Accused of Racism

[CO19]

To Laura...

Laura,

You seem to be a reasonable and educated lady; you have also posted some very good replies and questions during your brief stint on this public forum. However, it is unfortunate that as a new member, and trying to assist others, you had to walk into derision and ridicule by those whom are too cowardly to post yet their OWN credentials. In fact, in some cases, you can find their self-proclaimed expert advice literally across the Board and in every state.... amazing and unprecedented for most bona-fide attorneys, but true.

When you stumbled on this public forum, You probably had the notion, as I at first, that attorneys tend to carry themselves at a "higher-level" (much of my client base), if you will, and postings would reflect that above and beyond the "public at large". While there are some well-versed attorneys on this forum (i.e., IAAL), there are many that simply lack any billable work or client base and have opted to primarily use this public forum as a means of ridicule, derision, threats, and intimidation tactics b/c they get-off doing so and is entertaining to themselves.

Take it for what it's worth and just realize that this is a "public forum" and pick your battles....

 

[BelizeBreeze]

Laura,

You seem to be a reasonable and educated lady; you have also posted some very good replies and questions during your brief stint on this public forum. However, it is unfortunate that as a new member, and trying to assist others, you had to walk into derision and ridicule by those whom are too cowardly to post yet their OWN credentials. In fact, in some cases, you can find their self-proclaimed expert advice literally across the Board and in every state.... amazing and unprecedented for most bona-fide attorneys, but true.

When you stumbled on this public forum, You probably had the notion, as I at first, that attorneys tend to carry themselves at a "higher-level" (much of my client base), if you will, and postings would reflect that above and beyond the "public at large". While there are some well-versed attorneys on this forum (i.e., IAAL), there are many that simply lack any billable work or client base and have opted to primarily use this public forum as a means of ridicule, derision, threats, and intimidation tactics b/c they get-off doing so and is entertaining to themselves.

Take it for what it's worth and just realize that this is a "public forum" and pick your battles....

oh brother....talk about ass kissing.
I guess you'd like her to handle YOUR appeals from now on since she is a self-professed appellate attorney who handles criminal cases without membership in the Bar or even the hint of a license.

oh well, consider the source.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

Doesn't she sound like Meganproser?

 

[CO19]

oh brother....talk about ass kissing.
I guess you'd like her to handle YOUR appeals from now on since she is a self-professed appellate attorney who handles criminal cases without membership in the Bar or even the hint of a license.

Nope, no smooching on my end. I just think she, and all other new members, should understand that this is a "public forum" and not a closed-list of attorneys. I'm also not 100% clear myself as to her credentials other than what she has posted, however, I think as long as the owner of this forum wants to keep it open to the public, she has the same right as anyone else to post. Don't you?

Evidently, posting, or rather "proving", credentials is not a requirement, although I think it should be....

 

[You Are Guilty]

Evidently, posting, or rather "proving", credentials is not a requirement, although I think it should be....

Actually, as far as I know, anyone claiming or otherwise implying they are an admitted attorney are checked out by the management. I know I was, and since I'm still posting here, I guess I'm really me. I prefer not to "advertise" my credentials since I already get enough unsolicited PMs for advice and certainly don't need more.

And therein lay the problem with Jailhouse Laura who apparently doesn't understand the difference between graduating from law school and being admitted and practicing "real life" law.

 

[laurathelawyer]

Thanks for the supportive words, CO19. I realize I should be ignoring them, but it's like swatting flies and I find it somewhat amusing. It's a shame that people are driving away new members and flooding the board with irrelevant attacks. It's too bad the moderators tolerate it.

Evidently, posting, or rather "proving", credentials is not a requirement, although I think it should be....

I disagree with this for a number of reasons. I am not posting here in my capacity as an attorney; that is to say, I am not practicing law or giving legal advice. I mention that I am an attorney solely because people might be interested in knowing the basis for my knowledge. It's not much different than mentioning that your brother-in-law had a similiar problem and such-and-such was the outcome. Implying that you are writing in your capacity as a licensed attorney tends create the appearance of giving legal advice. Attorneys who give out legal advice in this forum are foolish, as they open themselves to charges of unauthorized practice of law and may form an attorney-client relationship, which opens them to more liability. An attorney who provides their name and contact information could also be accused of solicitation of business. If this were a forum for providing legal advice, then I would expect the administration to verify identities. As it is, I'm surprised they aren't doing much to discourage the unauthorized practice of law by attorneys and non-attorneys alike.

 

[BelizeBreeze]

Thanks for the supportive words, CO19. I realize I should be ignoring them, but it's like swatting flies and I find it somewhat amusing. It's a shame that people are driving away new members and flooding the board with irrelevant attacks. It's too bad the moderators tolerate it.I disagree with this for a number of reasons. I am not posting here in my capacity as an attorney; that is to say, I am not practicing law or giving legal advice. I mention that I am an attorney solely because people might be interested in knowing the basis for my knowledge. It's not much different than mentioning that your brother-in-law had a similiar problem and such-and-such was the outcome. Implying that you are writing in your capacity as a licensed attorney tends create the appearance of giving legal advice. Attorneys who give out legal advice in this forum are foolish, as they open themselves to charges of unauthorized practice of law and may form an attorney-client relationship, which opens them to more liability. An attorney who provides their name and contact information could also be accused of solicitation of business. If this were a forum for providing legal advice, then I would expect the administration to verify identities. As it is, I'm surprised they aren't doing much to discourage the unauthorized practice of law by attorneys and non-attorneys alike.

MY GAWD!!! This is HILIARIOUS!!!
I never thought it could get any more ignorant.

Congrats, you have sunk to a new low.

 

[laurathelawyer]

And by the way, IF you were an attorney, you would have put the state from which you SAY you are licensed. So, which prison is it?

Why would I "have put" the state in which I am licensed? Says who besides you? My posts here do not constitute the practice of law.

 

[BelizeBreeze]

My posts here do not constitute the practice of law.

FINALLY, some honesty. They don't resemble legal theory either or that you learned anything stealing a glance at the law books in the library. But who's counting.

 

[CO19]

Laura,

When I wrote, "Evidently, posting, or rather "proving", credentials is not a requirement, although I think it should be....", I was meaning in the public profile area where you can list your occupation. By putting "Attorney" , it would at least give members something to refer to about who is behind the "advice".

I'm not even suggesting they have to give their state, but at least some reference of who's who and who's not, which would seem to be an obvious interest on a public "legal" forum.

 

[laurathelawyer]

Actually, as far as I know, anyone claiming or otherwise implying they are an admitted attorney are checked out by the management. I know I was, and since I'm still posting here, I guess I'm really me. I prefer not to "advertise" my credentials since I already get enough unsolicited PMs for advice and certainly don't need more.

And therein lay the problem with Jailhouse Laura who apparently doesn't understand the difference between graduating from law school and being admitted and practicing "real life" law.

Whoa, you're not claiming to be a lawyer are you?? You couldn't have gotten through law school and passed the bar without learning that criminal defendants have a right to appeals.

I am quite aware that graduating from law school + passing the bar exam + passing the character check + being sworn in = licensed to practice law. You're the one who thinks there is some requirement that you join a bar association.

 

[You Are Guilty]

Whoa, you're not claiming to be a lawyer are you?? You couldn't have gotten through law school and passed the bar without learning that criminal defendants have a right to appeals.

I am quite aware that graduating from law school + passing the bar exam + passing the character check + being sworn in = licensed to practice law. You're the one who thinks there is some requirement that you join a bar association.

Well, actually, no, I never said anything about a bar association, check your facts. And as for criminal appeals, I guess they didn't teach Sarcasm 101 in the Guadalajara Law School, huh?

 

[BelizeBreeze]

Well, actually, no, I never said anything about a bar association, check your facts. And as for criminal appeals, I guess they didn't teach Sarcasm 101 in the Guadalajara Law School, huh?

It's the Tijuana school of Appeallate Criminal Defense law to be exact

 

[laurathelawyer]

I am sugesting YAG is a lawyer. Is there something you are not getting here?

There are a lot of things that you are not getting, including the fact that my post was not directed at you.

I'm surprised that YAG is claiming to be a lawyer, yet seems to not know about the existence of criminal appeals, or the fact that bar association membership is not required of all licensed attorneys. Strange, because s/he is answering a lot of questions about New York law, and NY is one of the states where bar association membership is optional.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

If what you're saying is true, he doesn't have a "bar number."

Umm, No that is not what I am saying. What I am stating as fact, is that he is indeed a lawyer out of NewYork.

I believe it was you, who stated the bar was like a club, and you do not have to belong to it!

YAG will have to answer about his bar number.

Keep digging Laurathelawyer.