Hare Krishna's are being bullied by a "street person"

[violas]

Perhaps you can recruit the guy and you can sing and dance to his guitar accompaniment.

Yes. We have tried to recruit him but no luck.

 

[violas]

Why don't you have your weekly gathering in either your or one of the other members homes/yards? How about having the gathering in a park under a gazebo?

We like to be in the downtown area because there are more people here.

 

[zddoodah]

If this guy should become "physically violent" the next time, am I legally allowed to hit him in the head with my cane as self-defense?

Possibly. Depends on the specific facts.

The specific facts are that we have a legal right to be on that corner. That "street bully" does not own that street. He makes his money by playing his guitar for tax-free donations. I am the taxpayer who pays taxes. Therefore, I and the other taxpayers "own that corner"

No. None of those facts are relevant to whether you are "legally allowed to hit him . . . with [your] cane." The specific facts that would be relevant to that legal issue are those relating to the "physical[] violen[ce]" that may or may not occur. Generally speaking, if he puts you in reasonable apprehension of an imminent physical touching, you likely would be justified in the use of non-lethal force in self-defense.

Also, the money that a busker receives is not "tax-free," and I doubt you have any personal knowledge of what this person's tax returns look like.

 

[quincy]

Yes. We have tried to recruit him but no luck.

That’s too bad. That could have been a nice way to resolve the battle over the street corner.

 

[violas]

No. None of those facts are relevant to whether you are "legally allowed to hit him . . . with [your] cane." The specific facts that would be relevant to that legal issue are those relating to the "physical[] violen[ce]" that may or may not occur. Generally speaking, if he puts you in reasonable apprehension of an imminent physical touching, you likely would be justified in the use of non-lethal force in self-defense.

Also, the money that a busker receives is not "tax-free," and I doubt you have any personal knowledge of what this person's tax returns look like.
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[violas]

So you believe he is reporting his donations every year to the IRS and is doing his tax returns each year?

 

[stealth2]

So you believe he is reporting his donations every year to the IRS and is doing his tax returns each year?

How do you know he's not?

 

[Just Blue]

So you believe he is reporting his donations every year to the IRS and is doing his tax returns each year?

The guy is living on the streets and lucky if he eats one meal per day. Are you so uncharitable that you would begrudge him the corner, and shelter that corner offers, because you want more passers by to see/hear you sing/chant?

 

[quincy]

So you believe he is reporting his donations every year to the IRS and is doing his tax returns each year?

He might not have to file any return. It depends on his income. There is a good chance that his street-corner guitar playing (if that is his sole source of income) does not earn for him $12000+.

 

[zddoodah]

So you believe he is reporting his donations every year to the IRS and is doing his tax returns each year?

Like you, I have no knowledge regarding this person's tax situation. Unlike you, I have not formed a belief regarding that matter because I have no factual basis to form an informed belief. Of course, this person's tax situation isn't the slightest bit relevant to the legal issue you raised, so I'm at a loss to understand why you brought it up.

 

[quincy]

Like you, I have no knowledge regarding this person's tax situation. Unlike you, I have not formed a belief regarding that matter because I have no factual basis to form an informed belief. Of course, this person's tax situation isn't the slightest bit relevant to the legal issue you raised, so I'm at a loss to understand why you brought it up.

Violas mentioned how her taxes helped pay for the street corner. That’s where the taxes come in.

 

[stealth2]

Violas mentioned how her taxes helped pay for the street corner. That’s where the taxes come in.

It was as amusing the second time around!

 

[Ohiogal]

I am not looking forward to any violence. I am just asserting my right "to not be bullied"

You don't seem all that tied to your faith as you are acting in a way that is antithetical to it. Try more yoga. You also are showing you are a hypocrite. How long have you been practicing?

 

[stealth2]

You don't seem all that tied to your faith as you are acting in a way that is antithetical to it. Try more yoga. You also are showing you are a hypocrite. How long have you been practicing?

Hence Post #20.

I'm thinking that corner is "good" because there is more potential foot traffic, and the "street person" is aggravated as they're driving away those who might give him money.

 

[Ohiogal]

I wonder what Violas had for breakfast, lunch and dinner today.