed. The OP wants to have the right to simply run an extension cord from a plug on his apartment out to his car, and that is NOT something that is allowed by the code section that has been cited.

 

[xylene]

The OP hasn't indicated to us at all that he wants to pay the full costs to have a proper EV charging station installed. The OP wants to have the right to simply run an extension cord from a plug on his apartment out to his car, and that is NOT something that is allowed by the code section that has been cited.

Assembly Bill No. 2565 CHAPTER 529
An act to add Sections 1947.6 and 1952.7 to the Civil Code, relating to tenancy.

(c) For purposes of this section, “electric vehicle charging station” or “charging station” means any level of electric vehicle supply equipment station that is designed and built in compliance with Article 625 of the California Electrical Code, as it reads on the effective date of this section, and delivers electricity from a source outside an electric vehicle into a plug-in electric vehicle.

And Article 625 of the California Electrical Code

https://www.documents.dgs.ca.gov/bsc/prpsd_chngs/2013/AD-HOC/BSC-03-13-ET-Pt3.pdf
Makes it pretty clear that a securely mounted grounded outlet connectable by a cord is acceptable as a charging station.

 

[Zigner]

Makes it pretty clear that a securely mounted grounded outlet connectable by a cord is acceptable as a charging station.

The OP has to run the cord from a structure, over a gate and to the parking spot. That is NOT an electric vehicle charging station.

 

[xylene]

The OP has to run the cord from a structure, over a gate and to the parking spot. That is NOT an electric vehicle charging station.

The gate could be an issue, but the code does not specify an unacceptable length of run. He's using the OEM charging cord, not an extension.

Even still, It's not like the OP would have to build a Mall-Style credit card operated EV station.
The code requirements barely differ versus any ordinary exterior outlet.

 

[Zigner]

The gate could be an issue, but the code does not specify an unacceptable length of run. He's using the OEM charging cord, not an extension.

Even still, It's not like the OP would have to build a Mall-Style credit card operated EV station.
The code requirements barely differ versus any ordinary exterior outlet.

No matter what, the OP would have to pay for it. Running an extension cord like the OP is doing does not make it a charging station. The OP would need to put his request in writing and pay for it to be installed.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

Makes it pretty clear that a securely mounted grounded outlet connectable by a cord is acceptable as a charging station.

No, what it makes is a safety hazard that OSHA or an Insurance carrier would a brick over.

 

[xylene]

Running an extension cord like the OP is doing does not make it a charging station

The op is not running an extension cord, it is the OEM charging cable

Why would the OP need to pay for an outlet that already exists?