evolution

[KnownOne]

Actually, the only difference is you will go to hell and they won't. Ain't Christianity fun!

 

[Proserpina]

it's okay. Fundamentalists do it all the time.

burn!!!

 

[KnownOne]

So, how many of us do you think get the joke?

It's pretty funny isn't it all

 

[CdwJava]

Perhaps the day will come when we can cast aside the bible along with the fear it induces and realize we each are god. We are all part of this conscious existence, with the unlimited power to perceive and change our belief system at will through the symbiotic processes of intuition and logic. It's all a cosmic joke - only the ones who take it seriously fail to see just what life has to offer. We each have the capacity to be as good or as bad as we please, to be the best or the worst. The key is to do what makes you happy, which is our only goal at this point in our eternal existence. And our current existence pales in comparison to the greatness of it all.

The goal is to do what makes you happy??? Wow ... how ... amoral.

I would find a life so empty and devoid of meaning to be quite depressing.

The Bible does not induce fear, men induce fear. The Bible preaches love and compassion, and compels us to live a good and decent life.

And each of us are not a "god" ...

 

[CdwJava]

No it was completely sincere.

I was wrong to let my beliefs run away with me like that...

Just because I see more truth in scientific evolution then Christianity's anything, I should not have let it get away with me, dismiss others personal beliefs and make fun of some peoples whole lives. The exact same thing I dislike organized religion for. Quite sorry.

I'm sure I could have structured a more acceptable and thought out response then what came out, and I'm sorry if you guys (yes you Carl) were offended by my snowman remark. we weren't snowmen.

I'll try to keep a thinking cap over my fire red hair in the future.

Now with that, I will apologies again, for offending those of you who were offended, I know.. one true god, maker of heaven and earth ,our father, and the blessed virgin Mary. May they all, if available, bless you guys tonight and forever on. AMEN.

As an apology, this really sucks ... and, it is obviously insincere.

But, it is likely the closest those of us who were offended will ever get so we will have to accept it ... begrudgingly.

I am sorry that you feel so bitter towards faith and feel the need to demean those who profess a belief in something greater than ourselves. I cannot imagine holding that kind of vitriol towards anything or anyone ... such ire must be difficult for you.

As this thread has degenerated far beyond its original intent, I think it is time to say goodbye to it.

God bless you all.

 

[notmyname2]

You don't want the school to 'force' evolutionary theory on the kid while you're busy 'forcing' creationist beliefs on them?

How old is this kid? What are you going to do when they start to think outside the box?

Speaking of evolution, did you know that cases of Down's Syndrome have been noted in both chimps and great apes? Sit there on your tail bone and think about that....
(and speaking of Down's Syndrome, why is God's Intelligent Design flawed? And was he a kid when he designed dinosaurs? - well, seriously, if I was a kid and had God like powers...I'd totally have dinosaurs roaming the Earth before I got down to this human business)
Science, genetics, evolution, it's interesting...

Why would you stop your kid having an educated view of the world?

 

[Humusluvr]

You don't want the school to 'force' evolutionary theory on the kid while you're busy 'forcing' creationist beliefs on them?

How old is this kid? What are you going to do when they start to think outside the box?

Speaking of evolution, did you know that cases of Down's Syndrome have been noted in both chimps and great apes? Sit there on your tail bone and think about that....
(and speaking of Down's Syndrome, why is God's Intelligent Design flawed? And was he a kid when he designed dinosaurs? - well, seriously, if I was a kid and had God like powers...I'd totally have dinosaurs roaming the Earth before I got down to this human business)
Science, genetics, evolution, it's interesting...

Why would you stop your kid having an educated view of the world?

I heard a radio call this morning from a mom who was upset that the radio station was discussing who might be the Antichrist. She said she turned the station, and listened to another bit called, "Guy, girl, or gay?" She said her son was 12, and she didn't want him exposed to the idea of the antichrist. So, you don't think this kiddo will ever ask you any questions, mom? What IS ok to expose him to?

Back to, we only do what makes us happy. WRONG! I wouldn't be raising my son to be a humane, intelligent, compassionate human if I only did what made me happy. Night feedings, Craisin blow-outs, and projectile vomiting do not make me happy. But I love him and raise him right anyways.

The whole point of the thread was that mom wanted to pull kiddo out of science, or demand religion be taught in science, and that is a big no-no. Things change over time, and if mom denies that, she'll be raising a pretty flawed kid anyways.

 

[tranquility]

You don't want the school to 'force' evolutionary theory on the kid while you're busy 'forcing' creationist beliefs on them?

I believe there is broad difference between what a parent indoctrinates a child in and what the state does.

I understand there are certain political beliefs that differ.

Read 1984.

 

[quincy]

I happen to agree with Malcolm Forbes when he said: "The purpose of education is to replace an empty mind with an open one." I feel very sorry for children who are not given the opportunity to explore beyond their parents' closed doors and closed minds.

I also happen to agree with you, notmyname, that dinosaurs might (at times, at any rate) be an improvement over the human race.

And, shoot, what the heck. As long as I seem to be expressing my opinions here, which I very rarely do, I will also say that I find the "moral outrage" expressed in some of these posts as offensive as the post that led to it. But, no apologies requested or required.

 

[Humusluvr]

I happen to agree with Malcolm Forbes when he said: "The purpose of education is to replace an empty mind with an open one." I feel very sorry for children who are not given the opportunity to explore beyond their parents' closed doors and closed minds.

I also happen to agree with you, notmyname, that dinosaurs might (at times, at any rate) be an improvement over the human race.

And, shoot, what the heck. As long as I seem to be expressing my opinions here, which I very rarely do, I will also say that I find the "moral outrage" expressed in some of these posts as offensive as the post that led to it. But, no apologies requested or required.

At least if dinosaurs roamed the earth right now, we could prove "survival of the fittest." I can guarantee you, the stupid people would not survive long enough to reproduce, and then *poof* their gene pool would dry up. I feel that as a very intelligent, resourceful, somewhat sexy woman, I could survive a dinosaur invasion. I giggle to think how many people wouldn't...

Ah, I heart evolution

 

[tranquility]

Anyone who gets to this point, please re-read the thread and see who is the more polite, empathetic and intellectually open. See also which side suffers the most from the prejudice of stereotypes and uses the "Straw Man" argument.

This thread cannot categorize entire attitudes, but who hasn't heard this nearly exact flow of debate before?

 

[mommyof4]

At least if dinosaurs roamed the earth right now, we could prove "survival of the fittest." I can guarantee you, the stupid people would not survive long enough to reproduce, and then *poof* their gene pool would dry up. I feel that as a very intelligent, resourceful, somewhat sexy woman, I could survive a dinosaur invasion. I giggle to think how many people wouldn't...
Ah, I heart evolution

Did you really just call millions of people 'stupid' because they do not share your beliefs or agree with you?

Wow.

I'm really hoping that you do not project that attitude of disdain when dealing with the children entrusted to your care and their families.

 

[Zigner]

Did you really just call millions of people 'stupid' because they do not share your beliefs or agree with you?

No - that's not what she did.

 

[Humusluvr]

Did you really just call millions of people 'stupid' because they do not share your beliefs or agree with you?

Wow.

I'm really hoping that you do not project that attitude of disdain when dealing with the children entrusted to your care and their families.

puh-lease.

I said that people stupid enough to get eaten by a dinosaur cannot reproduce. People stupid enough to get eaten by sharks, bears, or hippos are also included.

People adapted to get here. We have changed from (note: evolved) from the farmers of the 17th century, the aborigines of Australia, and the bushmen in Africa. You can't deny it, and if you do - there's a serious problem.

I, of course, can eloquently describe evolution, adaptation, and natural selection in a scientific manner - but the misnomers continue because of radical malthinking in the religious arena. It's sad that people cannot distinguish between religion and science, and it's something I am passionate about. The Bible is NOT SCIENCE. The Bible is religion. If people get stuck in the mind-frame that religious books play any role in science, then THERE'S my disdain.

 

[Humusluvr]

No - that's not what she did.

Thanks Zig. I did not say that stupid people should die for what they believe. I said that people with genes that do not promote their survival do not last long enough to reproduce.

I will say that people who refuse to take the time to actually understand the science involved in the natural world are missing a great thought process that could legitimately help them in their lives, which I would say is a un-intelligent move.