Certificate of Rehab & Pardon CA

[paddywakk]

Depending on how far back you want to go, even "Native Americans" were likely immigrants, geographically speaking.

Agree. Unless you were born in "the cradle of humanity" every person on the face of the earth is descended from immigrants. I'm sick of hearing that "we're all immigrants (in the US)", myself.

 

[quincy]

I think that "we're all immigrants" needs to be emphasized so that "immigrant" does not become a derogatory term.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

Those of us that were born in this county don't meet the definition of immigrant. The last immigrant in my family was my grandfather on my father's side and he died long before I was born.

So saying we are all immigrants is little different than saying I'm black because way back in the genetic pool there was someone from Africa. Or not so way back because my Father's side of the family is from Sicily.

im·mi·grant
/ˈiməɡrənt/

noun
plural noun: immigrants

1. a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.
   "they found it difficult to expel illegal immigrants"
   

   synonyms:

   newcomer, settler, incomer, new arrival, migrant, emigrant; More

 

[quincy]

Dictionary definition aside - and I agree with you the word immigrant is often used contrary to definition - the phrase "we're all immigrants" is similar to the phrases "we are the world" or "we are one." It is a phrase of unity.

It is not meant to be taken literally (unless, of course, you are saying it as one of many sitting on the cement floors of a US detention center).

 

[cbg]

I find myself in an interesting position, being a US citizen who was born elsewhere, but also a citizen of my birth country. The US considers me to be a citizen born abroad; my birth country considers me an expat. So I am both an immigrant and I am not.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

I find myself in an interesting position, being a US citizen who was born elsewhere, but also a citizen of my birth country. The US considers me to be a citizen born abroad; my birth country considers me an expat. So I am both an immigrant and I am not.

You are also an emigrant. (I can't believe that Grameraly doesn't know that is a word).

 

[quincy]

You are also an emigrant. (I can't believe that Grameraly doesn't know that is a word).

Maybe because you are looking at the wrong site? The one I think you want is "Grammarly."

 

[cbg]

You are also an emigrant. (I can't believe that Grameraly doesn't know that is a word).

True.

 

[quincy]

I find myself in an interesting position, being a US citizen who was born elsewhere, but also a citizen of my birth country. The US considers me to be a citizen born abroad; my birth country considers me an expat. So I am both an immigrant and I am not.

I do not have dual citizenship but in recent years I have been tempted to say I'm Canadian.

 

[cbg]

I identify with that remark!

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

Maybe because you are looking at the wrong site? The one I think you want is "Grammarly."

Yet another Grammarly error. It doesn't call out a misspelling of its own name.

 

[quincy]

Yet another Grammarly error. It doesn't call out a misspelling of its own name.

And it should. Those who use Grammarly for help with grammar might be assumed to need some help with spelling, too.

 

[aldaron]

"The California Constitution gives the Governor the authority to grant clemency. A pardon does not minimize past conduct; it recognizes a person’s subsequent progress and accomplishments. A pardon does not expunge or erase the conviction." From the CA gov website. What good is a pardon if the conviction isn't expunged?

 

[quincy]

... What good is a pardon if the conviction isn't expunged?

San Diego County has published a good list of what a pardon will and will not do. Here is a link:

https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/sdc/public_defender/certificate_of_rehabilitation.html
A pardon is essentially an official recognition that an offender has been rehabilitated. It can restore some rights previously denied the offender, including in a few cases a restoration of firearms rights.

 

[aldaron]

WOW, always thought a pardon wiped the slate clean for the crime/s pardoned for.