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justalayman

Senior Member
Withholding and/or weilding access to sexual intimacy as an emotional weapon is pretty standard fare in emotionally abusive relationships and is textbook emotional abuse.

That's not some radical out of left field idea that turns anyone into a stepford wife or permits spousal rape. Please.
It’s also a right of every person in the US to not engage in sex with another person. If the guy wasn’t happy with the lack of intimate relations, he was free to sow his oats elsewhere.
 


Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
It’s also a right of every person in the US to not engage in sex with another person. If the guy wasn’t happy with the lack of intimate relations, he was free to sow his oats elsewhere.
Not that it matters...but ESPECIALLY since they're not even married.
 

justalayman

Senior Member
NEXT TIME ON MORAL COURT
Moral court? Having the right to refuse to engage in sex with another person has nothing;t to do with morals. It is purely a legal issue.



Are you suggesting morally the girl has to give it up? Why? Because of the car? Maybe she cleaned the house rather that having sex with the guy.

Bottom line: she is neither morally nor legally obligated to have sex with a person she is not married to. Only then does the possibility of a moral obligation come into play but still not a legal one.
 

xylene

Senior Member
Interestingly, you are the one who seems to be posting on a moral basis.
You denounced their unmarried cohabitation. Is there some other take away from that than "No wonder he got taken, it was an unchristian shack up"
 

xylene

Senior Member
Maybe she cleaned the house rather that having sex with the guy.
OR maybe it was actually an emotionally abusive relationship.

Does it upset you that withholding sex can be emotionally abusive? And that it is common in emotionally abusive relationships? And that simple truth doesn't violate anyone's body intergrity or obligate anyone to have sex. And to be clear, the emotional abuse wouldn't be fixed by having sex.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
You denounced their unmarried cohabitation. Is there some other take away from that than "No wonder he got taken, it was an unchristian shack up"
Where???

ETA: I think you misunderstood my earlier post. I was simply pointing out that, even if there was some sort of legal requirement for a spouse to have sex with the other party to the marriage (there's not), it doesn't matter, since they're not married in the first place.

I don't give a flying fig if they shack up
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
OR maybe it was actually an emotionally abusive relationship.

Does it upset you that withholding sex can be emotionally abusive? And that it is common in emotionally abusive relationships? And that simple truth doesn't violate anyone's body intergrity or obligate anyone to have sex. And to be clear, the emotional abuse wouldn't be fixed by having sex.
The takeaway from this is that you believe that it's possible to abuse somebody by refusing to have sex with them, which means that, in order to NOT be abusive, one MUST submit to sex, even if it's against their will. In other words, in your view, one cannot say no to sex.
 

justalayman

Senior Member
OR maybe it was actually an emotionally abusive relationship.

Does it upset you that withholding sex can be emotionally abusive? And that it is common in emotionally abusive relationships? And that simple truth doesn't violate anyone's body intergrity or obligate anyone to have sex. And to be clear, the emotional abuse wouldn't be fixed by having sex.
It doesn’t upset me at all because the guy had a right to leave at any time. If he stayed, it,was his choice to accept the conditions.
 

xylene

Senior Member
"I'm not going to have sex with you because you're a worthless piece of trash."

According to senior members, that's not emotional abuse, and any discussion of how and why it would be means you like rape.
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
"I'm not going to have sex with you because you're a worthless piece of trash."

According to senior members, that's not emotional abuse, and any discussion of how and why it would be means you like rape.
It "might" be emotionally abusive...(not the sex part)...But the friend had the option of saying OK..Buh-bye.

I wonder if the friend is aware his good buddy is posting his VERY PERSONAL matters on the internet?
 

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