graffitti x 2, ca

[Alex1176]

i didn't come here to write an english report. is this really hard 2 read??

its not MY illiterate claptrap. whateva claptrap is. its kinda global tlk. but i did hear tht the older ppl get, the slower they learn.

When you are coming to a place YOU need to learn THEIR language. And in this place you write in English and not in some punk "language".

 

[cbg]

You said you didn't understand the laws. I told you the laws.

Obviously you CAN paint on something you do not own or have permission to paint on - but if you do, you are breaking the law.

And your uneducated "2012" jargon is not as universal as you think it is, except among uneducated punks.

 

[Eekamouse]

You don't have money to pay any big fines but you have money to buy spray paint. Pathetic. I hope you come spray in my neighborhood and my next door neighbor catches you at it. I'll applaud him. You are a criminal and will move on to other stupid endeavors as you arrogantly go through your miserable life. Just pathetic.

 

[dj2012]

Obviously you CAN paint on something you do not own or have permission to paint on - but if you do, you are breaking the law.

then u prob should've said something like 'you may not paint anything on it'.

And your uneducated "2012" jargon is not as universal as you think it is, except among uneducated punks.

its pretty universal. its also faster.

You don't have money to pay any big fines but you have money to buy spray paint. Pathetic. I hope you come spray in my neighborhood and my next door neighbor catches you at it. I'll applaud him. You are a criminal and will move on to other stupid endeavors as you arrogantly go through your miserable life. Just pathetic.

spraypaint doesn't cost tht much...it'd take a long time 2 use $6000 worth of spraypaint...
why r u so angry at life? u feel gd telling some 15yo this stuff?

anyway, i'm sure this will disappoint u guys. but i saw the PO and i'm on 6mths informal probation, wth cleaning, whole lots of cleaning (thts ok). don't have to go to court. but i did have to promise tht i'll stop drawing anywhere & only where we get permission w/this guy, & only where i get my jobs. if i'm gd it all gets dismissed. the 594.3 already got dropped. 594.1 e was 1 charge only. & the 594 a/2 - the /2 didn't mean 'damages' it means under $400.
i can be gd, its been a bunch of wks since i got caught, only done 1 since then. the PO said i'm talented & my grades are gd (esp 4 an uneducated punk) and he knows this guy i'm gonna be wking with & he's happy i'm doing tht so he wants me 2 just make better decisons bout where i put my art, but i gotta keep my promise & no more chances. i'd have 2 go 2 court nxt time.
i guess the PO doesn't think i'm a criminal and will move on to other stupid endeavors as i arrogantly go through my miserable life.

u guys give a lot of opinion w/yr legal advice.

 

[Proserpina]

then u prob should've said something like 'you may not paint anything on it'.



its pretty universal. its also faster.



spraypaint doesn't cost tht much...it'd take a long time 2 use $6000 worth of spraypaint...
why r u so angry at life? u feel gd telling some 15yo this stuff?

anyway, i'm sure this will disappoint u guys. but i saw the PO and i'm on 6mths informal probation, wth cleaning, whole lots of cleaning (thts ok). don't have to go to court. but i did have to promise tht i'll stop drawing anywhere & only where we get permission w/this guy, & only where i get my jobs. if i'm gd it all gets dismissed. the 594.3 already got dropped. 594.1 e was 1 charge only. & the 594 a/2 - the /2 didn't mean 'damages' it means under $400.
i can be gd, its been a bunch of wks since i got caught, only done 1 since then. the PO said i'm talented & my grades are gd (esp 4 an uneducated punk) and he knows this guy i'm gonna be wking with & he's happy i'm doing tht so he wants me 2 just make better decisons bout where i put my art, but i gotta keep my promise & no more chances. i'd have 2 go 2 court nxt time.
i guess the PO doesn't think i'm a criminal and will move on to other stupid endeavors as i arrogantly go through my miserable life.

u guys give a lot of opinion w/yr legal advice.

Yes, we're all completely convinced that you're telling the truth.

 

[dj2012]

Yes, we're all completely convinced that you're telling the truth.

ok proserpina. tht doesn't make much diff in the world does it?

 

[stealth2]

So who's buying the spray paint for you? I thought you have to be 18 in CA to purchase it.

California Pen Code § 594.1. Etching Creams and Aerosol Containers of Paint

(a) (1) It shall be unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation, except a parent or legal guardian, to sell or give or in any way furnish to another person, who is in fact under the age of 18 years, any aerosol container of paint that is capable of defacing property without first obtaining bona fide evidence of majority and identity.

(2) For purpose of this section, “etching cream” means any caustic cream, gel, liquid, or solution capable, by means of chemical action, of defacing, damaging, or destroying hard surfaces in a manner similar to acid.

(3) For purposes of this subdivision, “bona fide evidence of majority and identity” is any document evidencing the age and identity of an individual which has been issued by a federal, state, or local governmental entity, and includes, but is not limited to, a motor vehicle operator’s license, a registration certificate issued under the federal Selective Service Act, or an identification card issued to a member of the armed forces.

(4) This subdivision shall not apply to the furnishing or six ounces or less of etching cream or an aerosol container of paint to a minor for the minor’s use or possession under the supervision of the minor’s parent, guardian, instructor, or employer.

(5) Etching cream, aerosol containers of paint, or related substances may be furnished for use in school-related activities that are part of the instructional program when used under controlled and supervised situations within the classroom or on the site of a supervised project. These containers may not leave the supervised site and shall be inventoried by the instructor. This use shall comply with Section 32060 of the Education Code regarding the safe use of toxic art supplies in schools.

(b) It shall be unlawful for any person under the age of 18 years to purchase an aerosol container of paint that is capable of defacing property.

(c) Every retailer selling or offering for sale in this state aerosol containers of paint capable of defacing property shall post in a conspicuous place a sign in letters at least three-eighths of an inch high stating: "Any person who maliciously defaces real or personal property with paint is guilty of vandalism which is punishable by a fine, imprisonment, or both."

(d) It is unlawful for any person to carry on his or her person and in plain view to the public an aerosol container of paint while in any posted public facility, park, playground, swimming pool, beach, or recreational area, other than a highway, street, alley, or way, unless he or she has first received valid authorization from the governmental entity which has jurisdiction over the public area. As used in this subdivision, "posted" means a sign placed in a reasonable location or locations stating it is a misdemeanor to possess a spray can of paint in that public facility, park, playground, swimming pool, beach, or recreational area without valid authorization.

(e) (1) It is unlawful for any person under the age of 18 years to possess an aerosol container of paint for the purpose of defacing property while on any public highway, street, alley, or way, or other public place, regardless of whether that person is or is not in any automobile, vehicle, or other conveyance.

(2) As a condition of probation for any violation of this subdivision, the court may order a defendant convicted of a violation of this subdivision to perform community service as follows:

(A) For a first conviction under this subdivision, community service not to exceed 100 hours over a period not to exceed 90 days during a time other than his or her hours of school attendance or employment.

(B) If the person has a prior conviction under this subdivision, community service not to exceed 200 hours over a period of 180 days during a time other than his or her hours of school attendance or employment.

(C) If the person has two prior convictions under this subdivision, community service not to exceed 300 hours over a period not to exceed 240 days during a time other than his or her hours of school attendance or employment.

(f) Violation of any provision of this section is a misdemeanor. Upon conviction of any person under this section, the court may, in addition to any other punishment imposed, if the jurisdiction has adopted a graffiti abatement program as defined in subdivision (f) of Section 594, order the defendant, and his or her parents or guardians if the defendant is a minor, to keep the damaged property or another specified property in the community free of graffiti, as follows:

(1) For a first conviction under this section, for 90 days.

(2) If the defendant has a prior conviction under this section, for 180 days.

(3) If the defendant has two or more prior convictions under this section, for 240 days.
Participation of a parent or guardian is not required under this subdivision if the court deems this participation to be detrimental to the defendant, or if the parent or guardian is a single parent who must care for young children.

(g) The court may order any person ordered to perform community service or graffiti removal pursuant to subdivision (e) or (f) to undergo counseling.

 

[Cali408nia]

So who's buying the spray paint for you? I thought you have to be 18 in CA to purchase it.

That is the law but it doesn't mean it's not easy to get around. Some cities have an ordinance that any store that sells spray paint must keep it locked up. Others don't. I've worked at many auto parts stores where paint wasn't locked up and cashiers were too lazy to care. There's also hardware stores that don't keep paint locked up. When all you have to get by is a lazy cashier making minimum wage who doesn't care, it's rather easy.

 

[stealth2]

That is the law but it doesn't mean it's not easy to get around. Some cities have an ordinance that any store that sells spray paint must keep it locked up. Others don't. I've worked at many auto parts stores where paint wasn't locked up and cashiers were too lazy to care. There's also hardware stores that don't keep paint locked up. When all you have to get by is a lazy cashier making minimum wage who doesn't care, it's rather easy.

I was rather hoping out OP would see fit to respond.

 

[pac72]

if op had done his art on my property. the police may find him painted smurf blue when he wakes up

 

[dj2012]

So who's buying the spray paint for you? I thought you have to be 18 in CA to purchase it.

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its easy to get.
like cigs, alcohol & drugs are easy 2 get if u want them.
sometimes i buy myself -u no what places 2 go, & sometimes other ppl have them, give me them.