Can physical force be used?

[Silverplum]

I've been quoted and I believe it too! I tell EVERY ONE OF MY CLIENTS THAT!

Thank God SOMEONE tells their clients that! You're a Superior Being, OG.

 

[AHA]

OP is probably anybody BUT one of the people in question. Why continue to discuss anything with someone who doesn't even know who they are??????

 

[Rushia]

I've been quoted and I believe it too! I tell EVERY ONE OF MY CLIENTS THAT!

I believe you. I wish you were in NY. Don't misunderstand me, it was VERY hard for me to do this at first. It took us about a year to settle down. My ex's wife and my husband were a good influence on both of us. It is just another reason that I love my kids stepmom.

 

[tigger22472]

but also a med that is injected in her bottom if she seizes longer than 5 minutes.

Ok.. and this has had to be done HOW often because I find this HIGHLY unlikely!

And please answer as to how often... also

 

[Moonpie0418]

She's had the injection 9 times in the last 8 months. You can try to tear me apart, and yes, I made a slip. I bet no one here does that. Fact is, she doesn't want to go. He could've talked to me first before dragging it into court. But his mother will not let him speak. As for anyone believing he's not a child molester or whatever, seems him ex-fiancee ran across all of his legal paper work and he admitted everything to her.

Fact is, I don't really care if anyone here believes or cares. I simply asked about the physical force and got a couple decent replies. Boy, instead of this being FreeAdvice, maybe it should be FreeBashing.

I can certainly do without it. I have told her she could go. I offered to buy her shoes. His mother bought those. Out of 8 years do you think he could've spent more than $10 on here. Yeah, he took her to eat on Sunday at Popeyes. Oh boy! What fun!

As far as the frequency of her seizures--last one was 2 days ago. She could several a day or go a few days without. She is on meds 2 times a day for them. As for having an animal in the house, they don't cause her seizures. School is missed due to illness--not because of goofing off. If that's the case, how's she a straight A student?

 

[thetsgtswife]

Even during the ceremony (mine and when ex got married), we paid plenty of attention. I noticed that both of my children were picking their noses. Got pics to prove it and fully intend to show them to future bf/gfs when they get older.

Same here, we have the wedding picture of both of our boys picking thier noses at the same time as they stood right there with us becoming a family.

Children need to be encouraged to be involved and she is probally picking up on your feelings and not wanting to hurt you she is saying what you want her to say. Try encouraging her and telling her that it will be fun to be a part of Dads big day. A little dose of "doing the right thing" can go a long way.

TSGTSWIFE

 

[tigger22472]

She's had the injection 9 times in the last 8 months.

So you are saying that she has had a seizure lasting MORE than 5 minutes at least once a month?

You can try to tear me apart, and yes, I made a slip. I bet no one here does that.

No.. slips are made but few so obvious and pointing exactly out what we'd been trying to say

Fact is, she doesn't want to go. He could've talked to me first before dragging it into court. But his mother will not let him speak.

Not sure I understand that. He's a grown boy and can talk to whomever he wants. Do not give me some sad story about he's under her thumb.. etc.. whatever. Although I will agree that he could have talked to you first, however, you balked at the supervisor the judge ordered so am not sure I would have either knowing that you would have just said no.

As for anyone believing he's not a child molester or whatever, seems him ex-fiancee ran across all of his legal paper work and he admitted everything to her.

huh? Thought this was supposedly against your other child. Wouldn't you have already known this and presumably know the hows and whys before the ex finance' 'found' paperwork? The idea is this would have been your 1# concern and the fact it took you 2 pages before it was mention does not add to your credibility

Fact is, I don't really care if anyone here believes or cares. I simply asked about the physical force and got a couple decent replies. Boy, instead of this being FreeAdvice, maybe it should be FreeBashing.

No.. you came here looking for validation. As I pointed out you ANSWERED the question you asked BEFORE you asked it. If the judge said she could not be forced, then you KNEW he could not force her so why frigging even bother asking if he could drag her out of the car? You are no different than the 50 others that come here every day wanting to hear what they want to hear and be told they were right and the ex was wrong and you and your child are in danger from either the parent or the justice system.


I can certainly do without it. I have told her she could go. I offered to buy her shoes. His mother bought those. Out of 8 years do you think he could've spent more than $10 on here. Yeah, he took her to eat on Sunday at Popeyes. Oh boy! What fun!

Taking her dinner is PERFECTLY fine... especially when he only had two hours. You are way to bitter about this stuff and I am sure THAT was shown in court and why the supervisor was removed and I'm sure it's shown every single day to your child... and please do not say it isn't. The bitterness you are showing here is the type that carried on the sleeve and rules one's life.

As far as the frequency of her seizures--last one was 2 days ago. She could several a day or go a few days without. She is on meds 2 times a day for them. As for having an animal in the house, they don't cause her seizures. School is missed due to illness--not because of goofing off. If that's the case, how's she a straight A student?

I never said she missed school due to goofing off... However, no matter why she missed school the idea was asked to find out why and how often she's missed, indicating how often she's 'ill.' Ok.. you know it's not animals in the house causing the seizures... what is? She's had the CAT scans done and all the bloodwork and tests... What are the doctors saying? and if she takes the regular med 2X a day that would be 12 hours apart... she's only with dad for 9

 

[Rushia]

I never said she missed school due to goofing off... However, no matter why she missed school the idea was asked to find out why and how often she's missed, indicating how often she's 'ill.' Ok.. you know it's not animals in the house causing the seizures... what is? She's had the CAT scans done and all the bloodwork and tests... What are the doctors saying? and if she takes the regular med 2X a day that would be 12 hours apart... she's only with dad for 9

Tig, give it up. She's only going to hear what she wants to. Further, the judge is already seeing the pattern. Just let it continue. I stand by what I said. Days of encouraging child not to go, days of telling her she doesn't have to, "neutral" third party and a camera. I smell a set up. I hope the judge see right thru that too when daddy files contempt because child didn't attend wedding.

 

[Moonpie0418]

Complex partial seizure disorder--staring spells, grand mal and petit mal seizures. Per the doctor "the right side of her brain is thicker than the left."

Yeah, I do worry that's he going to bother her. I knew he had bothered my oldest daughter. Courts wouldn't do anything. It simply validated that he acknowledged that he was guilty to his ex-fiancee.

As for the camera--there's no setup. How would you like to be hauled back into court and accused of not allowing him to talk to his daughter or to persuade her to go with him? I've already been accused of following them during visitation. How would I do that when I have witnesses and receipts to prove otherwise? Even drug my hair dresser into it. Because I was with her.

As for lying....let's see....told everyone that I couldn't drive her to visitation, I had no license. Went around telling that my father had died and we'd closed the family visit. Told everyone I cheated on him and this child was not his. Boy do I wish she wasn't.

Why is it that he can get by with not doing things: court ordered parenting class? no certificate on file within the past 1 year. Mine is there. Judge says or does nothing. But yet, I'm told if I don't do it, I can be fined or jailed. He's been ordered to take a battery of sexual testing. Has he done it? No. I've paid for these tests, but he doesn't show up for the appointments. Work keeps him from going. If he doesn't have anything to hide, then he should take them. Right?

I said from the beginning if she wanted to go, she could. She tells me that she doesn't and she's afraid. And no, I will not let him put his hands on her. This is a 400 lb man pulling a 120 lb child out of a vehicle. Not happening.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

Now I have had it with you rude people! I am going to get Miss Bucs!

PS> You guy's would get a laugh at her posting history. She is a bad, bad girl and has been rude .

Where is the icon showing *Hand covering mouth"?

 

[Moonpie0418]

Now I have had it with you rude people! I am going to get Miss Bucs!

PS> You guy's would get a laugh at her posting history. She is a bad, bad girl and has been rude .
Where is the icon showing *Hand covering mouth"?

what are you talking about?

About being bitter--no I'm angry. You would think that even no court ordered support that he'd at least see some way to make sure she had little extras. Like extra lunch money on her account. He knows her school and all. I'm not saying send $500 a month for her. She doesn't need it.

I'm angry that I'm always the one that is in the wrong in court. I was called everything yesterday but a white woman. And it really gets old, and the judge allowed it.

Forget it. I'm done.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

Good, I am glad you are done. My post was not directed at you. If you could read, you would know that.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

Just out of curiosity, what gives with him being *NOT COURT ORDERED* to pay support?

Why is that?

 

[tigger22472]

Complex partial seizure disorder--staring spells, grand mal and petit mal seizures. Per the doctor "the right side of her brain is thicker than the left."

Ok.. and what is treatment beyond what is being done now since it's not working?

Yeah, I do worry that's he going to bother her. I knew he had bothered my oldest daughter. Courts wouldn't do anything. It simply validated that he acknowledged that he was guilty to his ex-fiancee.

So he was not found to be guilty in the molestation charges, so the impression you gave everyone here that this is why his visitation is limited is not true. Now, what's the real reason

As for the camera--there's no setup. How would you like to be hauled back into court and accused of not allowing him to talk to his daughter or to persuade her to go with him?

You had just better make sure it shows what you want and remember if it doesn't and he knows about it YOU can be ordered to show that. If you cannot find it ... etc.. you will be asked why YOU didn't produce it...

I've already been accused of following them during visitation. How would I do that when I have witnesses and receipts to prove otherwise? Even drug my hair dresser into it. Because I was with her.


I would question this too since you seem to know his every move on visitation considering he 'spends' it playing basketball with his friends and talking to his girlfriend... oh .. they must have all gone to dinner last Sunday too while he ignored the child.

As for lying....let's see....told everyone that I couldn't drive her to visitation, I had no license. Went around telling that my father had died and we'd closed the family visit. Told everyone I cheated on him and this child was not his. Boy do I wish she wasn't.

And none of that is relevant. He's not here stumbling over himself and obviously the judge believes him.. HENCE THE REMOVAL OF THE SUPERVISOR WHEN YOU APPEALED THE ORDER.

Why is it that he can get by with not doing things: court ordered parenting class?
no certificate on file within the past 1 year. Mine is there. Judge says or does nothing.

Has it been brought to his attention? The judge's that is

But yet, I'm told if I don't do it, I can be fined or jailed. He's been ordered to take a battery of sexual testing. Has he done it? No. I've paid for these tests, but he doesn't show up for the appointments. Work keeps him from going. If he doesn't have anything to hide, then he should take them. Right?

If he's ordered to take them then yes he should take them but that is neither for you or I to say. I question as to why YOU had to pay for the tests.. but I'm not sure I'd believe you

I said from the beginning if she wanted to go, she could. She tells me that she doesn't and she's afraid. And no, I will not let him put his hands on her. This is a 400 lb man pulling a 120 lb child out of a vehicle. Not happening.

Well duh she tells you that.

Go away and learn how to be a co-parent. You are better off doing that then being here because at the rate you are going you WILL lose custody!

 

[Rushia]

what are you talking about?

About being bitter--no I'm angry. You would think that even no court ordered support that he'd at least see some way to make sure she had little extras. Like extra lunch money on her account. He knows her school and all. I'm not saying send $500 a month for her. She doesn't need it.

I'm angry that I'm always the one that is in the wrong in court. I was called everything yesterday but a white woman. And it really gets old, and the judge allowed it.

Forget it. I'm done.

You are being bitter. Your job is to encourage your daughter to see her father. I hope to hell your ex/his attorney tears you apart (in court of course) if you tape one second of this exchange.