Half of Uninsured Medical Bills

[GrowUp!]

I know all state are different, but I took my ex to court for contempt August 2005. He had refused to pay his half of out of pocket medical for the previous 4 years. My attorney told me to gather everything and submit it to him for use in court. I had stopped submitting the co-pays to him about 2 years prior to hearing because he would not reimberse the co-pays from 4 years ago. The judge awarded all co-pays for all 4 years. This included mental health (counselor) co-pays.

If I were you I would gather all bills and submit them to your ex. Tell him that when half the co-pays for mental health visits egual or surpass the 1/2 co-pays from previous medical visits to submit them to you so you can reimberse him.

Umm...I would highly suggest re-reading the issue. Your situation has absolutely NOTHING to do with the OP's situation.

 

[ceara19]

NO...DAD is the one being spiteful by demanding that I pay for these particular co-pays because HE is mad at ME because he has FINALLY figured out that he CAN NOT control ME and that I am going to fight for what I believe is RIGHT for our son! You people don't get it.

I could give a rat's ass about the money. I want peace in my life! Those people have been "playing games" with me for OVER 3 years now while I sat here and took it because I AM NOT a game player. I've been pushed too far and WILL be pushing back.

In order to avoid contempt charges I have sent a check paying MY half directly to the PSYCHOLOGIST for the last 2 visits and the next 3 that are scheduled. AND he WILL be getting a bill from me for what ever I can get out of him. If he pays it he pays it...if he doesn't he doesn't. I'm not so petty or stupid as waste MY time and the courts time bringing contempt charges on him but you'd better believe that he would do it to me in a heartbeat just to push my buttons! You have NO idea what I've been going through for the last 3+ years with these people! NO idea at all! Harrassment, harrassment and MORE harrasment CONSTANTLY so you can't sit there and tell me the I am the one who is playing games here. * I * am the one who is attemting to get the games to STOP!!

GET IT???????

If you walk into court and tell the judge that you did not send dad the bills for reimbursement because you were trying to be "nice" about it, but that because of recent events, you now want him to start paying his half as was ordered be the court, the judge is probably going to tell you that you have every right to do that from this point on. But I doubt that you have ANY chance of getting reimbursed for the bills that YOU failed to submit within the required time frame.

 

[Ljnsy]

That's NOT the point and you're making excuses. It doesn't matter that "he knows." You should be sending him the bills in a timely manner. Period.


Then send him the bill -- or his portion -- each time. Not 36 months later.


Oh BULLSH*T money isn't the issue here. Look at the bolded part. So this is CLEARLY your revenge. Since you are being pissed off, you've decided to try to get 3 years of bills paid. Take a look at my alias. Fits you perfectly.

Most of you see in peoples posts only what you want to see. Only what you can pick apart. Since I have been given completely different advise from my Attorney than from MOST of you...I think I'll go with him. He know my situations, has seen my ex show his ass in court first hand and realizes EXACTLY what I have been going through and what he is putting my son through.

Grow up..Tell me if money WERE the issue, why would I NOT have sent him those bills when I paid them? I have NEVER in my life cared about money. All I have ever needed was enough to live on and a little extra for fun things but that's it.

You seem to have not read the part where I said that I really don't care if he pays me the money or not...and if he doesn't, I will NOT try to do anything about it. Did ya read the WHOLE post or was that too much for ya???

Reading the posts in this thread and a LOT of other people's threads has made me feel sorry for a lot of you people. You insult people, and put them down, make ridiculous assumptions about people. You hide behind your computers and attempt to make it look like you're somehow important. Maybe you ARE important and you just have such low self esteem that you don't realize it. People who have no self-confidence are the ones who tend to put other people down. They are the ones who tend to ridicule others. IRL they are called bullies. In real life, a bully wouldn't mess with me and never has. Well, at least not more than once.

Funny how quickly people will back off once put in their place, but you can't really do that here because the bullies are hiding from you, behind their computer.

I don't know...maybe I should have at least had my first cup of coffee this morning before I started typing but I think I'm pretty sure I'm right. Maybe you all should go get some counseling of your own to see if you can build up that self-esteem. Get a life, go out into the real world and see what happens if you talk to people face to face like you do on these boards. Don't any of you have any friends? I doubt it...seems like you are all so bitter that the only thing you can do is sit in front of your computers and make fun of people who ACTUALLY have a life and REAL problems that they so naively asked for advice for on this board.

Don't get me wrong, there are some people on here who have given me very good advise and I'm not really talking about this particular thread. But the rest of you ruin it by getting your jollies putting others down just because you "think" that makes you look good.

I pity a lot of you.


As for me...I'm going to go get ready to go to work and live my life the best way I can and as peacefully as I can as I always have.

 

[Ljnsy]

If you walk into court and tell the judge that you did not send dad the bills for reimbursement because you were trying to be "nice" about it, but that because of recent events, you now want him to start paying his half as was ordered be the court, the judge is probably going to tell you that you have every right to do that from this point on. But I doubt that you have ANY chance of getting reimbursed for the bills that YOU failed to submit within the required time frame.

Perhaps you missed the part where I said that I have paid MY half of the psych bills IN ADVANCE and that I have no intention of going to court regarding the ex's bills. Maybe you should read things a bit more thouroughly BEFORE you decide to comment on them.

Edited to add: There is NO time-frame in the CO. My Attorney said I have the right to bill him for the past 3 years regardless of whether I have billed him for them in the past. I chose to bill for 1 year only. and AGAIN only to prove a point. I don't care if I get the money or not.

 

[ceara19]

Perhaps you missed the part where I said that I have paid MY half of the psych bills IN ADVANCE and that I have no intention of going to court regarding the ex's bills. Maybe you should read things a bit more thouroughly BEFORE you decide to comment on them.

Edited to add: There is NO time-frame in the CO. My Attorney said I have the right to bill him for the past 3 years regardless of whether I have billed him for them in the past. I chose to bill for 1 year only. and AGAIN only to prove a point. I don't care if I get the money or not.

Gee, defensive much? If this is the type of attitude you get when someone very simply points out the very obvious flaws in the reasons you are trying to use to justify not sending dad the bills (in a very non-judgmental way, I might add), it makes it pretty clear to everyone why it is your child needs to see a therapist.

 

[Ljnsy]

Gee, defensive much? If this is the type of attitude you get when someone very simply points out the very obvious flaws in the reasons you are trying to use to justify not sending dad the bills (in a very non-judgmental way, I might add), it makes it pretty clear to everyone why it is your child needs to see a therapist.

I didn't have a problem with your advice. It was sound advice and I appreciate it. What I did have a problem with was the fact that you failed to acknowledge the portion of my post where I wrote:

"In order to avoid contempt charges I have sent a check paying MY half directly to the PSYCHOLOGIST for the last 2 visits and the next 3 that are scheduled. AND he WILL be getting a bill from me for what ever I can get out of him. If he pays it he pays it...if he doesn't he doesn't. I'm not so petty or stupid as waste MY time and the courts time bringing contempt charges on him but you'd better believe that he would do it to me in a heartbeat just to push my buttons!"

So what anyone says about what the judge will think or say is a moot point as of now because this matter is not being brought in front of the judge.

I have to say that I DO feel the need to be defensive about your last coment regarding why my son needs therapy. You don't know.

 

[GrowUp!]

Most of you see in peoples posts only what you want to see. Only what you can pick apart. Since I have been given completely different advise from my Attorney than from MOST of you...I think I'll go with him. He know my situations, has seen my ex show his ass in court first hand and realizes EXACTLY what I have been going through and what he is putting my son through.

And the key word your attorney gave you was ADVICE. NOT what a Judge would order (that is IF you were taking it to court). It's a 50-50 shot.

Grow up..Tell me if money WERE the issue, why would I NOT have sent him those bills when I paid them? I have NEVER in my life cared about money. All I have ever needed was enough to live on and a little extra for fun things but that's it.

Because, as you stated in a previous response, they've been pushing your buttons. So it seems as being vindictive. And there are ALOT of CP's out there who let the bills mount for several years, then expect the other parent to pay them. If you need a little extra for "fun things", then I suggest getting somethign called 'supplemental employment.'

You seem to have not read the part where I said that I really don't care if he pays me the money or not...and if he doesn't, I will NOT try to do anything about it. Did ya read the WHOLE post or was that too much for ya???

Yep, biotch, I did read it. And you also stated about being vindictive.

Reading the posts in this thread and a LOT of other people's threads has made me feel sorry for a lot of you people. You insult people, and put them down, make ridiculous assumptions about people. You hide behind your computers and attempt to make it look like you're somehow important. Maybe you ARE important and you just have such low self esteem that you don't realize it. People who have no self-confidence are the ones who tend to put other people down. They are the ones who tend to ridicule others. IRL they are called bullies. In real life, a bully wouldn't mess with me and never has. Well, at least not more than once.

Blah blah blah....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....wake me when you're done babbling.

Funny how quickly people will back off once put in their place, but you can't really do that here because the bullies are hiding from you, behind their computer.

Damn...you're STILL babbling???

I don't know...maybe I should have at least had my first cup of coffee this morning before I started typing but I think I'm pretty sure I'm right. Maybe you all should go get some counseling of your own to see if you can build up that self-esteem. Get a life, go out into the real world and see what happens if you talk to people face to face like you do on these boards. Don't any of you have any friends? I doubt it...seems like you are all so bitter that the only thing you can do is sit in front of your computers and make fun of people who ACTUALLY have a life and REAL problems that they so naively asked for advice for on this board.

Oh good Lord, stifle it already Edith.

Don't get me wrong, there are some people on here who have given me very good advise and I'm not really talking about this particular thread. But the rest of you ruin it by getting your jollies putting others down just because you "think" that makes you look good.

Let me correct you: I look DAMN good -- not "just" good!

I pity a lot of you.

Thanks, but I don't need any.

 

[GrowUp!]

Perhaps you missed the part where I said that I have paid MY half of the psych bills IN ADVANCE and that I have no intention of going to court regarding the ex's bills. Maybe you should read things a bit more thouroughly BEFORE you decide to comment on them.

And you are going to have to pay the OTHER HALF, too!

Edited to add: There is NO time-frame in the CO.

It doesn't matter there is no time frame. I believe it's presumed that the parent will be responsible and send them in a timely manner. As we see on here quite often, that is not the case and they sit on them for a long time and expect a nice check. So everything needs to be spelled out.

my Attorney said I have the right to bill him for the past 3 years regardless of whether I have billed him for them in the past. I chose to bill for 1 year only. and AGAIN only to prove a point. I don't care if I get the money or not.

That's right. You do have the "right" to bill him. And he has the right to tell you and your attorney to take those bills and shove em. I know that would be my answer. What point are you trying to prove? That you're going to continue to be vindictive if he pisses you off. Ooooh what a threat.

 

[Ljnsy]

And the key word your attorney gave you was ADVICE. NOT what a Judge would order (that is IF you were taking it to court). It's a 50-50 shot.

Thank you for your opinion on this. It was actually helpful.

Because, as you stated in a previous response, they've been pushing your buttons. So it seems as being vindictive. And there are ALOT of CP's out there who let the bills mount for several years, then expect the other parent to pay them. If you need a little extra for "fun things", then I suggest getting somethign called 'supplemental employment.'


Yep, biotch, I did read it. And you also stated about being vindictive.

Oh goodness, sinking so low to go as far as name calling...why don't YOU grow up???


Blah blah blah....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....wake me when you're done babbling.

You know damn well what I am saying is true.

Damn...you're STILL babbling???




Oh good Lord, stifle it already Edith.

Actually, Thank you. I like that name since it belongs to my mother.


Let me correct you: I look DAMN good -- not "just" good!

At this moment...NO...no you don't.


Thanks, but I don't need any.

Apparently you do.

 

[Ljnsy]

And you are going to have to pay the OTHER HALF, too!

I don't have to pay the OTHER half. That is HIS responsibility.


It doesn't matter there is no time frame. I believe it's presumed that the parent will be responsible and send them in a timely manner. As we see on here quite often, that is not the case and they sit on them for a long time and expect a nice check. So everything needs to be spelled out.

Like I said, I don't care if I get a check or not.

That's right. You do have the "right" to bill him. And he has the right to tell you and your attorney to take those bills and shove em. I know that would be my answer. What point are you trying to prove? That you're going to continue to be vindictive if he pisses you off. Ooooh what a threat.

No, I am trying to get him to realize how unreasonable he, THEY are. Will it work...probably not. But there is nothing else that I can legally do outside of taking his GF to court for continual harrassment which I won't waste my time or money doing.

Another point I would like to make is that if I am so in the wrong here why is it that EVERYONE else, including his ENTIRE family think that I am in the right and THEY are not? They are the only ones supporting each other on in regards to their constant harrassment and dragging me to court for things that could have easily been worked out outside of the courtroom.

 

[MrsK]

NO...DAD is the one being spiteful by demanding that I pay for these particular co-pays because HE is mad at ME because he has FINALLY figured out that he CAN NOT control ME and that I am going to fight for what I believe is RIGHT for our son! You people don't get it.

I could give a rat's ass about the money. I want peace in my life! Those people have been "playing games" with me for OVER 3 years now while I sat here and took it because I AM NOT a game player. I've been pushed too far and WILL be pushing back.

In order to avoid contempt charges I have sent a check paying MY half directly to the PSYCHOLOGIST for the last 2 visits and the next 3 that are scheduled. AND he WILL be getting a bill from me for what ever I can get out of him. If he pays it he pays it...if he doesn't he doesn't. I'm not so petty or stupid as waste MY time and the courts time bringing contempt charges on him but you'd better believe that he would do it to me in a heartbeat just to push my buttons! You have NO idea what I've been going through for the last 3+ years with these people! NO idea at all! Harrassment, harrassment and MORE harrasment CONSTANTLY so you can't sit there and tell me the I am the one who is playing games here. * I * am the one who is attemting to get the games to STOP!!

GET IT???????

No, YOU dont get it. DAD is following the COURT ORDER. YOU are not. Open your eyes woman.

 

[MrsK]

I pity a lot of you.

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Dont worry, we pity you, too. Its hard not to pity people with their heads so far up their asses.

Mostly, though, we pity your child.

 

[MrsK]

Gee, defensive much? If this is the type of attitude you get when someone very simply points out the very obvious flaws in the reasons you are trying to use to justify not sending dad the bills (in a very non-judgmental way, I might add), it makes it pretty clear to everyone why it is your child needs to see a therapist.

Exactly. Your poor child.

See, IF this goes to court, the judge WILL put a time frame on bills to be sent to NCP b/c the judge wont want to deal with Mom (you, OP) trying this type of crap again, the whole "I didnt send bills but HE wants money so now HE has to pay up 1 yr, 2 yrs, 3 yrs later". Then, OP, you will not have an excuse.

 

[MrsK]

No, I am trying to get him to realize how unreasonable he, THEY are. Will it work...probably not. But there is nothing else that I can legally do outside of taking his GF to court for continual harrassment which I won't waste my time or money doing.

Another point I would like to make is that if I am so in the wrong here why is it that EVERYONE else, including his ENTIRE family think that I am in the right and THEY are not? They are the only ones supporting each other on in regards to their constant harrassment and dragging me to court for things that could have easily been worked out outside of the courtroom.

OP- You are trying your hardest to get him to see he is unreasonable when YOU yourself are being incredibly unreasonable.

Again-

CO says dad reimburses 1/2.
Dad cant reimburse 1/2 if he doesnt get bills.
Dad takes kid to psych, Dad FOLLOWS THE COURT ORDER and asks you to pay 1/2.
You dont want to, you're mad.
Instead of just paying, admitting its YOUR fault you didnt get 1/2 of YOUR bills and then billing him his 1/2 for FUTURE bills, you get all in a huff about him FOLLOWING THE COURT ORDER.
You bill him for a year of OLD BILLS.

You seriously cant see where you are being unreasonable???? REALLY??????

 

[Ljnsy]

No, YOU dont get it. DAD is following the COURT ORDER. YOU are not. Open your eyes woman.

My sending a check for my share of the psych co-pays is not following the court order? Please explain.