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stealth2

Under the Radar Member
I just find it amazing that I can say the same thing as others and i am attacked for it while the other individuals are ignored or applauded. It amazes me. I said nothing negative to this OP until she came plowing back regarding the posts and decided to jump on me. No one else mind you but me. Oh and she hasn't been around here before, right? So therefore, why was I picked out? Maybe the Bar and Grill got bored and love seeing if they can get to me. Maybe OP is a troll. Maybe people are trying to get me banned by going off on me and swearing. Between this OP and amyjrn, I find it entertaining quite frankly how some have nothing better than to do than whine about how mean I am being. When I wasn't mean until attacked. Amyjrn posts a rant going off on me "stalking" her because i referred to her past posts and cursing, and emcst "screams" at me for posting it when the one who posted it was the OP. She then basically called me a liar because the post from Amyjrn was no longer showing -- why? Because sweet amy was cursing in her post and it was reported. Oh but whatever. I have had it with hypocrites. I shouldn't judge but certain others will jump at every opportunity to judge me, insult me, and criticize me. They need to look in the mirror when they start saying how horrible I am.

So explain why I got jumped by OP but others who posted pretty much the same thing I did didn't have ANYTHING said to them? Oh because you want to target me? Nice. Your hypocrisy is showing. And it can be seen by many.

OP has issues. Major issues. She is going on about how she makes sure dad knows her thoughts. She complains and gripes about dad not paying for daycare but never answered how dad is supposed to pay or if she has sent him bills or medical information or anything. Instead, she whines and yells and rants and raves. And gets the hypocrites on here to join her in criticizing me. Make her an honorary bar'n'griller. She apparently will fit right in.
It ain't all about you, dear. Really, there is not a one of us who could not stop and think about how and what we post.

And holding grudges is not pretty.
 


Ohiogal

Queen Bee
It ain't all about you, dear. Really, there is not a one of us who could not stop and think about how and what we post.

And holding grudges is not pretty.
Neither is being holier than thou and a hypocrite. Holding grudges? I leave people alone until they jump on me. I don't go looking for them and I don't attack them. The ones attacking me? From the bar'n'grill. I call them like I see them. When some of the bar'n'grillers will quit being hypocrites and quit pretending their crap don't stink, we can live in peace. Note I haven't attacked anyone on here. I have been defending myself from various people.
 
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quincy

Senior Member
Shoot. I am bowing back in. :)

Maybe only a few of you are noticing this, but there has been a concerted effort of late on the part of some "new" posters to disrupt this forum. Attacks are being made on a few select members by a select few users (operating under several different user names) in an attempt to create a rift among the regular members.

I have certainly been a target of these phony posters and Ohiogal has been another.

Trolls, of course, are nothing new to this forum and, therefore, I am a bit surprised that many of the regular members here are not recognizing these posts and these posters for what they are. The posts are purposely designed to elicit certain responses. The original poster knows what to expect when adding "rape" to a post, or when s/he attacks the father or mother of a child, or when s/he appears clearly as an overstepping stepparent, or when s/he sticks certain key words into a post, or when s/he involves so many states (Washington, Utah and Texas are favorites) that no legal answer can be easily given.

As one recent troll poster said, "wallah!" Arguments will break out, the thread will become impossibly long, and then the thread will be locked. Mission accomplished for the troll.

It would be nice to think that all who come to this forum are legitimate posters seeking real advice - and it is nice for all of us to approach each poster that way. But as soon as a "new" poster who has "never been to this forum before" singles out a (generally senior) member or starts attacking the forum as a whole as a useless waste of time? Guess what? That is not the sign of a new normal poster who has never visited this site before. It just isn't.
 
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stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Neither is being holier than thou and a hypocrite. Holding grudges? I leave people alone until they jump on me. I don't go looking for them and I don't attack them. The ones attacking me? From the bar'n'grill. I call them like I see them. When some of the bar'n'grillers will quit being hypocrites and quit pretending their crap don't stink, we can live in peace. Note I haven't attacked anyone on here. I have been defending myself from various people -- ecmst who has taken great delight in showing her true colors, amyjrn, this op, and others.
Honestly, and this is not an attack - you frequently seem really angry. And it's reflected in many of your posts. We all have days - I know I do. And Oh, i know when I have crossed lines (in many areas, not just here). And I try to reflect on how I could do/be better. Is that hypocritical? If so - I'm okay with being a hypocrite.

p.s. those of a different group of whom you speak? All have minds of their own.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Honestly, and this is not an attack - you frequently seem really angry. And it's reflected in many of your posts. We all have days - I know I do. And Oh, i know when I have crossed lines (in many areas, not just here). And I try to reflect on how I could do/be better. Is that hypocritical? If so - I'm okay with being a hypocrite.

p.s. those of a different group of whom you speak? All have minds of their own.
I am not angry at all. If you think I am that is on you. I speak directly and to the point. That doesn't make me angry. That just makes me direct and to the point. Even blunt. But again, not angry. I am not even angry now. I am pointing out the hypocrisy I am seeing and questioning where certain individuals feel they have the right to criticize me but I need to be all sweetness and light. I have actually been in a good mood all day. I just don't care for the attacks. And no where did I say that different group didn't have minds of their own. But the attacks I get -- if not from trolls like this newbie -- are from certain members of that group. I stand by what I said.
 

ecmst12

Senior Member
My true colors? I've never claimed to support nastiness, judgement, or bullying and this isn't the first time I've said so. Are there sometimes posters here who are reprehensible and deserve harshness? Yes. But NOT EVERY ONE. The default should be kindness. OG could take a lesson from quincy who speaks to every poster with respect while being honest and providing good and factual and useful advice, even to posters who are clearly...less than brilliant. Even the ones that are probably trolls. He is what all thr senior members should aim to be like.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Neither is being holier than thou and a hypocrite. Holding grudges? I leave people alone until they jump on me. I don't go looking for them and I don't attack them. The ones attacking me? From the bar'n'grill. I call them like I see them. When some of the bar'n'grillers will quit being hypocrites and quit pretending their crap don't stink, we can live in peace. Note I haven't attacked anyone on here. I have been defending myself from various people -- ecmst who has taken great delight in showing her true colors, amyjrn, this op, and others.
Actually, OG - you do tend to get kinda nasty. But I'm not going to get anywhere, so carry on. But being angry isn't good for ya. ;)
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
My true colors? I've never claimed to support nastiness, judgement, or bullying and this isn't the first time I've said so. Are there sometimes posters here who are reprehensible and deserve harshness? Yes. But NOT EVERY ONE. The default should be kindness. OG could take a lesson from quincy who speaks to every poster with respect while being honest and providing good and factual and useful advice, even to posters who are clearly...less than brilliant. Even the ones that are probably trolls. He is what all thr senior members should aim to be like.
Hahahahahahaha... yet you jumped on me in this thread and I hadn't said anything at the time. You don't support nastiness, judgment or bullying but you will definitely judge or bully or be nasty to me. You jumped me in amyjrn's thread when I quoted what SHE had posted and then you called me a liar because her post had been reported. You are a hypocrite quite frankly. You don't admit when you are wrong and you refuse to acknowledge that you are singling out what I said when I pointed out examples of what others had said and yet from you came nothing. I did nothing to this OP. I actually echoed what others had posted but you singled me out. Then when the OP jumped on me for being rude (yet I was not the one who called her out on defamation or various other things so why was I singled out again by a NEWBIE), you jumped on. Why pray tell is that? Because you decided you needed to take me down a few notches? You needed to feel special? You wanted to feel superior? You showed your true colors quite frankly. I did nothing to this poster until I was attacked and then I only pointed out her issues. But I note your criticism and shrug my shoulders because you quite frankly don't matter to me.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Actually, OG - you do tend to get kinda nasty. But I'm not going to get anywhere, so carry on. But being angry isn't good for ya. ;)
I'm not angry. Not at all. And while I may get nasty at times, wasn't nasty to this op at all until she decided to go on about being a GOOD CATHOLIC and how I was Miss Oblivious and what have you because she is a victim. She refused to answer the questions and wanted to go off on me. I pointed out how her being such a good catholic could be used against her by dad's attorney who could paint her as a religious nut who cries rape because she can't live with having sex and that she could be painted as a whore. Which dad's attorney could do easily.

On Amyjrn's thread, i wasn't nasty either. I pointed out how her story changed regarding the husband's responsibilities towards the house and then amyjrn responded with a rant about how I was a stalker and she was cursing. I quoted her rant and ecmst jumped on ME for daring to respond to being accused of being a stalker. She also called me a liar when I said I QUOTED amy's own post and wasn't posting a private post. Hey but whatever. I don't get any nastier than emcst or the rest who proclaim how sweet and nonjudgmental they are -- hypocrites one and all.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
And all of this because I asked for a bit of Christmas cheer?

Wow. My apologies.

No, that's not snark. I am genuinely sorry I posted.
 

Rwedunyet

Member
Two lawyers were in a nasty verbal argument, neither would admit that the other had a point.

One lawyer finally says to the other "I'll admit that I am wrong, if you will admit that I am right". Graciously, the other lawyer agreed and in a show of good sportsmanship insisted that other lawyer go first.

The first lawyer smiled warmly and said "I am wrong".

The second lawyer smiled triumphantly and said "Yup, your right!"

__________________________________

Group hug? ;) :D
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Said nothing about this thread - so why are you going on about it?

And you come across as angry, hon. You really do.
You are reading it as angry. I am not typing it as such. As for the other points -- because it is part of the larger picture of what is forming the foundation of my opinions.
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
OG is making a very good point, and one that all of us, myself most definitely included, could stand to remember on occasion. Which is that it is quite easy to read a "tone" into a written post that was not intended by the poster him or herself. If I am guilty in this or any other thread of misreading the intended tone of any senior member, that member or members herewith has my apology.
 
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