Half of Uninsured Medical Bills

[Ljnsy]

It MAY but 3 years is a LONG time when it comes to medical bills. Usually they do something like CP having 30-60 days to get it to the NCP who has like 30-60 days to pay it. So thats like 4 months TOPS, and so 3 years may seem really excessive and out of spite to even a reasonable judge. Just so you know...

I didn't send 3 years, I sent 1 year and that only came to $150 for his half.

Also, it says nothing about a time limit in the CO.
My question was is my Attorney correct regarding being able to bill for the 3 years?

 

[Ohiogal]

I didn't send 3 years, I sent 1 year and that only came to $150 for his half.

Also, it says nothing about a time limit in the CO.
My question was is my Attorney correct regarding being able to bill for the 3 years?

You can and he can refuse to pay them because you waited so long. If I were him I would use the defense of laches. Can he get detailed billings from three years ago stating what each dollar was and finding out what these bills amount to?
You are playing petty. You are playing games. You are acting spiteful. And a judge will be upset about it.
You need to love your son more than you hate your ex. I have seen a lot of vile things you have written about your ex. And this boils down to how you want to get him back. Revenge is NEVER a reason.

 

[Ljnsy]

You can and he can refuse to pay them because you waited so long. If I were him I would use the defense of laches. Can he get detailed billings from three years ago stating what each dollar was and finding out what these bills amount to?
You are playing petty. You are playing games. You are acting spiteful. And a judge will be upset about it.
You need to love your son more than you hate your ex. I have seen a lot of vile things you have written about your ex. And this boils down to how you want to get him back. Revenge is NEVER a reason.

He can get detailed billings from the Doctors office and the hospital. Like I said I didn't get sent 3 years, I sent 1 year and that was mainly just to prove a point. I don't even care if I don't get THAT money.

The VILE things I have written about my ex are true. I don't care about revenge. I just want them to leave me alone so I can live in peace and I want my ex to make my son once again feel like he is an important part of his life. PERIOD!

 

[Silverplum]

I can see you are not ready for my wisdom, grasshopper.

That's ok. You will be, later. Try not to waste too much time on anger.

 

[Ljnsy]

I can see you are not ready for my wisdom, grasshopper.

That's ok. You will be, later. Try not to waste too much time on anger.

I do understand what everyone is saying about the anger issue. But it seems like every time I DO get rid of the anger, he, she or they drop another bomb on me. It's hard to deal with. I just don't understand why they can't just live their lives and let me live mine.

 

[mom6stepmom2]

I dont think thats an abnormal amt of time, either. You wanna hear abnormal- my husband's daughter has been at least 14 times and she's 2.5. FTR, yes, her mother neglects her medical care until its THAT urgent.

ANYWAY, OP...if you dont want him to pay 1/2, thats up to you but the order says you two are to split it and if he wants 1/2, then you need to pay up.

Also- you can try and give him the bills, but I'd bet a judge would want to know why you waited so long, and upon hearing your reason (that he suddenly asked you to pay 1/2) may dismiss them as a "too little, too late" sort of thing.

I know all state are different, but I took my ex to court for contempt August 2005. He had refused to pay his half of out of pocket medical for the previous 4 years. My attorney told me to gather everything and submit it to him for use in court. I had stopped submitting the co-pays to him about 2 years prior to hearing because he would not reimberse the co-pays from 4 years ago. The judge awarded all co-pays for all 4 years. This included mental health (counselor) co-pays.

If I were you I would gather all bills and submit them to your ex. Tell him that when half the co-pays for mental health visits egual or surpass the 1/2 co-pays from previous medical visits to submit them to you so you can reimberse him.

 

[Ljnsy]

I know all state are different, but I took my ex to court for contempt August 2005. He had refused to pay his half of out of pocket medical for the previous 4 years. My attorney told me to gather everything and submit it to him for use in court. I had stopped submitting the co-pays to him about 2 years prior to hearing because he would not reimberse the co-pays from 4 years ago. The judge awarded all co-pays for all 4 years. This included mental health (counselor) co-pays.

If I were you I would gather all bills and submit them to your ex. Tell him that when half the co-pays for mental health visits egual or surpass the 1/2 co-pays from previous medical visits to submit them to you so you can reimberse him.

That's sort of what I was trying to do. When I called him, I was insinuating to him that he can either not demand payment for the psych co-pays OR I'll send him a bill for what he owes me.
I can't really do a contempt thing because I never submitted them to him in the first place but my thinking is, if HE takes me to court for contempt for not paying the judge may be sympathetic toward me BECAUSE OF the fact that I have never asked him to pay for anything.

I think some of the people here are under the impression that I plan on taking him to court to MAKE him pay me all of the back co-pays but that is not my intent. My intent is to simply make it clear to him that it's not right for him to demand money from me when I have never asked him for a dime.

 

[weenor]

That's sort of what I was trying to do. When I called him, I was insinuating to him that he can either not demand payment for the psych co-pays OR I'll send him a bill for what he owes me.
I can't really do a contempt thing because I never submitted them to him in the first place but my thinking is, if HE takes me to court for contempt for not paying the judge may be sympathetic toward me BECAUSE OF the fact that I have never asked him to pay for anything.

No the judge will just think that your an idiot for not submitting the expenses before and will also think that you've been playing games..

I think some of the people here are under the impression that I plan on taking him to court to MAKE him pay me all of the back co-pays but that is not my intent. My intent is to simply make it clear to him that it's not right for him to demand money from me when I have never asked him for a dime.

Life doesn't work that way. You have to assert your rights at the time they accrue, not later when you want some leverage.

 

[Ljnsy]

Life doesn't work that way. You have to assert your rights at the time they accrue, not later when you want some leverage.

"No the judge will just think that your an idiot for not submitting the expenses before and will also think that you've been playing games.. "

Playing games in WHAT way?? I have been doing nothing but being nice and I'm getting the crap for it. How is that MY playing games? I'm not the one who's playing games here.

I'm just holding on to the theory "What goes around comes around" because if that's the way it works they will get theirs eventually.

 

[MrsK]

I know all state are different, but I took my ex to court for contempt August 2005. He had refused to pay his half of out of pocket medical for the previous 4 years. My attorney told me to gather everything and submit it to him for use in court. I had stopped submitting the co-pays to him about 2 years prior to hearing because he would not reimberse the co-pays from 4 years ago. The judge awarded all co-pays for all 4 years. This included mental health (counselor) co-pays.

If I were you I would gather all bills and submit them to your ex. Tell him that when half the co-pays for mental health visits egual or surpass the 1/2 co-pays from previous medical visits to submit them to you so you can reimberse him.

Except she didnt submit the past 3 years to him, ever. She just recently, because she is angry, submitted one year. Someone CANT PAY for a bill they DONT HAVE.

I think a judge will see through this 100%.

 

[MrsK]

I can't really do a contempt thing because I never submitted them to him in the first place but my thinking is, if HE takes me to court for contempt for not paying the judge may be sympathetic toward me BECAUSE OF the fact that I have never asked him to pay for anything.
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I seriously, SERIOUSLY would not count on this logic. Most likely the judge will be angry with you for trying to be spiteful.

 

[MrsK]

"No the judge will just think that your an idiot for not submitting the expenses before and will also think that you've been playing games.. "

Playing games in WHAT way?? I have been doing nothing but being nice and I'm getting the crap for it. How is that MY playing games? I'm not the one who's playing games here.

I'm just holding on to the theory "What goes around comes around" because if that's the way it works they will get theirs eventually.

The playing games part is this: You dont want to ask him for $$. Fine, you dont have to. Everyone is OK with that. Dad DOES want to you pay for 1/2- HIS RIGHT. You dont like that, you decide to be spiteful & make him pay because YOU are having to pay and you dont like it. That = playing games.

 

[Ljnsy]

The playing games part is this: You dont want to ask him for $$. Fine, you dont have to. Everyone is OK with that. Dad DOES want to you pay for 1/2- HIS RIGHT. You dont like that, you decide to be spiteful & make him pay because YOU are having to pay and you dont like it. That = playing games.

NO...DAD is the one being spiteful by demanding that I pay for these particular co-pays because HE is mad at ME because he has FINALLY figured out that he CAN NOT control ME and that I am going to fight for what I believe is RIGHT for our son! You people don't get it.

I could give a rat's ass about the money. I want peace in my life! Those people have been "playing games" with me for OVER 3 years now while I sat here and took it because I AM NOT a game player. I've been pushed too far and WILL be pushing back.

In order to avoid contempt charges I have sent a check paying MY half directly to the PSYCHOLOGIST for the last 2 visits and the next 3 that are scheduled. AND he WILL be getting a bill from me for what ever I can get out of him. If he pays it he pays it...if he doesn't he doesn't. I'm not so petty or stupid as waste MY time and the courts time bringing contempt charges on him but you'd better believe that he would do it to me in a heartbeat just to push my buttons! You have NO idea what I've been going through for the last 3+ years with these people! NO idea at all! Harrassment, harrassment and MORE harrasment CONSTANTLY so you can't sit there and tell me the I am the one who is playing games here. * I * am the one who is attemting to get the games to STOP!!

GET IT???????

 

[GrowUp!]

My ex has known about EVERY doctor visit and ER visit because I inform him of them either before or after they occur. He knows there is a co-pay and he knows what is in the court order.

That's NOT the point and you're making excuses. It doesn't matter that "he knows." You should be sending him the bills in a timely manner. Period.

His counseling sessions are every 3 weeks with a $15 co-pay each time. The psychologist told me that she didn't think this would take too long.

Then send him the bill -- or his portion -- each time. Not 36 months later.

One more thing, I'm not one to play dirty. I don't like rocking the boat and try to get along with everyone...but I have been harrassed and insulted, and messed with by my ex and his GF for about 3 and 1/2 years now and have had enough! THEY are the ones who are playing dirty to the point of lying in the court room about me. I have always tried to be extremely reasonable with EVERYTHING but when you're pushed and pushed and pushed for 3+ years CONSTANTLY...eventually, it's time to push back...and HARD.

Like I said...the money isn't the issue here.

Oh BULLSH*T money isn't the issue here. Look at the bolded part. So this is CLEARLY your revenge. Since you are being pissed off, you've decided to try to get 3 years of bills paid. Take a look at my alias. Fits you perfectly.

 

[GrowUp!]

He can get detailed billings from the Doctors office and the hospital. Like I said I didn't get sent 3 years, I sent 1 year and that was mainly just to prove a point. I don't even care if I don't get THAT money.

Uggh. So you consider waiting ONE YEAR sending bills in a timely manner? Gotta get me the duct tape...my head is going to explode from this.

The VILE things I have written about my ex are true. I don't care about revenge.

I'll say it again: BULLSH*T!

I just want them to leave me alone so I can live in peace and I want my ex to make my son once again feel like he is an important part of his life. PERIOD!

It's your ex's choice whether he wants to be an "important part" of the child's life. And as far as them leaving you alone, you're stuck until the child's 18.